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On March 24 2012 00:17 nojitosunrise wrote:
sv: "Why don't you practice graves bot lane?
double: "Because I'm not good with graves"
Doublelift has been resistant to Graves for a long time every since release when Doublelift said he wasn't OP. SV has been trying to force Doublelift to play him for a while too picking him for him one game. Then Doublelift goes "wow Graves is so retarded he snowballs so easily" which he said after using him or getting rolled by Chaox I forget which. Either way it's surprising how resistant he is to Graves who is pretty simple.
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We saw M5 do some innovative buff management at IEM. I would like to bring attention to the games where they give lane pirate red at level 1 and when they gave Urgot blue at level 1. What other champions do you guys think can become terrors in lane with a level 1 buff donation?
I played against a full AP rune Master Yi who got level 1 BB last night. He was a brick wall that occasionally extruded 200 damage Alpha Strikes.
In more serious games, Riven would be terrifying with a donated Red. Not only does she hit her level 2-3 sweetspot sooner, but she would stick even harder.
I didn't watch the games, but did the jungler just let the laner have his buff? Did they split the EXP? Did 3-4 of them do one buff, the jungler the other?
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korea so manner
"thank you for your time"
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On March 24 2012 00:43 nojitosunrise wrote:
korea so manner
"thank you for your time"
What you talking about, thats what everyone does when they get rolled over by a team who is trolling.
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Riven with red sounds really scary lvl 1. The only restraint I see on this is if she needs to teleport back to lane after getting it, having to run teleport over ignite will probably cost some kills in lane, but I'll try it tonight.
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not if you take your own red while your team steals red
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Does SV always do his small camps after a gank even when he is really low health? Seems like it from watching his stream and seems like another jungler could exploit that. For example SV ganks top low health after he kills top, does doubles then wraiths. Enemy jungler hides near wraiths and kills him. Not sure if he does this pattern in tourney games.
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If I build tiamat on kayle, do I get 90% AOE off AD + original magic dmg?
The passive shredding and any other onhit effects like black cleaver only applies to your target, correct?
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On March 24 2012 01:01 BlackMagister wrote:
Does SV always do his small camps after a gank even when he is really low health? Seems like it from watching his stream and seems like another jungler could exploit that. For example SV ganks top low health after he kills top, does doubles then wraiths. Enemy jungler hides near wraiths and kills him. Not sure if he does this pattern in tourney games.
Benifit exceeds the risk. Thats 100 gold that other junglers dont get by just backing. Not to mention its pretty hard to set up a gank like that, especially given that those paths to get there should be warded anyway.
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I know it's worth jungling at low health. Just one of those things that you might be able to exploit if you study an enemy team's play. Know where they place wards typically and gank or invade where there are holes in vision. This game specifically the path to CLG's wraiths was not warded so it was possible.
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On March 24 2012 00:48 Sabin010 wrote:
Riven with red sounds really scary lvl 1. The only restraint I see on this is if she needs to teleport back to lane after getting it, having to run teleport over ignite will probably cost some kills in lane, but I'll try it tonight.
Should start Yorick with blue. I don't know what it would accomplish, but it would be hilarious.
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On March 24 2012 01:10 BlackMagister wrote:
I know it's worth jungling at low health. Just one of those things that you might be able to exploit if you study an enemy team's play. Know where they place wards typically and gank or invade where there are holes in vision. This game specifically the path to CLG's wraiths was not warded so it was possible.
Well that's a lot of background checking and time taken for something that will most likely award nothing in your game. He will stop if you catch him a single time.
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On March 24 2012 01:08 nosliw wrote:
If I build tiamat on kayle, do I get 90% AOE off AD + original magic dmg?
The passive shredding and any other onhit effects like black cleaver only applies to your target, correct?
When e is active you are ranged and tiamat etc. are treated as such.
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On March 24 2012 01:08 Two_DoWn wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2012 01:01 BlackMagister wrote:
Does SV always do his small camps after a gank even when he is really low health? Seems like it from watching his stream and seems like another jungler could exploit that. For example SV ganks top low health after he kills top, does doubles then wraiths. Enemy jungler hides near wraiths and kills him. Not sure if he does this pattern in tourney games. Benifit exceeds the risk. Thats 100 gold that other junglers dont get by just backing. Not to mention its pretty hard to set up a gank like that, especially given that those paths to get there should be warded anyway.
This has happened to me a couple times. It's only risky if you lost your flash and didn't expect it. Makes you feel like a retard when it does happen but 95% of the time it doesn't, the 5% could be avoided by realizing it's possible and watching for it especially for suspicious misses on the minimap.
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On March 24 2012 00:39 BlackMagister wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2012 00:17 nojitosunrise wrote:
sv: "Why don't you practice graves bot lane?
double: "Because I'm not good with graves"
Doublelift has been resistant to Graves for a long time every since release when Doublelift said he wasn't OP. SV has been trying to force Doublelift to play him for a while too picking him for him one game. Then Doublelift goes "wow Graves is so retarded he snowballs so easily" which he said after using him or getting rolled by Chaox I forget which. Either way it's surprising how resistant he is to Graves who is pretty simple.
I think double doesn't like him because it doesn't fit his playstyle.
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On March 24 2012 01:17 mr_tolkien wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2012 01:10 BlackMagister wrote:
I know it's worth jungling at low health. Just one of those things that you might be able to exploit if you study an enemy team's play. Know where they place wards typically and gank or invade where there are holes in vision. This game specifically the path to CLG's wraiths was not warded so it was possible. Well that's a lot of background checking and time taken for something that will most likely award nothing in your game. He will stop if you catch him a single time.
A lot of top teams usually do a very good job of updating their players of where the jungle is, So if they saw nocturne like 15s ago on bot, that prolly means SV has a window of like 15s to do enemy jungle, on top, and so on.
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Does anybody know if there's an equivalent of lolking.net for the Korean server?
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On March 24 2012 02:14 arnath wrote:
Does anybody know if there's an equivalent of lolking.net for the Korean server?
http://www.fow.kr
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I don't get why Riot is changing a lot of champs from scaling with just AD to scaling off bonus AD. As long as the base damage is the same, shouldn't they do the same thing? No actually I get it. The ratio changed and the flat scaling didn't change enough.
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On March 24 2012 02:15 DURRHURRDERP wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2012 02:14 arnath wrote:
Does anybody know if there's an equivalent of lolking.net for the Korean server? http://www.fow.kr
Hm, this site doesn't seem to work for me. Anyways, I just want to know what runes Saint is running on his jungle Riven on Korean server. Anybody know?
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