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On April 27 2012 08:12 jadoth wrote:Show nested quote +On April 27 2012 07:27 Chiharu Harukaze wrote:On April 27 2012 07:25 arb wrote:
Coulda swore i read on here it had a cap.
disregard that then. Iirc, Veigar, Nasus and Sion have hard caps on their skills but it's something infeasibly high. I think Nasus Q was something like 23k damage? Am I wrong in thinking that all stats must have some cap based on how the data is structured? like say hp is capped at ###### because it is only # bits long.
If you're being technical, yes, it's wrong, they could just be using arbitrary-precision arithmetic. (Limited only by how much memory there is on the servers/your computer)
In practice, they're almost certainly capped at some level, but if your main concern is typical integer size (32/64 bit) then you're probably going to die of old age before sion can hit enough enrages to reach that. It's probably more likely that there's some arbitrary constant that is "large enough" that they set it as the cap under the assumption it'll never be reached.
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On April 27 2012 08:21 Juddas wrote:Show nested quote +On April 27 2012 08:00 sob3k wrote:On April 27 2012 07:55 Juddas wrote:
Lol so today I decided to troll around a little bit and thought AD ryze seemed like a fun idea.
Tons of fun. Surprisingly good actually. Rushed manamune and then frozen heart, still was doing tons of damage, then got Tforce and Black Cleaver huehue.
13/6/11 I believe.
too stronk, better than AP imo Anything is better than AP Ryze.... AD Ryze is terrible because you can either cast spells or AA, you cant do both in a fight. His only decent AD skill is the snare...but then it has long cooldown if you arent spamming his other spells, and if you do spam them then you arent using your AD. AD Annie is considerably better than AD Ryze in every way, if you want a joke build. But manamune..... and frozen heart....
Why would manamune and frozen heart be better on AD Ryze than on AD Annie? If you're not using his spells for damage, there's no reason to build Frozen heart on Ryze more so than on Annie...
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On April 27 2012 08:34 bmn wrote:Show nested quote +On April 27 2012 08:21 Juddas wrote:On April 27 2012 08:00 sob3k wrote:On April 27 2012 07:55 Juddas wrote:
Lol so today I decided to troll around a little bit and thought AD ryze seemed like a fun idea.
Tons of fun. Surprisingly good actually. Rushed manamune and then frozen heart, still was doing tons of damage, then got Tforce and Black Cleaver huehue.
13/6/11 I believe.
too stronk, better than AP imo Anything is better than AP Ryze.... AD Ryze is terrible because you can either cast spells or AA, you cant do both in a fight. His only decent AD skill is the snare...but then it has long cooldown if you arent spamming his other spells, and if you do spam them then you arent using your AD. AD Annie is considerably better than AD Ryze in every way, if you want a joke build. But manamune..... and frozen heart.... Why would manamune and frozen heart be better on AD Ryze than on AD Annie? If you're not using his spells for damage, there's no reason to build Frozen heart on Ryze more so than on Annie...
But you would be doing it for damage and ATTACK
Triforce+manamune+frzn heart. w-attack-q-attack-e-attack-q-attack.
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On April 27 2012 08:39 wei2coolman wrote:Show nested quote +On April 27 2012 08:34 bmn wrote:On April 27 2012 08:21 Juddas wrote:On April 27 2012 08:00 sob3k wrote:On April 27 2012 07:55 Juddas wrote:
Lol so today I decided to troll around a little bit and thought AD ryze seemed like a fun idea.
Tons of fun. Surprisingly good actually. Rushed manamune and then frozen heart, still was doing tons of damage, then got Tforce and Black Cleaver huehue.
13/6/11 I believe.
too stronk, better than AP imo Anything is better than AP Ryze.... AD Ryze is terrible because you can either cast spells or AA, you cant do both in a fight. His only decent AD skill is the snare...but then it has long cooldown if you arent spamming his other spells, and if you do spam them then you arent using your AD. AD Annie is considerably better than AD Ryze in every way, if you want a joke build. But manamune..... and frozen heart.... Why would manamune and frozen heart be better on AD Ryze than on AD Annie? If you're not using his spells for damage, there's no reason to build Frozen heart on Ryze more so than on Annie... But you would be doing it for damage and ATTACK Triforce+manamune+frzn heart. w-attack-q-attack-e-attack-q-attack.
stop encouraging this noob build
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If I didn't know any better, I would think sob3k lost to an AD ryze before 
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Oddest build I've lost to was AP Ezreal...makes me kinda sad nobody does funny shit in normals, every other game i'm maximum bravery yi or AD Kassadin or Tankgar
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On April 27 2012 08:13 TheYango wrote:Show nested quote +On April 27 2012 08:08 cDgCornpops wrote:
Was wondering if there's a way to do this on LoL?
Don't see why not. He's just using XSplit to capture the corner of his screen and output it to his 2nd monitor. I don't think any part of that is SC2-specific.
On top of that he's not even streaming. He just has the XSplit window stretched to fill his second monitor, so there's no appreciable lag between the real minimap and the second monitor.
