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Remember guys, this is the general discussion thread. Keep whine/QQ posts in the appropriate QQ memorial thread! Thanks!
nojitosunrise
Profile Joined August 2011
United States6188 Posts
March 23 2012 14:13 GMT
#1161
CLG about to start some ranked 5s should be fun
Inschato
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Canada1349 Posts
March 23 2012 14:13 GMT
#1162
Lane pirate is a terror with either blue or red at level 1, just saying. Urgot probably with either as well. They are after all two of the strongest early game champions without buffs anyway.
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ihasaKAROT
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4730 Posts
March 23 2012 14:15 GMT
#1163
On March 23 2012 23:11 Solaris.playgu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2012 23:08 Two_DoWn wrote:
On March 23 2012 23:04 Solaris.playgu wrote:
Ok, that's good to know. But why not on LS? According to theoddone's guide I should, and I've had enough success with his other guides to trust him so far. I do find myself getting pretty low with vamp on him though, I just reckoned that was because I haven't been able to afford proper runes for him yet, so still running AS reds and MS quints which I need to change into armor penetration and flat AD.

Because LS doesnt want to farm, the main reason for grabbing a vamp cepter. He wants to gank.

And as a ganker, either boots or a dblade is going to assist what you want to do much better than a vamp cepter would. Hell, even cloth 5 is better to that end than a vamp cepter.


Sounds legit, I'll try that out then. Would you proceed into a lantern afterwards anyway?


I believe how SV like to jungle his LS (and I consider him one of the best at lee):

Boots + 3
Dorans
Dorans
Wriggles
Phage
Rest

In that order
KCCO!
TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-23 14:17:16
March 23 2012 14:15 GMT
#1164
The funny thing is you could start with a life orb(huehuehue) on trundle and ww,get no leash and still be at full hp after jungle clear.
Cackle™
Sabin010
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1892 Posts
March 23 2012 14:19 GMT
#1165
I wouldn't open dblade on LS if you're going to be doing a lot of early ganking. Cloth 5 pot will give you more health to gank at higher hp, some armour for more effective HP and is safer. Say you're blue side, you can go Wolves, Blue, give a how you doin' to enemy jungler at their wraiths, steal their red, steal the golem, gank top, gank mid, your wraiths, your red, your golems, gank the bottem and go back to buy, and evaluate the situation from there. The 5 potions will give you enough HP to accomplish all of this unless you take too much damage ganking. Early game showing up and just hitting an enemy solo laner a few times is enough to throw the lane into your teams favor.
ihasaKAROT
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4730 Posts
March 23 2012 14:32 GMT
#1166
CLG playing more relaxed now cus it isnt a real proper toptier scrim it seems. They just seem to perform better when theres no pressure like before vs MiG. They actually play good now, communication is better and alot less bitching.

Also chauster is playing LuLu
KCCO!
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-23 14:39:24
March 23 2012 14:39 GMT
#1167
On March 23 2012 23:13 mr_tolkien wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2012 23:04 Craton wrote:
On March 23 2012 22:59 Dandel Ion wrote:
Hm, I'm not that good a jungler, but a friend of mine is, and he said that you should go boots instead of vamp everytime, always now.

cloth 5 for a more farm heavy path.

This is the opposite for me >.> If you want to go farm heavy why would you wast precious gold on useless pots ? Grab a vampiric and afk in your jungle, or boots to run faster from camp to camp. Cloth 5 doesn't add anything to your clear times and makes you waste a lot of money in pots as well.

What runes do you run such that you have enough sustain to do runs through the jungle with just a vamp scepter on panth?
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
March 23 2012 14:44 GMT
#1168
On March 23 2012 23:39 obesechicken13 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2012 23:13 mr_tolkien wrote:
On March 23 2012 23:04 Craton wrote:
On March 23 2012 22:59 Dandel Ion wrote:
Hm, I'm not that good a jungler, but a friend of mine is, and he said that you should go boots instead of vamp everytime, always now.

cloth 5 for a more farm heavy path.

This is the opposite for me >.> If you want to go farm heavy why would you wast precious gold on useless pots ? Grab a vampiric and afk in your jungle, or boots to run faster from camp to camp. Cloth 5 doesn't add anything to your clear times and makes you waste a lot of money in pots as well.

What runes do you run such that you have enough sustain to do runs through the jungle with just a vamp scepter on panth?


On Pantheon? I don't think I'd start Vamp Scepter on panth... No way you get enough sustain. Not to mention, Pantheon not really a farmy jungler. As far as I am concerned only reason to run Panth in the jungle is to just kill lanes over and over again.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-23 14:45:44
March 23 2012 14:45 GMT
#1169
for learning lee sin jungling my tip would be to stalk diamondprox's games at IEM, pretty clearly the best Lee Sin jungle in the world(Voyboy might be better at top), but generally you want wriggles and atmallet and some survivability.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
March 23 2012 14:56 GMT
#1170
On March 23 2012 23:15 TheKefka wrote:
The funny thing is you could start with a life orb(huehuehue) on trundle and ww,get no leash and still be at full hp after jungle clear.

