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On March 24 2012 04:46 NotTheMonker wrote: TSM is talking about who among them has the most champions. Even the pros don't have all the champions!? wtf They would if they spent their tournament winnings on champs instead of skins
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On March 24 2012 04:46 NotTheMonker wrote: TSM is talking about who among them has the most champions. Even the pros don't have all the champions!? wtf
Entirely understandable if you consider that the actual pool of heroes that are viable for competitive play is relatively small to the total pool of heroes. There's no need for the pros to own every single one, especially since it takes money and a lot of time to buy them.
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Also TSM are on their European accounts which they only created this year. On their main accounts they all own almost all of the champs.
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On March 24 2012 04:46 NotTheMonker wrote: TSM is talking about who among them has the most champions. Even the pros don't have all the champions!? wtf They recently moved over to EU West, so they don't have all the champs there.
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I seem to remember Wick'd a while ago(when SK had him..) saying he didn't have some champions mostly because he'd never play them and he'd never needed to do so. I'd agree with exception of tournaments you really only need so many. *shrug* It would make switching champions after picks hilariously awkward if you didn't happen to own the champion they wanted..
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On March 24 2012 04:37 Offhand wrote: Teemo doesn't care about CDR or MP5 for instance Massive shroom gardens. Enough said.
"Random" AP ratios help when you consider stuff like Baron buff, WotA, Taric ult and so on. In some cases, a hybrid item might be a viable choice. Maybe you want the Gunblade nuke/slow on a champion but because you only have scaling of one type it's not efficient enough. There's just more options if you have more than just one type of scaling.
And they are fun. That's the important part.
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On March 24 2012 04:52 Parnage wrote: I seem to remember Wick'd a while ago(when SK had him..) saying he didn't have some champions mostly because he'd never play them and he'd never needed to do so. I'd agree with exception of tournaments you really only need so many. *shrug* It would make switching champions after picks hilariously awkward if you didn't happen to own the champion they wanted..
Then tell the other team what you're picking and pick Eve as a stand-in, it's what TSM does all the time lol.
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What's the general consesus on spell vamp quints for manaless casters like Vlad/Rumble/Kennen? Because I see some pro's using them and some using just flap ap quints, is it just personal preference?
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On March 24 2012 05:24 Sponge75 wrote: What's the general consesus on spell vamp quints for manaless casters like Vlad/Rumble/Kennen? Because I see some pro's using them and some using just flap ap quints, is it just personal preference? It depends on the matchup and how you want to play it out and whether more burst or more sustain is more important.
I'd have both pages and pick as needed
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Just to let you all know. I have finished my finals. GD will no longer be safe!
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well in terms of gold efficiency the quints themselves are n ot very impressive however, in terms of a stat, spellvamp and lifesteal are more useful if you are allowed to consistently hit creeps with the relevant attack / spells and can consistently make use of the healing. in other words, in lanes where you would be dominating either way it would be pretty inefficient as you would not be able to make full use of the healing nor would you desire it over additional damage. likewise, in lanes where you lose hard, you would not want it either imo because you would not be able to hit creeps or the enemy champion in any meaningful way without being punished such that the relative inefficiency of the quints would be greater than the additional damage or mitigation that flat MR / armor or AP / AD would give you
i think kennen probably has the nicest time with them as he is able to apply the spellvamp as he desires on a relatively low CD to creeps or the enemy champion (as it has great range and low CD for his Q at least) and he is generally able to dictate the pace of a lane because his counterharass and stun prevents an enemy from going on him early levels without eating a devestating amount of creep aggro. the nature of the quints themselves would make it such that you prefer a drawn out laning phase with small harass that builds up (and allows you to utilize your quints so that you slowly but surely outsustain your opponent). i think that they are niche enough that they are certainly not a must-buy on any champion at the moment, but for connoisseurs of the champions that may use them, they might be a curious option
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Scarra about to play AP Blitz mid: http://www.twitch.tv/scarra
He says he's started legendary most of the times before. This should be good. :D
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On March 24 2012 04:54 hasuprotoss wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2012 04:52 Parnage wrote: I seem to remember Wick'd a while ago(when SK had him..) saying he didn't have some champions mostly because he'd never play them and he'd never needed to do so. I'd agree with exception of tournaments you really only need so many. *shrug* It would make switching champions after picks hilariously awkward if you didn't happen to own the champion they wanted.. Then tell the other team what you're picking and pick Eve as a stand-in, it's what TSM does all the time lol. Or just allow to switch place when it's your turn to pick. Even easier...
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But they don't want to reveal a pick that could be countered if its earlier in the picks...
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Um...
Everlasting, in every game I have ever seen of him in streams, has always failed and fed horribly. How's he high elo :/ Makes me sad.
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On March 24 2012 06:12 mordek wrote: But they don't want to reveal a pick that could be countered if its earlier in the picks... They should just do what DotA does, let the captain make all the picks based on your combined hero pool (which they can obviously see because that's how they let you do bans) and then have each person pick which hero they're playing.
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On March 24 2012 06:28 arnath wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2012 06:12 mordek wrote: But they don't want to reveal a pick that could be countered if its earlier in the picks... They should just do what DotA does, let the captain make all the picks based on your combined hero pool (which they can obviously see because that's how they let you do bans) and then have each person pick which hero they're playing. Sure would be scary when you got a troll captain.
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That'd probably be more effiicent, though should exclusively be a tournament thing.
"Im gong trondomere. i need support, so u all get Kayle, Nidalee, Janna, and Nunu."
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On March 24 2012 06:28 arnath wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2012 06:12 mordek wrote: But they don't want to reveal a pick that could be countered if its earlier in the picks... They should just do what DotA does, let the captain make all the picks based on your combined hero pool (which they can obviously see because that's how they let you do bans) and then have each person pick which hero they're playing.
Hai guys, watcha wanna play? Oh those are some nice picks... I'll choose a full support team for u guysLOLLLLLLLLLLLL
Or
Hey you want to play an unorthodox champ that works and you enjoy playing? Nope you get boring meta junk GL HF
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Would work fine in arranged 5s though.
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