EPT[Patch 1.0.0.140: Darius] General Discussion - Page 18
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ShloobeR
Korea (South)3809 Posts
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Chexx
Korea (South)11232 Posts
On May 24 2012 23:25 Vlanitak wrote: got to love the korean server, most of the day consists of: Yankee go home or them shouting shibal at my Afrodinger. Life is good. only one time I got insulted on the korean server. | ||
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Sermokala
United States13828 Posts
the ult can be hard money but its hard to get into the fight and get the combo rolling. god I wish I had a blink on him. | ||
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Tawen
United States2 Posts
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Seuss
United States10536 Posts
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XaCez
Sweden6991 Posts
http://www.twitch.tv/qu1ksh0t http://binarybeast.com/xLoL1205083 | ||
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iCanada
Canada10660 Posts
On May 25 2012 00:37 Tawen wrote: Darius work if build like Trynda? only atk and no defense? In the three or four games I've played him I've been going like double BT, GA, Randuins, Mercs, Mallet. End up like 200/200 resists and a solid 3k HP too, and still do 900 damage with your ult. They basically have to focus you or you kill their whole team... if they focus you you win if your AD carry doesn't suck dick. | ||
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MooMooMugi
United States10531 Posts
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Vlanitak
Norway3045 Posts
On May 25 2012 01:24 Xacez wrote: Dreamhack Qualifiers are live. http://www.twitch.tv/qu1ksh0t http://binarybeast.com/xLoL1205083 Go Fnatic! first tourny game without Mellisan I believe, going to be interesting to watch, but I trust them to have picked up a good replacement. Oh and maybe Shushei wont feed this time huehue | ||
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h3r1n6
Iceland2039 Posts
On May 25 2012 00:37 Tawen wrote: Darius work if build like Trynda? only atk and no defense? Does Darius have a skill that makes him unkillable for a while as well as a really good dash? You need some defense. I feel like Frozen Heart is a really good item on him. I wonder why no one builds it, but people seem to like randuins on him. The armor and aura helps him survive (not as much as randuins, but FH also has more armor), the cdr is really really good with his w and good for q and e too. It also gives him some mana so he can use more spells in a teamfight (500 mana = 5 ults = penta  ). Plus Glacial Shroud on its own is already pretty good for a relatively cheap price.Additionaly you probably wanna get something like mercs and maw to cover some MR. (you might want more depending on the team, but you should be in a decent place with that). Maybe needs some health Frozen Mallet or Trinity Force if you have the gold (trinity proc nice with w i guess). Or just suck it up and go atmogs. GA should be good too since he will probably always be a threat. Blood thirster seems like the best idea for a major defensive item considering his ad scaling and his lack of sustain. Last Whisper might be a decent idea, with his e and the mastery from offense you get 1-(0.75*0.6*0.9)=0.595 -> almost 60% armor pen. Ghost blad seems feasible too. Some of the stats are a bit meh, especially the flat armor pen, but the active is really good and goes well with what Darius does. Plus brutalizer really good for midgame anyway, when you don't have many points in e and don't have a last whisper. So I guess you'll get like a brutalizer or a hexdrinker or maybe phage and then go into getting a thirster. Final build for me would look like this: Mercs/Tabi Thirster Maw Last Whisper Frozen Heart GA or Ghost Blade That's my view on it. | ||
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iCanada
Canada10660 Posts
On May 25 2012 01:51 h3r1n6 wrote: Does Darius have a skill that makes him unkillable for a while as well as a really good dash? You need some defense. I feel like Frozen Heart is a really good item on him. I wonder why no one builds it, but people seem to like randuins on him. The armor and aura helps him survive (not as much as randuins, but FH also has more armor), the cdr is really really good with his w and good for q and e too. It also gives him some mana so he can use more spells in a teamfight (500 mana = 5 ults = penta ). Plus Glacial Shroud on its own is already pretty good for a relatively cheap price.Additionaly you probably wanna get something like mercs and maw to cover some MR. (you might want more depending on the team, but you should be in a decent place with that). Maybe needs some health Frozen Mallet or Trinity Force if you have the gold (trinity proc nice with w i guess). Or just suck it up and go atmogs. GA should be good too since he will probably always be a threat. Blood thirster seems like the best idea for a major defensive item considering his ad scaling and his lack of sustain. Last Whisper might be a decent idea, with his e and the mastery from offense you get 1-(0.75*0.6*0.9)=0.595 -> almost 60% armor pen. Ghost blad seems feasible too. Some of the stats are a bit meh, especially the flat armor pen, but the active is really good and goes well with what Darius does. Plus brutalizer really good for midgame anyway, when you don't have many points in e and don't have a last whisper. So I guess you'll get like a brutalizer or a hexdrinker or maybe phage and then go into getting a thirster. Final build for me would look like this: Mercs/Tabi Thirster Maw Last Whisper Frozen Heart GA or Ghost Blade That's my view on it. Why get Bruta? Percent pen calculated after flat pen, you get about same Armor pen regardless. Rather wait 300 gold get a BF Sword. Same with LW, you get one free. Why build one? Gives you a slot to build another tanky item on. You can build like a Riven would but have room for one more Tanky item. | ||
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h3r1n6
Iceland2039 Posts
I agree though, going straight BF after double dorans might just be better in a lot of cases. | ||
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Dark_Chill
Canada3353 Posts
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PrinceXizor
United States17713 Posts
On May 25 2012 02:19 Dark_Chill wrote: I know Teemo is like the most annoying top ever made, how does he do against darius? It seems like he'd wreck him even harder than other melees, since Darius has no escape. Teemo could probably do well as long as he doesn't give up control of the bushes, which would mean needing to constantly ward to prevent ganks, but thats not as big of a deal. | ||
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Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
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TheLink
Australia2725 Posts
1400 gold on 2 chain vests is just as much armour as 3000 gold on frozen heart. Plenty tanky for cheap, can just spend on damage after that. | ||
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Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
On May 25 2012 02:58 TheLink wrote: When you go all-in damage on Darius or similar at least put a chain vest on him. Just 700 gold is massively reduced damage. 1400 gold on 2 chain vests is just as much armour as 3000 gold on frozen heart. Plenty tanky for cheap, can just spend on damage after that. I think you should typically be getting Omen and/or Aegis on him. He has no defensive skills, so you need a mix of HP and resists due to his short range. | ||
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PrinceXizor
United States17713 Posts
On May 25 2012 03:02 Mogwai wrote: I think you should typically be getting Omen and/or Aegis on him. He has no defensive skills, so you need a mix of HP and resists due to his short range. I was getting bruta > CDR boots > Sunfire > Banshees on Darius and doing extremely well. but i also go straight flat AD for runes and 21/9/0 masteries to keep his damage up. especially since executioner + havoc both improve his ultimate when you are planning on using it anyway. I want to find a way to work executioners culling into a darius build just for theme sake though, it's not a bad item for him anyway. | ||
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Cloud9157
United States2968 Posts
I know he has always been a RoA first champion, and then after that you build depending on lane: can go SV if you have a tough lane and need to be tankier, Rylai's for more damage and tankys, or Zhonya's if against an AD in lane/fed ADs. I'm really trying to force Chalice in atm. I just don't see where it would fit, since you want Swain to get RoA asap. I just don't think its good to buy a cata+chalice, since you don't need double the sustain. Chalice+Swain passive will bring you back up to solid mana easily, allowing you to spam ult for the sustain. Looking into maybe rune'ing him differently. Any thoughts from anyone else? | ||
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MooMooMugi
United States10531 Posts
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