EPT[Patch 1.0.0.141: Draven] General Discussion - Page 119
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Bwaaaa
Australia969 Posts
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TwoToneTerran
United States8841 Posts
If you've got them in a situation where you're sure to hit them with your dash (Like if you''re waiting in a brush for them and they come up) Then you DFG Q->R->W->E which should kill anyone unless they're super tanky or your super underfarmed. | ||
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Xevious
United States2086 Posts
On June 20 2012 17:30 Parnage wrote: Why must they change the art on champions. I actually like the splash for most of the champions they are changing. Trist, Renek, Xin, Cait, Amumu, Teemo all had better splash art then the new ones they are putting it. *shrug* It's not a huge deal but it's sad to see the out with the old. You can change it back pretty easily if you can get a hold of the original art. I actually have all of the chinese art now so it's no change for me. Use this thread to figure out how to swap the files and just do it for the old art after the patch comes out. | ||
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iCanada
Canada10660 Posts
QoL changes make people play champions. People playing Veigar = bad. That stun so obnoxious... the fact that he can follow it up with oneshotting you if he has DFG is even worse. Both together and it pretty easy to understand why people no likes him. | ||
Carnivorous Sheep
Baa?21243 Posts
On June 20 2012 17:53 iCanada wrote: Veigar is like the most anti-fun thing in LoL man. QoL changes make people play champions. People playing Veigar = bad. That stun so obnoxious... the fact that he can follow it up with oneshotting you if he has DFG is even worse. Both together and it pretty easy to understand why people no likes him. lol? my fucking face when people complain about veigar now i;'ve seen everything might as well remove every champ that can kill u and/or cc you lol...oh wait thats every champ | ||
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JackDino
Gabon6219 Posts
On June 20 2012 17:55 Carnivorous Sheep wrote: lol? my fucking face when people complain about veigar now i;'ve seen everything might as well remove every champ that can kill u and/or cc you lol...oh wait thats every champ I'm not sure if you understand but veigar is actually really good as it is. | ||
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schmutttt
Australia3856 Posts
On June 20 2012 17:53 iCanada wrote: Veigar is like the most anti-fun thing in LoL man. QoL changes make people play champions. People playing Veigar = bad. That stun so obnoxious... the fact that he can follow it up with oneshotting you if he has DFG is even worse. Both together and it pretty easy to understand why people no likes him. Really? I'd much rather watch a good Veigar than someone play Ahri/Morg/Mord (All the boring mids). | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
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Dandel Ion
Austria17960 Posts
On June 20 2012 18:29 Alaric wrote: Do the dashes stop at the rim of the ring or do you go through and get stunned on arrival once the change will be up? You get stunned when you dash through it, but the movements complete (Trist jump, Shen E, etc.) Teleports like flash/Ez E don't stun | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
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Dandel Ion
Austria17960 Posts
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TwoToneTerran
United States8841 Posts
On June 20 2012 17:55 Carnivorous Sheep wrote: lol? my fucking face when people complain about veigar now i;'ve seen everything might as well remove every champ that can kill u and/or cc you lol...oh wait thats every champ To be fair, Veigar's stun is probably the best non-ult CC in the game. It definitely did not need a buff. It's just the rest of his skills are pure damage with no utility. | ||
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Carnivorous Sheep
Baa?21243 Posts
On June 20 2012 18:50 wei2coolman wrote: The main problem I have with champs like veigar/annie, full burst champs. is that often there's no "counter" to it, there's no way to out play that burst in a 1v1, which makes it lame. It's called a QSS. | ||
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Zaphod Beeblebrox
Denmark697 Posts
He has no real escape (most Veigars use the stun offensively). He has one of the slowest movement speeds in the game. He has one of the lowest EHP in the game. He has no way of killing you in a direct fight if you have a BV/qss (and huge troubles against anything with any other mr items). His cooldowns are too long to get more than a single combo in a normal fight (possibly 2 or even 3 q's). He has the biggest burst potential of any champ true, but if his burst fails to kill (as in you bought any amount of mr) he is so squishy that he dies in 2 seconds. Still, he can be really strong in the right hands - provided that he survives laning. | ||
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JackDino
Gabon6219 Posts
QSS doesn't cancel dfg/q/ult, zhonya does negate it though;p | ||
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Carnivorous Sheep
Baa?21243 Posts
On June 20 2012 19:05 JackDino wrote: QSS doesn't cancel dfg/q/ult, zhonya does negate it though;p have you considered not building dumb items with zero hp and resists and stacking ap if dfg q ult is enough to kill you on their own... It astounds me how people can complain about one of the most easily countered champions in the game, who has subpar laning and horrid matchups against all the currently dominate/common mids as well as a plethora of weaknesses, including but not limited to those outlined a couple posts above this... | ||
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Zhiroo
Kosovo2724 Posts
On June 20 2012 17:53 iCanada wrote: Veigar is like the most anti-fun thing in LoL man. QoL changes make people play champions. People playing Veigar = bad. That stun so obnoxious... the fact that he can follow it up with oneshotting you if he has DFG is even worse. Both together and it pretty easy to understand why people no likes him. Nothing is more anti-fun than Yorick. | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
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Shiv.
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Lmui
Canada6213 Posts
With leblanc, during laning, I try to open up a kill with E . Hitting E means you can full combo with the slow and E>Q>R>W+ignite+2nd tick E + autos is pretty much a guaranteed kill. I personally find hitting an E after dashing on top of someone a difficult task so I use it before the dash in most cases. As a support, warding depends completely on the enemy composition and which side you're on. Against notorious level 2 jungles like alistar, it's a good idea to ward tribush at ~2:10. On blue side, I generally don't ward the river unless I'm pushed well past mid-river or there's a chance of the other team dragoning. The two wards I keep up are tribush and sometimes the far lane bush. On purple side, one ward in the river to the right of the tribush or dragon+tribush are generally enough to stay safe. | ||
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