I'd still rather just go boots with 1ward and 1pot though. It's safer and you can place an early ward in the enemy jungle or for your top or mid lane to track the enemy jungle and open up possibilities for safer counter jungling. It's my favourite opening on WW.
mr_tolkien
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France8631 Posts
March 23 2012 15:03 GMT
#1171
Just realised that since Lulu was released, every single support player in the world is trying to master her.

I'd be happy to see players of other roles with such dedication !!!
The legend of Darien lives on
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
March 23 2012 15:07 GMT
#1172
On March 24 2012 00:03 mr_tolkien wrote:
Just realised that since Lulu was released, every single support player in the world is trying to master her.

I'd be happy to see players of other roles with such dedication !!!

Master? Just because they kinda seem to be doing well? She most likely is pretty damn OP, which makes her fun to play. That's all.
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
March 23 2012 15:07 GMT
#1173
On March 24 2012 00:07 spinesheath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2012 00:03 mr_tolkien wrote:
Just realised that since Lulu was released, every single support player in the world is trying to master her.

I'd be happy to see players of other roles with such dedication !!!

Master? Just because they kinda seem to be doing well? She most likely is pretty damn OP, which makes her fun to play. That's all.


I'd also argue that there aren't anywhere near as many support picks as there are... you know, erry other pick.
nojitosunrise
Profile Joined August 2011
United States6188 Posts
March 23 2012 15:17 GMT
#1174
sv: "Why don't you practice graves bot lane?
double: "Because I'm not good with graves"

Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
March 23 2012 15:22 GMT
#1175
On March 24 2012 00:17 nojitosunrise wrote:
sv: "Why don't you practice graves bot lane?
double: "Because I'm not good with graves"


I am 99% sure doublelift doesnt actually think. Like he has a brain, but it is missing some crucial synapses that the rest of us have that enable rational thought, decision making, and the general ability to NOT SOUND LIKE AN FING IDIOT.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
Seiuchi
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States931 Posts
March 23 2012 15:25 GMT
#1176
On March 24 2012 00:03 mr_tolkien wrote:
Just realised that since Lulu was released, every single support player in the world is trying to master her.

I'd be happy to see players of other roles with such dedication !!!


More like "Hey they released another support for the first time in forever thank god I get to play something new"
mr_tolkien
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France8631 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-23 15:29:42
March 23 2012 15:29 GMT
#1177
On March 24 2012 00:17 nojitosunrise wrote:
sv: "Why don't you practice graves bot lane?
double: "Because I'm not good with graves"

sv: "Chauster you know double is retarded, you should ward accordingly"

I'm beginning to like this guy.
The legend of Darien lives on
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17303 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-23 15:31:28
March 23 2012 15:31 GMT
#1178
On March 23 2012 23:13 mr_tolkien wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2012 23:04 Craton wrote:
On March 23 2012 22:59 Dandel Ion wrote:
Hm, I'm not that good a jungler, but a friend of mine is, and he said that you should go boots instead of vamp everytime, always now.

cloth 5 for a more farm heavy path.

This is the opposite for me >.> If you want to go farm heavy why would you wast precious gold on useless pots ? Grab a vampiric and afk in your jungle, or boots to run faster from camp to camp. Cloth 5 doesn't add anything to your clear times and makes you waste a lot of money in pots as well.

Cloth 5 isn't used much anymore, but vampiric scepter is very inflexible. If you get counterjungled and forced off your standard path, forced to reset on a camp to fight off an invade, try to gank and take damage, etc., you often can't continue clearing your jungle. If you do, you'll be so low that an invade is almost a guaranteed death.

The reason so many junglers open boots 3 these days is because its flexible and allows for both farming and ganking. I prefer boots 3 or rejuv pot on pretty much all of my junglers.
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Rixxe
Profile Joined July 2011
United Kingdom136 Posts
March 23 2012 15:35 GMT
#1179
Quick question as we are talking about junglers, why isnt trynda used more often in the jungle?
Technically hes got all the makings of a good jungler:
Sustain (Q)
Slow (W)
Gap Closer (E)
Ability to tower dive (R)
Plus stupid auto attack damage aswell. Seems like no one thinks of him as a A class jungler, why?
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Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-23 15:37:41
March 23 2012 15:36 GMT
#1180
Its risk reward. If vamp works, you will be ahead and in a great position. If it doesnt work, you wont.

Although to say it is any more riksy than regrowth pendant is wrong imo- you have a single pot vs none, but regrowth does less for you than a vamp does in any fighting situation, even in killing creeps.

On March 24 2012 00:35 Rixxe wrote:
Quick question as we are talking about junglers, why isnt trynda used more often in the jungle?
Technically hes got all the makings of a good jungler:
Sustain (Q)
Slow (W)
Gap Closer (E)
Ability to tower dive (R)
Plus stupid auto attack damage aswell. Seems like no one thinks of him as a A class jungler, why?

Slow. Really slow. Not to mention that his "sustain" should never actually be activated because you lose all of your clearing power. He was a much better jungler pre remake than he was post.
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