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Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-05 00:46:43
June 05 2012 00:43 GMT
#2161
On June 05 2012 09:40 UniversalSnip wrote:
How are you going to headbutt him and auto him? That is part of headbutt, it knocks you out of auto range. If you just randomly bump him with it he's going to hit you with Q, pop the shield and you just used mana to take free damage. It doesn't amke much sense.

You could Headbutt+auto the same way you could Headbutt+pulverize. This works now too so you can go try it if you don't believe me. Even if you weren't good at doing that, Sion has to walk into the creep wave to pop his shield; u just sit there, wait for him to approach the creep, auto him then immediately headbutt him.

Even if you were couldn't/wouldn't try to pop his shield, you could just wait for Sion to clear the wave, tank the creep and aggro it around you then insta-clear it with your pulverize. Your E sustain more than makes up for w/e damage you take from creep.
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
June 05 2012 00:47 GMT
#2162
lol I didn't know that -_-. I suppose he would lose to phase 2 cow than. Still, he was just the most popular of a lot of good pushers at the time. Post-remake gets the ability to wave clear so much faster then pre.
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
Praetorial
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States4241 Posts
June 05 2012 00:55 GMT
#2163
THE DYRUS IS STREAMING

THE DYRUS IS STREAMING
FOR GREAT JUSTICE! Bans for the ban gods!
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
June 05 2012 00:57 GMT
#2164
On June 05 2012 09:47 UniversalSnip wrote:
lol I didn't know that -_-. I suppose he would lose to phase 2 cow than. Still, he was just the most popular of a lot of good pushers at the time. Post-remake gets the ability to wave clear so much faster then pre.

I'd be lying if I said his post-remake wave clear was worse (larger aoe on Q + trample), but to say Alistar's wave clear pre-remake was bad or insufficient is just wrong. The Q 1.0 ratio makes up for the trample 0.2 to minions ratio considering his Q was nerfed to 0.8 ratio with the remake. He could kill minions just as fast if not faster since trample is damage over time. The biggest problem was that pre-remake you had to use Q to clear, which could be taxing on your mana if you couldn't force your lane opponent back to relieve pressure on your lane. But even then, I can't think of many pushers in that era that Alistar couldn't deal with other than maybe Corki/Sivir.
Abenson
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada4122 Posts
June 05 2012 01:02 GMT
#2165
On June 05 2012 09:40 UniversalSnip wrote:
How are you going to headbutt him and auto him? That is part of headbutt, it knocks you out of auto range. If you just randomly bump him with it he's going to hit you with Q, pop the shield and you just used mana to take free damage. It doesn't amke much sense.


Apparenlty it's possible to W-auto-Q.
Really hard to pull off I assume
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
June 05 2012 01:05 GMT
#2166
I dunno, I don't share your opinion on that. I think his post remake spells are just absurdly better for clearing minions, and making that the case was one of the big goals in changing his spells in the first place. I guess we'll just have to disagree on that though.
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
June 05 2012 01:07 GMT
#2167
New Free Champ Rotation:

Cho
GP
Heimer
Janna
Kassadin
Galio
Urgot
Vayne
Wukong
Darius

I really wish I knew how to play Wukong top, cuz he's extremely fun. I'm just bad at bruisers.
Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-05 01:09:30
June 05 2012 01:08 GMT
#2168
On June 05 2012 10:07 jcarlsoniv wrote:
I really wish I knew how to play Wukong top, cuz he's extremely fun. I'm just bad at bruisers.

i thought i was decent top player till i bought lee LOL, cant play him for shit
Khul Sadukar
Profile Joined August 2009
Australia1735 Posts
June 05 2012 01:16 GMT
#2169
OMG free Darius week..

Dodge all day long
I don't want to be part everything. I want to be something. - Weapon X
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
June 05 2012 01:16 GMT
#2170
Wu straightforward to play till you start trying the mindgames with Decoy.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
June 05 2012 01:28 GMT
#2171
you don't even need decoy mindgames, he's just a strong strong champ
they make him a lot more fun though, that is true
but totally unnecessary against most opponents
in fact against bad opponents, they will never yomi and never bite on your fakes so every time you try to fake they'll kill you anyway loooool
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
June 05 2012 01:29 GMT
#2172
"never try to bluff an idiot"
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
Parnage
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States7414 Posts
June 05 2012 01:39 GMT
#2173
Oh goodness, that League blog by Carmac is being brought up by State of the Game. Waiting for that thread..

I'd like to play Wukong more he seems really fun. I just never get to play top that often anymore..
-orb- Fan. Live the Nal_rA dream. || Yordles are cool.
Bladeorade
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1898 Posts
June 05 2012 01:41 GMT
#2174
Well I got banned for the first time. Saw this coming. A week off from LoL guess I'm going to see if I can still hang in Masters after not having played since September
0123456789
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3216 Posts
June 05 2012 01:51 GMT
#2175
Something is really fishy about my computer, my internet, or Riot. Ping is out of this world. At least I got an upgrade to my tv and internet for free after I called.
Cloud9157
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2968 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-05 02:13:41
June 05 2012 02:06 GMT
#2176
On June 05 2012 10:07 jcarlsoniv wrote:
New Free Champ Rotation:

Cho
GP
Heimer
Janna
Kassadin
Galio
Urgot
Vayne
Wukong
Darius

I really wish I knew how to play Wukong top, cuz he's extremely fun. I'm just bad at bruisers.


Hes so dumb, lol.

Build health+AD damage on him for the most part. Build a little tanky, cause a free chain vest+negatron isn't quite enough for him to be a good tanky-dps.

I love how hard people rage about not banning Kassadin at low ELO.

"z0mg no one beats him and hes so op!"

Trying to tell them that a handful of mids can crush him is pointless. =\
"Are you absolutely sure that armor only affects the health portion of a protoss army??? That doesn't sound right to me. source?" -Some idiot
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
June 05 2012 02:17 GMT
#2177
On June 05 2012 03:46 BlackMagister wrote:
Does Yorick ghouls dying reduce the cd of Alistar's heal?

they should id think
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
Chiharu Harukaze
Profile Joined September 2011
12112 Posts
June 05 2012 03:05 GMT
#2178
PATCH NOTES~

How you like dem Swain and Ez buffs?

Or dat Amumu nerf QQ
It's like, "Is the Federation's Mobile Suit some kind of monster?"
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