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Celial
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
2602 Posts
May 03 2012 19:56 GMT
#721
Hm, I just played a couple games DotA 2 and I must say it's pretty weird: In the beginning, neither your autoattacks nor your spells do ANY damage to the opponent. Wait a few levels, and you 100-0 them (or they you lol) in less than a second... But I really like the lack of much CC. In League, you could just lower everyones movespeed as well because EVERYTHING SLOWS. Or stuns. Or snares. In DotA I find it very nice to be able to disengage should I survive their combo. Or engange at will. But yeah the damage is insane rofl.
Do not regret. Always forward, never back.
phyvo
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States5635 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-03 19:57:10
May 03 2012 19:56 GMT
#722
On May 04 2012 04:53 Sabin010 wrote:
ur carry is gonna have unlimited cleanse heal though. I think these would just turn into a stalemate until some ones keyboard breaks.


Get a macro which pushes heal/cleanse 1000x times for one button press and win when your opponents' keyboards break!
"BE A MANGO TO SLEEP LIKE A SNORING TIGER" - Monte
bmn
Profile Joined August 2010
886 Posts
May 03 2012 19:59 GMT
#723
On May 04 2012 04:54 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2012 04:51 bmn wrote:
There's nothing saying surge doesn't stack, so I assume it does...

Why would your default assumption be that buffs stack? The default behavior of most buffs is that they don't stack with themselves unless it's explicitly stated that they do.

Also, realistically Sion carry would win if it can stall to the point where Atma's + Enrage stacks 1-shots towers/inhibs/nexus.


I was just going by the spell description, I didn't know it was treated the same way as other buffs. If it doesn't stack, yeah, it's useless. If it doesn't stack, yeah, you need something else.

I know the description says you can't ignite minions, but is that true? If not, ignite/heal might be better because it wins you duels and lets you farm almost as fast if you have the apm. (You'd lose farm to another smite cheater though.)
crafter1709
Profile Joined May 2012
United States7 Posts
May 03 2012 20:01 GMT
#724
I think that it is true. you can't ignite minions... you should try anyways it would be cool if you can.
Parametric
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada1261 Posts
May 03 2012 20:02 GMT
#725
On May 04 2012 04:56 chalice wrote:
you guys are too stuck on flash, sure it's awesome, but if you want to win you take smite/heal

the guy with smite/flash can jump around farming all he wants while you're instantly clearing creep waves and knocking down towers. it doesn't matter that he can flash in and hit you without you being able to hit him back because the game will be over before he gets enough gear to 1 shot you.


You'll never die, but he can clear the entire jungle and all 3 lanes worth of creeps before you clear 1 wave. Then he'll kill towers way faster then you and you'll never catch him or kill him. He won't get enough gear to oneshot you but when you're level 3 and he's 10 levels ahead with 3 BFs and an attack speed item he's gonna get to your nexus first.
Crispy Bacon craving overload.
Kaniol
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Poland5551 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-03 20:04:17
May 03 2012 20:02 GMT
#726
On May 04 2012 04:56 Celial wrote:
Hm, I just played a couple games DotA 2 and I must say it's pretty weird: In the beginning, neither your autoattacks nor your spells do ANY damage to the opponent. Wait a few levels, and you 100-0 them (or they you lol) in less than a second... But I really like the lack of much CC. In League, you could just lower everyones movespeed as well because EVERYTHING SLOWS. Or stuns. Or snares. In DotA I find it very nice to be able to disengage should I survive their combo. Or engange at will. But yeah the damage is insane rofl.

IMO average DOTA teamcomp has way more hard CC but LoL has so much more slows.
Also DOTA CC lasts forever (compare shadow shaman to alistar) and is accessible to everyone through items
On May 04 2012 05:01 crafter1709 wrote:
I think that it is true. you can't ignite minions... you should try anyways it would be cool if you can.

You can ignite minions, until i saw these 2 posts i was certain that everyone had a game where he didn't get a kill cause he ignited a creep by accident
MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
May 03 2012 20:02 GMT
#727
You can still ignite minions

and wtf is with all the theorycrafting about the hack when its already been hotfixed
|LoL & SC2 IGN both my username| Just livin' the baylife| Hearthstone ID: MooMooMugi#1544| Dank Memer since 2011
NotTheMonker
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States131 Posts
May 03 2012 20:02 GMT
#728
Well, if Surge stacks with itself, then Surge/Heal probably wins because you can just use the obscene amount of AS/AP that stacked Surge gives you to immediately push down all towers without dying since you have Heal.
You cant be a good rapper without rhymes, and you cant be a good Pokemon trainer without CATCHING MORE POKEMON.
Lounge
Profile Joined November 2011
537 Posts
May 03 2012 20:03 GMT
#729
On May 04 2012 05:02 MooMooMugi wrote:
You can still ignite minions

and wtf is with all the theorycrafting about the hack when its already been hotfixed


