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Slayer91
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Two_DoWn
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TheYango
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Mogwai
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Eiii
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On May 04 2012 04:41 Mogwai wrote: since we're doing an absurd scenario, I think it's fair to assume that people can infinitely spam heal so it's really about 1shotting vs. 4 heal spammer teams as far as I can tell. Though 2 smites might be stronger than 1 in the initial gold/xp grab phase of the game. Realistically, the only major gain of having a 2nd smite is for buffs. The gold gain increase from being able to snipe 1-2 more jungle camps every minute when you're already getting 3 lanes worth of creeps every 30 seconds is fairly small. | ||
Two_DoWn
United States13684 Posts
On May 04 2012 04:43 Eiii wrote: ...wait, it just occurred to me that it's probably safe to make an account on the test realm and fuck around with the hacks there. Why not put these 5v5 infinite-CDR summoner theories to the test? Because then someone would be right. And that would ruin the whole theorycrafting thing. | ||
Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
On May 04 2012 04:44 Two_DoWn wrote: Because then someone would be right. And that would ruin the whole theorycrafting thing. Not to mention Riot looks down on you replicating the hacks. | ||
Eiii
United States2566 Posts
On May 04 2012 04:46 Mogwai wrote: Not to mention Riot looks down on you replicating the hacks. Well, clearly. But if you sign up for the PBE through a VPN, play through that VPN... Riot hasn't shown that they've ever implemented some sort of hardware banning, so hiding your IP should be safe. Hell, I'm on a major university's network so an IP ban wouldn't even be viable if Riot were to ever choose to do something like that! And it's hard to argue that messing around in customs where everyone knows what's going on is harmful or immoral or a dick move in any way :3 | ||
bmn
886 Posts
On May 04 2012 04:46 Mogwai wrote: Not to mention Riot looks down on you replicating the hacks. Why would you pick smite over surge? You don't need levels if you one-shot towers and inhibs. | ||
ishboh
United States954 Posts
tons of damage, no deaths...insta push down center lane, win in 2 minutes edit:unless surge doesnt stack? | ||
Slayer91
Ireland23335 Posts
On May 04 2012 04:50 bmn wrote: Why would you pick smite over surge? You don't need levels if you one-shot towers and inhibs. You can't stack surge? Just reset the cooldown. What buffs in this game actually do stack like that? You can't double stack an udyr turtle shield. And a flash smiter can easily get level 4 at minute 1 and kill you constantly to stop your surge push. Unless you mean promote, smite counters that too. Flash promote would be hilarious though. | ||
Abenson
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bmn
886 Posts
On May 04 2012 04:50 ishboh wrote: what about heal/surge tons of damage, no deaths...insta push down center lane, win in 2 minutes edit:unless surge doesnt stack? There's nothing saying surge doesn't stack, so I assume it does... And no need for heal, you want flash. You one-shot everything that isn't invulnerable, including towers, anyway. Edit: You want teemo or someone else with a very low cd (autoattack ideal) that scales with AP. | ||
Lounge
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QSS can save you from one fear/silence bounce but he'll have blue so they'll both be such short CDs that the next time you get hit he'll kill you while all healers are silenced/the carry is feared. Galio Ult is another good one to stop the mass flashing. | ||
bmn
886 Posts
On May 04 2012 04:52 Lounge wrote: AD Fiddle as your carry. Most steroids are attack speed and meaningless in that situation. QSS can save you from one fear/silence bounce but he'll have blue so they'll both be such short CDs that the next time you get hit he'll kill you while all healers are silenced/the carry is feared. Galio Ult is another good one to stop the mass flashing. If you pick surge -- assuming it does stack -- you get practically unlimited AP, so I don't see why offensive items are needed anyway :-) | ||
Sabin010
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On May 04 2012 04:51 bmn wrote: There's nothing saying surge doesn't stack, so I assume it does... Why would your default assumption be that buffs stack? The default behavior of most buffs is that they don't stack with themselves unless it's explicitly stated that they do. Also, realistically Sion carry would win if it can stall to the point where Atma's + Enrage stacks 1-shots towers/inhibs/nexus. Every other carry caps out at the point of 6 items, but Sion can keep going. | ||
Chiharu Harukaze
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On May 04 2012 04:49 Eiii wrote: Riot hasn't shown that they've ever implemented some sort of hardware banning, so hiding your IP should be safe. Want to make a bet? I feel like making some money. On May 04 2012 04:50 Abenson wrote: More importantly, has it been fixed yet? Yes, Hotfix has been deployed. | ||
chalice
United States1945 Posts
the guy with smite/flash can jump around farming all he wants while you're instantly clearing creep waves and knocking down towers. it doesn't matter that he can flash in and hit you without you being able to hit him back because the game will be over before he gets enough gear to 1 shot you. | ||
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