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On April 27 2012 08:39 wei2coolman wrote:Show nested quote +On April 27 2012 08:34 bmn wrote:On April 27 2012 08:21 Juddas wrote:On April 27 2012 08:00 sob3k wrote:On April 27 2012 07:55 Juddas wrote:
Lol so today I decided to troll around a little bit and thought AD ryze seemed like a fun idea.
Tons of fun. Surprisingly good actually. Rushed manamune and then frozen heart, still was doing tons of damage, then got Tforce and Black Cleaver huehue.
13/6/11 I believe.
too stronk, better than AP imo Anything is better than AP Ryze.... AD Ryze is terrible because you can either cast spells or AA, you cant do both in a fight. His only decent AD skill is the snare...but then it has long cooldown if you arent spamming his other spells, and if you do spam them then you arent using your AD. AD Annie is considerably better than AD Ryze in every way, if you want a joke build. But manamune..... and frozen heart.... Why would manamune and frozen heart be better on AD Ryze than on AD Annie? If you're not using his spells for damage, there's no reason to build Frozen heart on Ryze more so than on Annie... But you would be doing it for damage and ATTACK Triforce+manamune+frzn heart. w-attack-q-attack-e-attack-q-attack.
Thank you! That's how I was doing it, so i guess it's not a full AD build or anything, but I said manamune and frozen heart because his spells still do about the same damage except with some room to AA
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Does anyone else have problems with connecting to the chat on EUW? Without the chat service, you can't invite people to games
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On April 27 2012 08:46 sob3k wrote:
Oddest build I've lost to was AP Ezreal...makes me kinda sad nobody does funny shit in normals, every other game i'm maximum bravery yi or AD Kassadin or Tankgar
Tankgar is fun because Q canstill build some ridiculous AP, and R is still lawl.
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Chat is dead to me too. Including in champ select.
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On April 27 2012 09:30 Alaric wrote:
Chat is dead to me too. Including in champ select.
How long has it been like that?
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I don't know. Around 45 minutes ago a game finished, and by then I couldn't connect to chat. Game lasted around 36 minutes (and was pretty painful, but that's matter for another thread).
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Seems like the leaver system is broken. Leave for a 6 minute d/c in a 28 minute game (there for last 22 minutes) in premade ranked.
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On April 27 2012 09:18 cLutZ wrote:Show nested quote +On April 27 2012 08:46 sob3k wrote:
Oddest build I've lost to was AP Ezreal...makes me kinda sad nobody does funny shit in normals, every other game i'm maximum bravery yi or AD Kassadin or Tankgar Tankgar is fun because Q canstill build some ridiculous AP, and R is still lawl.
what's tankgar?
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Shen reminds me of Morgana. Permaban, but whenever somebody gets his hands on him it seems like they can't play him properly for the life of them.
Mundo on the other hand seems to have more decent practicionners than not, from what I've seen (1250 Elo sup).
When I see the bans at that Elo, it actually reminds me more of the veto system for SC2 maps than a real ban procedure, in that people just select what they don't like, or have been told is imbalanced, without putting much thought into it.
How is it at higher Elo? Do people discuss bans more? Are they more generic or targeted at whatever you don't like when you're first pick (from what I recall, the practices regarding that point are quite split in our subforum)?
I'm always surprised at people banning following exactly the same procedure whether they're first pick or second pick. FP gives you so many opportunities to force "standard" bans on your opponent, thus keeping a number of options open, or being able to ban whatever you don't like.
Edit: talking about soloQ, since as the next post mentions, scrims are a totally different story as you know who you're playing against and what they play.
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On April 27 2012 10:55 Alaric wrote:
Shen reminds me of Morgana. Permaban, but whenever somebody gets his hands on him it seems like they can't play him properly for the life of them.
Mundo on the other hand seems to have more decent practicionners than not, from what I've seen (1250 Elo sup).
When I see the bans at that Elo, it actually reminds me more of the veto system for SC2 maps than a real ban procedure, in that people just select what they don't like, or have been told is imbalanced, without putting much thought into it.
How is it at higher Elo? Do people discuss bans more? Are they more generic or targeted at whatever you don't like when you're first pick (from what I recall, the practices regarding that point are quite split in our subforum)?
I'm always surprised at people banning following exactly the same procedure whether they're first pick or second pick. FP gives you so many opportunities to force "standard" bans on your opponent, thus keeping a number of options open, or being able to ban whatever you don't like.
From my perspective as a frequent stream watcher and I watch every big tournie I can, they differ.
In solo q, I don't see much discussion at high ELOs. They just ban the pretty gimmicky champs like Shaco and Shen(dat ulti son). You will also see some of the less usual bans like Graves or Ryze, at least compared to the lower ELO. I remember when I had first pick and I banned like Shen, Urgot, and Ryze. Teammates gave me so much shit for banning Ryze+Urgot. Urgot may have been a tad overboard(he was getting REAL popular with the pros at the time though) but Ryze was understandable imo. I mean, sure a lot of people will probably suck using him, but ehh.
However, when you see the pros together, its a different story. I hear a LOT of talk during scrims, sometimes they ban at the very last moment. Tournies are usually targeted bans. Take IPL4 for example. CLG vs TSM GFs had CLG banning Nocturne ALL 6 games. It pretty much shut down TOO entirely.
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