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Canada10660 Posts
On April 20 2012 12:56 BlackPaladin wrote: That's how it normally is when a new champ comes out though? :s Rhav has been raging so hard cause every single one has been horrible lolol. I'm pretty sure he just sucks... I havn't seen a single good one yet. Whereas like every other Lulu just like killed things as a support. | ||
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Kenpachi
United States9908 Posts
ive been running 9/21/0 on him and his dmg feels completely underwhelming. | ||
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Seiuchi
United States931 Posts
On April 20 2012 12:58 Kenpachi wrote: I dont get how to play Hecarim. he sucks when i play him ive been running 9/21/0 on him and his dmg feels completely underwhelming. Hecarim's not good at jungling. He might be useful top sometimes. People just are hesitant to adamantly call him a failure at this point because the general community backlash against judging a champ immediately. | ||
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Celial
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Jaso
United States2147 Posts
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sinii
England989 Posts
Hybrid on him seems incredibly strong. | ||
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ManyCookies
1164 Posts
On April 20 2012 13:11 Seiuchi wrote: People just are hesitant to adamantly call him a failure at this point because the general community backlash against judging a champ immediately. It's not a practice limited to LoL. It's accounting for the mental margin of error "My first impressions tell me x, and even though I feel x is most likely, I adknowledge that my and/or the community's judgement could be wrong". As we play more games with Hecarim (increased sample size), we can reduce that margin of error and make a better judgement. Although many players are just knee-jerking than being stastically aware. | ||
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anmolsinghmzn2009
India1783 Posts
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
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BlackPaladin
United States9316 Posts
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zodde
Sweden1908 Posts
Edit: Not just one game, was more like 10 ^^ | ||
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HazMat
United States17077 Posts
On April 20 2012 13:47 BlackPaladin wrote: inb4 heracrim one day becomes fotm op. Every hero can become fotm, no matter how good or bad. I don't think we can judge Hec just yet, especially with how unplayable the server has been. | ||
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sinii
England989 Posts
Building something like early sheen into Hextech+Lichbane. His W is SO strong with high AP. | ||
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anmolsinghmzn2009
India1783 Posts
On April 20 2012 13:40 Slusher wrote: seems to me he's a failure as a jungle for sure, possible top lane viability but not enough data Morello posted they might look into increasing his Q damage to minions. | ||
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ManyCookies
1164 Posts
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BlackPaladin
United States9316 Posts
On April 20 2012 13:50 HazMat wrote: Every hero can become fotm, no matter how good or bad. I don't think we can judge Hec just yet, especially with how unplayable the server has been. Yes, that was the joke of my post mr. smashdrizzle sir. No matter what, I'm essentially still right. WHAT NOW?! But yeah, what you said is my opinion too. Although, my reasoning behind we can't properly judge him yet is more from people not figuring him out fully yet. All new champs take a while to figure out. This bs happens every patch and it's become kind of a big joke to me. :> | ||
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
On April 20 2012 13:59 anmolsinghmzn2009 wrote: Morello posted they might look into increasing his Q damage to minions. this is all from observation and reading things as I for obvious reasons have not been convinced to puchace him, but clear speed is a big part of his problem. but the other half is everyone talks about how much work he can do with triforce, which is obtainable much quicker with top lane farm, if people can find matchups he can handle. | ||
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ManyCookies
1164 Posts
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chalice
United States1945 Posts
On April 20 2012 13:55 sinii wrote: The AP ratios on his W and R are really high, I think he could be really viable mid actually. Building something like early sheen into Hextech+Lichbane. His W is SO strong with high AP. what are you gonna do when W is on cooldown though? try to last hit with your 25 damage Q? the only reason kass and fizz can work as melee AP's is because they have sick burst damage to 100->0 someone at 6 combined with amazing mobility. hecarim has like no burst damage whatsoever and can run really fast once every 24 seconds. the best thing i can see going for hecarim mid is that his Q does so little damage that it'll be sick good at setting up last hits on ranged minions under tower when you get completely zoned by pretty much any and all ranged harassment. | ||
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sinii
England989 Posts
On April 20 2012 14:17 chalice wrote: what are you gonna do when W is on cooldown though? try to last hit with your 25 damage Q? the only reason kass and fizz can work as melee AP's is because they have sick burst damage to 100->0 someone at 6 combined with amazing mobility. hecarim has like no burst damage whatsoever and can run really fast once every 24 seconds. the best thing i can see going for hecarim mid is that his Q does so little damage that it'll be sick good at setting up last hits on ranged minions under tower when you get completely zoned by pretty much any and all ranged harassment. You clearly havnt seen the burst of his R+W combo with lots of AP. AoE burst at that with a CC attached for good measure.  | ||
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