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[Patch 1.0.0.138: Hecarim] General Discussion - Page 39

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zodde
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden1908 Posts
April 20 2012 08:46 GMT
#761
On April 20 2012 17:43 JackDino wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 20 2012 17:39 Alaric wrote:
The problem with Hecarim is that you can't just right-clic people to do stuff. There's that weird thing called positioning on his ult and E.
And now all those first day purchase that go all "I'm coming to gank !", turn E on for super speed, zoom zoom to the opponent with no regards to you and just ult him back to his own tower.

That champ is a trap for those of us that don't play him nor jungle! T_T

Yeah, imagine people reading his abilities and trying to use them properly instead of pressing buttons and hoping things work out à la ryze.


Hey, Ryze is a very complex hero, don't be hatin ;D
Sickworld
Profile Joined March 2011
437 Posts
April 20 2012 09:02 GMT
#762
I imagine a bad Hecarim is like a bad Alistar. "oh, you wanted that kill? NOPE"
Leave it to me
RogerX
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
New Zealand3180 Posts
April 20 2012 09:03 GMT
#763
On April 20 2012 18:02 Sickworld wrote:
I imagine a bad Hecarim is like a bad Alistar. "oh, you wanted that kill? NOPE"

Not THAT bad..

At least Hecarim doesn't push my kill over the cliff -.- ...
Stick it up. take it up. step aside and see the world
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
April 20 2012 09:13 GMT
#764
On April 20 2012 18:03 RogerX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 20 2012 18:02 Sickworld wrote:
I imagine a bad Hecarim is like a bad Alistar. "oh, you wanted that kill? NOPE"

Not THAT bad..

At least Hecarim doesn't push my kill over the cliff -.- ...

But back into their turret. Together with himself to feed a kill
A backwards poet writes inverse.
Schwopzi
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands954 Posts
April 20 2012 09:15 GMT
#765
On April 20 2012 17:11 TheKefka wrote:
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On April 20 2012 16:57 xoFlower wrote:
Teemo changes too stronk. I haven't really see him lose his lane yet at higher elo.

Well I mean teemo won his lane before as well.That's the whole point of teemo.The problem were always teamfights and late game.

Show nested quote +
Minor question. Do the Armor Pen quints that give 3.33 armor pen if three are used become 9 armor pen or 10 armor pen due to rounding?

3.33×3= 9.99 :D So yea 10
It always adds all the values together before rounding up the number as far as I know.It shows the rounded value but the internal stays decimal I think.


I think they use rounded numbers for all practical purposes. My reasoning behind this is that akali's passive activates with +6.6 ad in runes & + 3 ad in masteries (so 9.6 ad for a passive that requires 10 ad to activate).
Only the dead have seen the end of war
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-20 09:16:44
April 20 2012 09:16 GMT
#766
they specifically made akali work with numbers that are lower than the displayed round ones so you could rune into them more easily.

Fractional stats exist and as far as I know aren't rounded in this game.
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
ihasaKAROT
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4730 Posts
April 20 2012 11:23 GMT
#767
Yorick destroys teemo toplane tho, havent seen a teemo beat a good yorick in a long time. Since teemo Q only blocks the damage part of the Yorick Q while the ghoul still pops
KCCO!
Haasts
Profile Joined October 2011
New Zealand4445 Posts
April 20 2012 11:33 GMT
#768
Are chat lobbies in champion select working again on NA?

Also, randomly tuned into Dyrus' stream last night and caught him playing a bunch of games as solo top Nautilus - anyone know of any other streamers who play the anchorman top? AFAIK chu8 sometimes goes mid with him, but never seen it in action.
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nyxnyxnyx
Profile Joined April 2010
Indonesia2978 Posts
April 20 2012 11:37 GMT
#769
everytime someone mentions yorick beating another hero top lane, a puppy runs out of oxygen and dies
cool beans
Vlanitak
Profile Joined November 2009
Norway3045 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-20 11:38:33
April 20 2012 11:37 GMT
#770
Quick question:
according to league wiki and ingame tooltip Jarmanders E (flag) grants him bonus asped and arm when you have it lvled. I am pretty sure i only got the bonus asped and armor when I actually placed the flag down. Has anyone else seen this and can confirm/deny it for me? Thanks

edit to haast: westrice does
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jadoth
Profile Joined December 2011
694 Posts
April 20 2012 12:03 GMT
#771
On April 20 2012 20:37 Vlanitak wrote:
Quick question:
according to league wiki and ingame tooltip Jarmanders E (flag) grants him bonus asped and arm when you have it lvled. I am pretty sure i only got the bonus asped and armor when I actually placed the flag down. Has anyone else seen this and can confirm/deny it for me? Thanks

edit to haast: westrice does


it gives bonus armor and as and when you drop the flag the flag has an aura that gives bonus armor and as as well. so when you lvl it you get the bonus stats and when you drop the flag you get double the bonus stats as long as you stay in range.
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
April 20 2012 12:16 GMT
#772
Jarvan has super low base armour so you don't notice it being high until you place the flag.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
April 20 2012 12:29 GMT
#773
Ugh, so today I've finally got around to playing a lot of ranked 5's w/ friends and shit, and pretty much got relegated to top lane (which I'm absolutely terrible at).