It's General, if you like we can start talking about how Wriggles into PD is obviously superior to IE first. </sarcasm>
Frolossus
Profile Joined February 2010
United States4779 Posts
May 03 2012 20:04 GMT
#730
On May 04 2012 04:56 chalice wrote:
you guys are too stuck on flash, sure it's awesome, but if you want to win you take smite/heal

the guy with smite/flash can jump around farming all he wants while you're instantly clearing creep waves and knocking down towers. it doesn't matter that he can flash in and hit you without you being able to hit him back because the game will be over before he gets enough gear to 1 shot you.

promote heal bro
promote all the minions and keep healing them
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
May 03 2012 20:11 GMT
#731
On May 04 2012 04:56 chalice wrote:
you guys are too stuck on flash, sure it's awesome, but if you want to win you take smite/heal

the guy with smite/flash can jump around farming all he wants while you're instantly clearing creep waves and knocking down towers. it doesn't matter that he can flash in and hit you without you being able to hit him back because the game will be over before he gets enough gear to 1 shot you.

bullshit, I get to farm 2 jungles and 3 lanes to your 1 lane. I will RUIN you so damn fast, you'll probably get 2 towers and be level 2, then I show up with IE or DCap and level 6 and 1 shot you and the game is over. Like, in the 1v1 scenario, I'm just going to go GP, get level 7 by 3 minutes with IE and will just kill you in 1 Q for the rest of the game. Infinite mobility OP.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
May 03 2012 20:13 GMT
#732
Fuck you LoL. Was gonna go to PAX for the first time ever this year. Figured I'd wait until Friday to get tickets for it since that's when I get paid and because PAX has always had tickets for at least two weeks. All three-day passes and 1-day Friday plus 1-day Saturday tickets are sold out the day after registration goes up. 99% certain it's because of the NA regional finals.

I'm both pissed at LoL and impressed that they managed to cause an event to sell out in record time.
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
May 03 2012 20:15 GMT
#733
LoL is the biggest game in the world right now man, dunno what to tell you. I for one am stoked at the level of hype they're managing to create surrounding their game.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
May 03 2012 20:16 GMT
#734
On May 04 2012 05:15 Mogwai wrote:
LoL is the biggest game in the world right now man, dunno what to tell you. I for one am stoked at the level of hype they're managing to create surrounding their game.


Yeah, I'm more excited about it than pissed about it. I can always just go to PAX next year and make sure to buy my tickets as soon as registration goes up. It's really damn impressive though that PAX sold out so quickly.
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
May 03 2012 20:17 GMT
#735
On May 04 2012 05:02 MooMooMugi wrote:
You can still ignite minions

and wtf is with all the theorycrafting about the hack when its already been hotfixed


It's fun.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
May 03 2012 20:22 GMT
#736
It's all fun until someone puts too much time into it. Super Theory Brothers Melee was so much fun and then Magus had to show us that basically Fox and Bowser were the only viable strategies.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
XaCez
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden6991 Posts
May 03 2012 20:37 GMT
#737
On May 04 2012 05:13 overt wrote:
Fuck you LoL. Was gonna go to PAX for the first time ever this year. Figured I'd wait until Friday to get tickets for it since that's when I get paid and because PAX has always had tickets for at least two weeks. All three-day passes and 1-day Friday plus 1-day Saturday tickets are sold out the day after registration goes up. 99% certain it's because of the NA regional finals.

I'm both pissed at LoL and impressed that they managed to cause an event to sell out in record time.


http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/t5gpa/i_am_marc_tryndamere_merrill_president_cofounder/c4jpqoq?context=3
there will be opportunities for people to attend who haven't gotten PAX passes yet.
People get too easily offended by people getting too easily offended by the word rape.
Jaso
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2147 Posts
May 03 2012 21:02 GMT
#738
Can anyone give me a basic insight into how much streamers make?

Like, if someone has 10k viewers on average for 8 hours, and plays 3 ads every hour, how much can they expect to make?
derp
Frolossus
Profile Joined February 2010
United States4779 Posts
May 03 2012 21:04 GMT
#739
On May 04 2012 06:02 Jaso wrote:
Can anyone give me a basic insight into how much streamers make?

Like, if someone has 10k viewers on average for 8 hours, and plays 3 ads every hour, how much can they expect to make?

own3d rates were 3$ per 1k ads iirc
can't speak for twitch
Jaso
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2147 Posts
May 03 2012 21:05 GMT
#740
Hm. That's 1k impressions, right?

If so in the situation I gave it'd be around $30/hour.
Not a bad life for top players.
derp
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