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jcarlsoniv
United States27922 Posts
On June 20 2012 10:51 iCanada wrote: I wish they nerfed the damage on his bombs instead of the slow. He woulda been such a cool champion. Now he just feels like all damage with a bit of Poke. Ehhhhhh idk, the slow was a little ridiculous. The combo of damage/slow was definitely over the top, but I know where you're coming from. | ||
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iCanada
Canada10660 Posts
On June 20 2012 10:53 jcarlsoniv wrote: Ehhhhhh idk, the slow was a little ridiculous. The combo of damage/slow was definitely over the top, but I know where you're coming from. I do agree, the slow was a touch obnoxious. I think it would be cool if they kept the damage on his mines the same in every level and just increased the slow portion on it would be cool too. He kinda like Xerath, imo. Really stale gameplay and no guaranteed damage. | ||
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jcarlsoniv
United States27922 Posts
On June 20 2012 10:57 iCanada wrote: I do agree, the slow was a touch obnoxious. I think it would be cool if they kept the damage on his mines the same in every level and just increased the slow portion on it would be cool too. He kinda like Xerath, imo. Really stale gameplay and no guaranteed damage. I think he's FAR more fun than Xerath. Xerath's damage isn't really that difficult to land. That's what makes Ziggs fun - you need to know how to land his shit to do well with him. I've seen some really terror Ziggs just tear me apart. Now I want to figure him out... | ||
Chexx
Korea (South)11232 Posts
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Vlanitak
Norway3045 Posts
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Ryuu314
United States12679 Posts
On June 20 2012 11:03 jcarlsoniv wrote: I think he's FAR more fun than Xerath. Xerath's damage isn't really that difficult to land. That's what makes Ziggs fun - you need to know how to land his shit to do well with him. I've seen some really terror Ziggs just tear me apart. Now I want to figure him out... It's highly likely that I just suck with him, but I have massive mana problems on Ziggs regardless if it's early/mid/late game. So much of his damage is off of his Q bombs and the mana costs on that is pretty darn high. | ||
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gtrsrs
United States9109 Posts
regi used him on release, when he was OP, but at the slightest nerf everyone dropped him he's pretty straightforward - build damage, hit skillshots, win the game when we see games shifting to hyper-lategame-snoozefests as triggered by froggen's anivia, ziggs will see a greater role, because 4 high-damage aoe nukes make ziggs impossible to push on | ||
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jcarlsoniv
United States27922 Posts
On June 20 2012 11:39 gtrsrs wrote: ziggs is pretty good, just no one wants to take the time to play him regi used him on release, when he was OP, but at the slightest nerf everyone dropped him he's pretty straightforward - build damage, hit skillshots, win the game when we see games shifting to hyper-lategame-snoozefests as triggered by froggen's anivia, ziggs will see a greater role, because 4 high-damage aoe nukes make ziggs impossible to push on Except, just what Ryuu just said, his mana costs are pretty prohibitive. As much as I hate having to get Tear on champs, it might be a good buy on him. Maybe something like Boots - Tear - Dcap - AA staff. Idk, as I said, I'll have to play around with him a little bit. | ||
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gtrsrs
United States9109 Posts
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Ryuu314
United States12679 Posts
Blue buff definitely helps, but with how aggressively and how well competitive teams are about controlling and contesting buffs, a champion that's that reliant on blue is severely hindered. | ||
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RoieTRS
United States2569 Posts
On June 20 2012 10:09 Dark_Chill wrote: When I play malph I usually max Q first and E second, without taking a point in W. Q I find makes more sense to max, even if it costs more mana. Firstly, it's ranged, its effects will be much more important in a gank, it helps you gain more ms. Also, a bit off topic, but I was reading through gameplay guides from lolpro, and I find a lot of the guides to be pretty helpful and very informative. As a general question, why doesn't Riot have any ties to any of these sites which really get in depth about how to play? Some links to see on the client or something like that, could be really helpful for the new and mid-ranged players. its a shame... lolpro was pretty ambitious, to have a guide for every champion for every viable role competitively. It is missing a lot though. I think they are missing top lane warwick, top lane panth, kayle as a carry or bruiser or jungler (she can do all pretty damn well), etc. by the time they get these things out, everything will already be out of date probably. | ||
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Chexx
Korea (South)11232 Posts
On June 20 2012 11:32 Vlanitak wrote: fow.kr Chexx thanks sadly there is no normal rating was interested if its the same like ranked ^^ Need to play more ranked | ||
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Craton
United States17250 Posts
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obesechicken13
United States10467 Posts
On June 20 2012 12:02 RoieTRS wrote: its a shame... lolpro was pretty ambitious, to have a guide for every champion for every viable role competitively. It is missing a lot though. I think they are missing top lane warwick, top lane panth, kayle as a carry or bruiser or jungler (she can do all pretty damn well), etc. by the time they get these things out, everything will already be out of date probably. If you understand enough about the game, you shouldn't need guides. I know kayle's cooldown on her E, how much damage she does (experience), what her skills do, and her weaknesses in lane. From that I know how to deal with her as any champion (and yes, some champs will just have to tower hug, try to get the lane to push, and wait for ganks). I know her clear speed and how little she relies on buffs, so I also know when she can gank. I know her common item builds and where most of her damage comes from, so I know how to counter a kayle that I meet, as well as what the advantages and disadvantages of building certain items on her are. Studying guides is like studying past exams. You memorize the steps, but don't understand how to solve the problem. | ||
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GreenManalishi
Canada834 Posts
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PH
United States6173 Posts
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
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Slaughter
United States20254 Posts
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DURRHURRDERP
Canada929 Posts
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Slaughter
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