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57 Corvette
Canada5941 Posts
On April 07 2012 10:05 warscythes wrote: Eh, Kayle will probably still be underpowered, She isn't underpowered. She is just a jack-of-all-trades-master-of-none type of champion. Sure she can fill in any role on the team, but she isn't equal to the normal champions of each role. She trades off a dedicated role for a little bit of everything. | ||
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petered
United States1817 Posts
On April 07 2012 10:17 iCanada wrote: It also makes solo laner much less powerful in that it is much harder for say a Sion to go bot and snowball because even if he does get a kill he gets less experience from it than he would before. I like it. I wonder if they changing Nautilus' W procs because it has the same "bug" or mechanic as Teemo poison as well. I think the naut part is meant to work like that. Says in his tooltip or something. I really hope teemo isn't too strong this patch. I understand the game will never be perfectly balanced, but it is a lot more fun when the op champs don't include teemo. I feel like roaming gameplay might make a return. You can get ali/blitz running between jungle and top/bot just being a jerk, then still advance in levels from the assists. | ||
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obesechicken13
United States10467 Posts
Buff isn't that big. her Q still sucks. It doesn't make sense to nerf defense over offence because offence affects how you do damage to every other target which allows mages to do their jobs. If offence is equal in strength to defense then you can build offensively, win trades, and snowball ahead to have so much offensive power you can kill anyone on the enemy team. The same can't be said of defense. | ||
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Zhiroo
Kosovo2724 Posts
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ManyCookies
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jadoth
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Gahlo
United States35162 Posts
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UniversalSnip
9871 Posts
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Glaceau
Wales333 Posts
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Gahlo
United States35162 Posts
On April 07 2012 11:39 UniversalSnip wrote: Yeah after seeing today's games... kog'maw is gonna get nerfed. He's supposed to deal this much damage because he's easy to get to but it's just too easy to protect him for that to work out. Half the games with him there wasn't even a protect comp, they just picked tanky guys to stand in the way. How does ryze olaf mundo peel for kog? That isn't a protect comp. Instant snare and heavy slows. It's one of those things where if you have a competent team it looks broken as all hell but if you don't, it's garbage. | ||
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Spaceball
United States213 Posts
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phyvo
United States5635 Posts
On April 07 2012 10:43 petered wrote: I think the naut part is meant to work like that. Says in his tooltip or something. I really hope teemo isn't too strong this patch. I understand the game will never be perfectly balanced, but it is a lot more fun when the op champs don't include teemo. I feel like roaming gameplay might make a return. You can get ali/blitz running between jungle and top/bot just being a jerk, then still advance in levels from the assists. Riot is actually quite aware of how Naut's W works currently, at the time of release they designed it that way on purpose. It's still always possible a stealth change might make it through, but they'd have to consciously change the champ to do that. Most likely. | ||
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UniversalSnip
9871 Posts
On April 07 2012 11:51 Gahlo wrote: Instant snare and heavy slows. It's one of those things where if you have a competent team it looks broken as all hell but if you don't, it's garbage. Do you even know what I'm talking about? I'm pretty sure the teams at ipl4 are competent. | ||
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Gahlo
United States35162 Posts
On April 07 2012 12:00 UniversalSnip wrote: Do you even know what I'm talking about? I'm pretty sure the teams at ipl4 are competent. So snaring and putting heavy slows on people diving your carry doesn't count as peeling for him? Either way not everybody plays at IPL level with IPL caliber teammates. | ||
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UniversalSnip
9871 Posts
On April 07 2012 12:21 Gahlo wrote: So snaring and putting heavy slows on people diving your carry doesn't count as peeling for him? Either way not everybody plays at IPL level with IPL caliber teammates. I assumed you meant the opposing team. I'm extremely skeptical of the doesn't work in pubs argument, both because I don't think it's true and because broken competitive strats that don't work in pubs should still be nerfed. And no, ryze mundo olaf are garbage peelers. | ||
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
really unhappy about the exp change, I think it helps the game as an esport, but I'm not a fan of comeback mechanics. I guess we will see how strong it is in the end. On the other hand it actually sounds like a much needed change for support. | ||
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
On April 07 2012 10:39 57 Corvette wrote: She isn't underpowered. She is just a jack-of-all-trades-master-of-none type of champion. Sure she can fill in any role on the team, but she isn't equal to the normal champions of each role. She trades off a dedicated role for a little bit of everything. Umm. Jack of all trades characters (almost) never work. I.E. Spellpower Ret paladin (wow) Tri-Sorc (Diablo2, unless you have tals, then its viable but not great) (also various other hybrid builds blow) Mario (SSBM) (also see, Luigi) Klobb (Goldeneye) ETC Sometimes a Jack of all trades character gets temporarily buffed into OPness because they become viable in a single role while still being mediocre+ at the other role(imagine Kayle with Ryze's AP power, but maintaining the same sustain/supportiness, another example would be making Annie's shield way better, and able to be placed on any team member). | ||
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Kenpachi
United States9908 Posts
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phyvo
United States5635 Posts
Varus at PAX, includes skill tooltips. | ||
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0123456789
United States3216 Posts
On April 07 2012 13:03 Kenpachi wrote: why is duoqueueing more effective than soloqueueing through low elo? The logic behind it is, it's easier to carry 3 people than it is to carry 4 people. Also, when are the new champions coming out? In how many weeks? | ||
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