EPTAlso if the new hero is released with the numbers the wiki has then she will be xin zhao level broken.
[Patch 1.0.0.136: Lulu] General Discussion - Page 6
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rob.au
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Also if the new hero is released with the numbers the wiki has then she will be xin zhao level broken. | ||
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Dark_Chill
Canada3353 Posts
On March 20 2012 14:17 Craton wrote: You mean like how TF, Panth, and Noct are 100% unplayed? Please. TF became relatively unplayed, definitely no where near his former popularity. Just because they all have global ults doesn't mean they all react the same way. Shen will receive less play than he has now though if that happened, that's for sure. | ||
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overt
United States9006 Posts
On March 20 2012 14:20 anmolsinghmzn2009 wrote: they basically stated that they put all the ezreal tweaks they were thinking of on hold for now. I think it's very likely that they release his tweaks with his new skin. I wouldn't be surprised if he ends up getting one of those "here's some buffs and some nerfs" kind of updates that leads to him becoming weaker. Although Riot could make me happy and just straight buff him. | ||
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SoraLimit
Canada747 Posts
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On March 20 2012 14:25 overt wrote: I think it's very likely that they release his tweaks with his new skin. I wouldn't be surprised if he ends up getting one of those "here's some buffs and some nerfs" kind of updates that leads to him becoming weaker. Although Riot could make me happy and just straight buff him. tbh he's perfectly fine as is. he was played plenty in IEM. | ||
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overt
United States9006 Posts
On March 20 2012 14:26 wei2coolman wrote: tbh he's perfectly fine as is. he was played plenty in IEM. I agree and think he's fine too. But someone mentioned they were holding off on Ez tweaks and I'm assuming that he isn't just talking out of his ass. If Riot at some point said they were going to tweak stuff on him I think it'll be really minor and it'll likely come out the same patch as his upcoming legendary skin. Riot has a history of buffing or nerfing a champion just before a skin releases. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
surfing ez >> running ez. | ||
anmolsinghmzn2009
India1783 Posts
On March 20 2012 14:08 wei2coolman wrote: MaW is gunna be a huge metashift back into bruiser centric comps. I'm calling it now. The main weaknesses of bruisers were their weak scaling into late game, but with an item like MaW that has strong midgame(hex drinker), and strong lategame stats, I don't see how this item won't get nerfed. This is the new bruiser meta. wriggles - > phage ->hex drinker ->glacial shroud or atma's or randuins-> frozmallet->maw's- probably yeah. the thing is riot is still gonna be adding/changing more items so we'll have to wait and see how they interact with the existing ones. | ||
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GreenManalishi
Canada834 Posts
On March 20 2012 14:21 rob.au wrote: Riot have no idea what to do with supports for some reason. When your only interesting supports are janna/alistar don't nerf them til you make some more. Also if the new hero is released with the numbers the wiki has then she will be xin zhao level broken. She seems reasonable too me. If she wants CC, she can only level 1 of her nukes, and if she nukes with her E, then she can't shield. Overall, she seems versatile and interesting, but not over powered. None of her ratios are out of line or anything obvious. Her passive seems quite strong, but other then that none of her numbers stand out to me. I am guessing that her passive doesn't shoot through creeps balances out that it deals (3+2*lvl)*3 damage. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
 ,but semi viable.only 300base dmg + .7 ap ratio on 7 sec cooldown, that's pretty weak sauce, especially if you want to put her mid. Her saving grace in mid will be her strong autoattack damage, along with polymorph. | ||
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UniversalSnip
9871 Posts
On March 20 2012 14:17 Craton wrote: You mean like how TF, Panth, and Noct are 100% unplayed? Please. It's not really the same. Shen ult is really reactive, tf panth and noct ult you can go gank a lane with. If instead of shielding it did something that helped a gank, like ccing enemies next to the target, a range nerf wouldn't hurt that badly. | ||
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anmolsinghmzn2009
India1783 Posts
On March 20 2012 14:41 UniversalSnip wrote: It's not really the same. Shen ult is really reactive, tf panth and noct ult you can go gank a lane with. If instead of shielding it did something that helped a gank, like ccing enemies next to the target, a range nerf wouldn't hurt that badly. Shen can taunt someone near to the teammate as soon as he ports . . . Unless you mean cc as soon as shen's ult which will never happen because it has no counterplay. | ||
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PeZuY
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ManyCookies
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Tooplark
United States3977 Posts
On March 20 2012 14:49 PeZuY wrote: I wish Shaco was nerfed a bit more, such a silly character. Or then it's just that I can't counter it ever. What do you do against Shaco? A couple things you can do: Figure out if he's starting red or blue. Try and get your team to invade his jungle. Even if you just pop his boxes and get out, you'll slow him down a lot. Watch out for level 2 ganks, especially if you're close to the buff camp he started at. Ward aggressively in his jungle. If you're jungling yourself, and you feel secure doing so, go counterjungle him. Time his buffs and take them yourself. Basically, even if Shaco gets 2-3 kills by the time laning is over, he's still dead weight in teamfights if your team doesn't totally hurp things around. | ||
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GreenManalishi
Canada834 Posts
On March 20 2012 14:55 ManyCookies wrote: Lulu mid actually beat me fairly decisively as Swain, although I was playing badly. Her QE combo does quite a bit of damage (160+1.3 damage at level 2 is pretty damn good) and is essentially instant, and her auto-attack harass is pretty good. Not to mention Polymorph, which is pretty low mana-wise for such a strong ability (on her or y). Not suure how well she'd do outside of laning, but she could probably function well as a Zilean-like support AP. Zilean is likely going to be more powerful outside of laning. Only needs to rank 1 ability to get 2 nukes with .9 scaling, has possibly the most powerful ultimate in the game, and one of the strongest speed buffs/slows in the game. Lulu just doesn't have the ratios to be viable as a mid imo. EG is scrimming 4not + Dan right now. | ||
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broz0rs
United States2294 Posts
On March 20 2012 13:37 WaveofShadow wrote: "Though Lulu is a support, I play her as a jungler." Well done, Phreak. I wish I could buy that man a drink. | ||
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triplej
United States47 Posts
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Vequeth
United Kingdom1116 Posts
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GreenManalishi
Canada834 Posts
On March 20 2012 15:10 triplej wrote: Are mana regen seals needed on mids now? I was about to replace my scaling MR seals with scaling AP :c The flat mana component of Blue is where most of the regen comes from early game. The change in mana regen isn't going to be big enough to make flat mp5 seals necessary. That said, I like them on mana hungry mid champions. I am only 1800, and mid is my worst lane, so take it with a grain of salt. | ||
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