What are some ezpz top-laners that don't have a lot of counters?
Also, how do I lane as nidalee against olaf? I just felt like i got my face smashed in so hard.
liftlift > tsm
Jamesein
Profile Joined August 2010
United States7 Posts
April 20 2012 12:30 GMT
#774
On April 20 2012 20:37 nyxnyxnyx wrote:
everytime someone mentions yorick beating another hero top lane, a puppy runs out of oxygen and dies


For some reason this made me laugh so hard it hurt!
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
April 20 2012 12:40 GMT
#775
On April 20 2012 21:16 Slayer91 wrote:
Jarvan has super low base armour so you don't notice it being high until you place the flag.

Jarman flag also causes super big lag in this patch.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
April 20 2012 12:53 GMT
#776
On April 20 2012 21:29 wei2coolman wrote:
Ugh, so today I've finally got around to playing a lot of ranked 5's w/ friends and shit, and pretty much got relegated to top lane (which I'm absolutely terrible at).

What are some ezpz top-laners that don't have a lot of counters?
Also, how do I lane as nidalee against olaf? I just felt like i got my face smashed in so hard.


Uh... I guess as long as you can dodge his Q you're good? Get a phage (directly or after wriggles), abuse your movespeed in the bushes, harass him as he's got no way to retaliate/farm if you zone him other than Q.

For other easy and strong top laners, I'd say Teemo, Warwick, Shen. But Olaf and those last two are often banned.
Riven super strong but not totally faceroll.

And of course, it's the opportunity for you to embrace the awesomeness of Mantheon.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Praetorial
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States4241 Posts
April 20 2012 13:29 GMT
#777
On April 20 2012 21:29 wei2coolman wrote:
Ugh, so today I've finally got around to playing a lot of ranked 5's w/ friends and shit, and pretty much got relegated to top lane (which I'm absolutely terrible at).

What are some ezpz top-laners that don't have a lot of counters?
Also, how do I lane as nidalee against olaf? I just felt like i got my face smashed in so hard.


Yorick. Don't kill me.
FOR GREAT JUSTICE! Bans for the ban gods!
Sabin010
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1892 Posts
April 20 2012 13:33 GMT
#778
On April 20 2012 21:53 Alaric wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 20 2012 21:29 wei2coolman wrote:
Ugh, so today I've finally got around to playing a lot of ranked 5's w/ friends and shit, and pretty much got relegated to top lane (which I'm absolutely terrible at).

What are some ezpz top-laners that don't have a lot of counters?
Also, how do I lane as nidalee against olaf? I just felt like i got my face smashed in so hard.


Uh... I guess as long as you can dodge his Q you're good? Get a phage (directly or after wriggles), abuse your movespeed in the bushes, harass him as he's got no way to retaliate/farm if you zone him other than Q.

For other easy and strong top laners, I'd say Teemo, Warwick, Shen. But Olaf and those last two are often banned.
Riven super strong but not totally faceroll.

And of course, it's the opportunity for you to embrace the awesomeness of Mantheon.


You should also learn a few ap's with escapes that can top lane for a double WotA comp. Vlad/Gragas/Kennen come to mind. You could try Ryze, or some casters with out escapes, but you're going to rely on summoners to escape ganks if you get caught early. I've had some success with ghost flash on casters with no escape up top.
BobMcJohnson
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
France2916 Posts
April 20 2012 14:17 GMT
#779
On April 20 2012 20:33 Haasts wrote:
Are chat lobbies in champion select working again on NA?

Also, randomly tuned into Dyrus' stream last night and caught him playing a bunch of games as solo top Nautilus - anyone know of any other streamers who play the anchorman top? AFAIK chu8 sometimes goes mid with him, but never seen it in action.


I saw chu playing him top a couple times too, i remember him completly destroying a riven the other day, not sure if the riven was bad or if the matchup is really Naut-favored though.
Romanes eunt domus
Haemonculus
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States6980 Posts
April 20 2012 14:26 GMT
#780
When I tried Hecarim out I did pretty bad, but Montgomery was wrecking faces with him yesterday. It was ridiculous. Made him look OP
I admire your commitment to being *very* oily
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