Holy shit just saw those swain buffs.
Who ever was complaining about Darius being OP,you just got a yourself a hard counter with swain.
He was already really strong top against some champs but that range buff on lazer bird is fucking insane.I have no idea what they were thinking with this one.Wowowowow
Actually I know why they did it,that new swain skin didn't sell so well lolololol

Alaric

France45622 Posts

June 01 2012 12:30 GMT

#1628

Yeah, and now it'll sell, but won't be used because Swain will be permabanned. Seeing this, Riot will nerf him a bit, but same thing than with Morgana, and to some extent Rammus, despite the nerfs they'll still remain permabanned. It's easier to get in that list than to get out.
So I've been training him for nothing. >_>

TheKefka

Croatia11752 Posts

June 01 2012 13:00 GMT

#1629

I don't think he will be permabaned.There are still champs that wreck swain and these buffs won't turn him into the mid lane monster that he was.He's just going to straight up counter anything without a decent gap closer that can actually get to him and stick.Like I said for instance Darius I don't see how he can do anything against swain after these buffs go live.
I don't know anyone who still bans rammus lol,rammus is trash tier jungle right now imo.People ban morgana here and there because her black shield is annoying as fuck and she's probably the hardest champ to gank during lane phase.

ArmyOfPlatypi

United States188 Posts

June 01 2012 13:03 GMT

#1630

Just encountered a bug where after my team surrendered, we were given a victory and the other team was given a loss. Anyone ever have a similar situation?

jacosajh

2919 Posts

June 01 2012 13:04 GMT

#1631

On June 01 2012 04:05 gtrsrs wrote:
in dreamhack teams would ban 3 champs against CLG
hotshot would dominate with a fourth
i recall there was a cho/galio/nid ban against him
he played jax and destroyed

hotshot is definitely not an awful player
it's just that he's an awful jungler

Because he would get non-stop heal (or Sona ult hitting all 5 enemy) from Elementz, Zil ulted by Jiji, huge DPS from Chauster from a distance, and Saint's Udyr non-stop stunning people.

And he is of course, Jax. All he had to do was hit W and Q people.

HSGG is definitely not bad by any means. You don't get to that ELO or win a lot of tournaments by being carried every time. But he has definitely not continued to improve like many other players have in the last year. If anything, he has gotten too comfortable.

To say HSGG was carried in all previous tournaments is foolish. But I definitely wouldn't disagree with that notion for the last few months. I can't help but question the intelligence of anyone who doesn't believe HSGG was the weakest link on CLG recently.

TheYango

United States47024 Posts

June 01 2012 13:10 GMT

#1632

Hotshot is a fine solo player. I don't think anyone is in a position to question that.

The problem is that IMO he has a horrible and toxic attitude for competitive teamplay. This put him most at odds with Saint (who tends to be very frank about his assessment of people), but even with Saint gone, it's still not good for CLG.

I think Hotshot is the poster child of a solo pubstar that's not suited for competitive teamplay. It's a distinction that's made heavily by Chinese DotA teams when scouting fresh pub players to fill a roster, but it's not something people have really emphasized in forming LoL teams.

Alaric

France45622 Posts

June 01 2012 13:20 GMT

#1633

On June 01 2012 22:00 TheKefka wrote:
I don't think he will be permabaned.There are still champs that wreck swain and these buffs won't turn him into the mid lane monster that he was.He's just going to straight up counter anything without a decent gap closer that can actually get to him and stick.Like I said for instance Darius I don't see how he can do anything against swain after these buffs go live.
I don't know anyone who still bans rammus lol,rammus is trash tier jungle right now imo.People ban morgana here and there because her black shield is annoying as fuck and she's probably the hardest champ to gank during lane phase.

Where I am people ban Morg because "she's OP", "her ult", stuff like that, and not because "she's hard to gank" or "her shield is supa stronk".^^' Well, it's also the land where you get like 80cs by 20 minutes, and when you pick Morg you still only get 80cs, but this time without trying, instead of actually try and get 140 (yeah, they aren't that good really).
About Rammus what I meant is that even after his nerfs, it took a while for him to stop being banned. I specifically started to practice Swain again because of my usual picks top and the pool of champs they are countere by/having difficulties again (hint: Swain is fun, my 3rd champ, and incidentally beats all of the aforementioned pool), so obviously the possibility of him getting banned regularly annoys me to no end.

It's like retrieving an old toy of yours and then being told you can't play with it because the newer version is going to hit the market for Christmas, and you're in mid December.

Mondieu

Romania803 Posts

June 01 2012 13:25 GMT

#1634

Don't worry about Swain nerfs, if you get a bit of MR swain suddenly becomes easy mode.

h3r1n6

Iceland2039 Posts

June 01 2012 13:41 GMT

#1635

Bye bye ap kog, hi swain. For me the ult cooldown is the biggest deal since that always bothered me that I can't pulse the ult enough.

I doubt swain will go to permaban status. And if he does, I might get to play Ahri again since everyone bans her where I am.

Sermokala

United States13926 Posts

June 01 2012 15:35 GMT

#1636

I built a taimat on akali. I feel oddly dirty and I don't know if it synergizes with kayle's e. Does anyone know the range on the splash damage too?

Spell vamp procs on magic dammage and lifesteal procs on physical damage right? or are there special circumstances for that.

hasuprotoss

United States4612 Posts

June 01 2012 15:44 GMT

#1637

On June 02 2012 00:35 Sermokala wrote:
I built a taimat on akali. I feel oddly dirty and I don't know if it synergizes with kayle's e. Does anyone know the range on the splash damage too?

Spell vamp procs on magic dammage and lifesteal procs on physical damage right? or are there special circumstances for that.

Spell vamp procs on ALL spell damage (physical or magical or true) while lifesteal only procs on autoattacks and skills which have on hit effects (like Ezreal Q, Gangplank Q, etc.)

Alaric

France45622 Posts

June 01 2012 15:47 GMT

#1638

Spellvamp procs on spell damage, whatever its nature (physical, magic or true). Lifesteal procs off of autoattacks. I don't know if enhancers like sheen proc, Nasus' Q or Irelia's Bladesurge do trigger lifesteal tho.

Seuss

United States10536 Posts

June 01 2012 15:49 GMT

#1639

On June 02 2012 00:47 Alaric wrote:
Spellvamp procs on spell damage, whatever its nature (physical, magic or true). Lifesteal procs off of autoattacks. I don't know if enhancers like sheen proc, Nasus' Q or Irelia's Bladesurge do trigger lifesteal tho.

They do.