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Remember guys, this is the general discussion thread. Keep whine/QQ posts in the appropriate QQ memorial thread! Thanks!
mr_tolkien
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France8631 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-20 20:36:22
March 20 2012 20:02 GMT
#321
On March 21 2012 04:58 Two_DoWn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2012 04:55 mr_tolkien wrote:
On March 21 2012 04:50 Two_DoWn wrote:
Dudes: neo hath spoken: use ye olde lol stream and scrims and randome bouts threade.

But now I want to speak about the viability of Olaf after having seen him old his lane 1v2 very well and then be a huge asset to his team later in the game thanks to true damage...

Which isn't related to stream discussion T3T

While I am not neo, Im fairly sure he would say something along the lines of:

If it is something that can actually be broken down in terms of olaf's effectiveness in the current meta, it should be in the olaf thread or this one.

If its "hey look how cool dyrus is for holding a lane 1v2 in this game with olaf" probably should go in ye olde lol stream and scrims and randome bouts threade.

Which is neither. You won't talk about the viability of Olaf in the big picture of LoL in the Olaf thread since not an Olaf related question but a composition/picks related question.
The legend of Darien lives on
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
March 20 2012 20:06 GMT
#322
so i think lulu is pretty great, super fun
i think riot did some good work making sure that her utility spells were not her damage spells, giving you incentive to level them up evenly instead of maxing 1 or the other. this makes her a better support than AP. (i.e. the slow on her Q is a ridiculous 80% at level 1 but doesn't increase with level. but it's also her damage nuke so you're encouraged to level other skills instead, making her a more rounded support)

she's a good mix of zilean + karma, in fact i think she can basically be the support that they wanted karma to be, and they can move karma to a pure AP role now.

since karma has no ult, they just need to buff her skills to do 6 levels worth of damage instead of 5 levels worth of damage through 6 levels, and give her an extra mantra charge and boom, she's a normal AP champ now

good work riot
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
triplej
Profile Joined May 2011
United States47 Posts
March 20 2012 20:14 GMT
#323
Speaking of Swain, what do people usually max first on him? Seems like Q is the way to go, but I've also heard arguments for E.
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21245 Posts
March 20 2012 20:15 GMT
#324
Definitely E it's your main source of damage an scales great with levels.
TranslatorBaa!
TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
March 20 2012 20:15 GMT
#325
On March 21 2012 05:14 triplej wrote:
Speaking of Swain, what do people usually max first on him? Seems like Q is the way to go, but I've also heard arguments for E.

E is where your damage comes from,always max E first.
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ManyCookies
Profile Joined December 2010
1164 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-20 20:21:25
March 20 2012 20:16 GMT
#326
Definitely E. It doesn't rely on tether (which means you can cast it from a further distance), does only a bit less damage, and boosts your Q, AA and later ultimate damage.


Also, the Korean announcer sounds kind of... bored to me.

EDIT:

http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?p=22262467#post22262467

Additionally, his attack frame will be getting an update so he has an easier time last hitting early on in the game.


Oh HELL yes. I don't even care about the mana drain on his ult anymore, that makes my day.
clickrush
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Switzerland3257 Posts
March 20 2012 20:20 GMT
#327
On March 21 2012 05:06 gtrsrs wrote:
so i think lulu is pretty great, super fun
i think riot did some good work making sure that her utility spells were not her damage spells, giving you incentive to level them up evenly instead of maxing 1 or the other. this makes her a better support than AP. (i.e. the slow on her Q is a ridiculous 80% at level 1 but doesn't increase with level. but it's also her damage nuke so you're encouraged to level other skills instead, making her a more rounded support)

she's a good mix of zilean + karma, in fact i think she can basically be the support that they wanted karma to be, and they can move karma to a pure AP role now.

since karma has no ult, they just need to buff her skills to do 6 levels worth of damage instead of 5 levels worth of damage through 6 levels, and give her an extra mantra charge and boom, she's a normal AP champ now

good work riot


the lulu - karma comparison is kinda weird. If anything I would compare her to janna, with her shield, cc and knockback.

But I agree that her kit is very well designed in theory (as expected). Some of her spells seem to be more situational than others, like W on ally cast but things like that make for interesting decision making. She is also the first ranged support with a long hardcc, which I really like. Her ult looks very interesting too. I bet were gonna see alot of Lulus running around in the next few months just because everyone is bored of playing the same couple supports for such a long time. I'am looking forward to play her as well because I like ranged supports much more.
oGsMC: Zealot defense, Stalker attack, Sentry forcefieldu forcefieldu, Marauder die die
Sandster
Profile Joined November 2006
United States4054 Posts
March 20 2012 20:27 GMT
#328
On March 21 2012 05:06 gtrsrs wrote:
so i think lulu is pretty great, super fun
i think riot did some good work making sure that her utility spells were not her damage spells, giving you incentive to level them up evenly instead of maxing 1 or the other. this makes her a better support than AP. (i.e. the slow on her Q is a ridiculous 80% at level 1 but doesn't increase with level. but it's also her damage nuke so you're encouraged to level other skills instead, making her a more rounded support)

she's a good mix of zilean + karma, in fact i think she can basically be the support that they wanted karma to be, and they can move karma to a pure AP role now.

since karma has no ult, they just need to buff her skills to do 6 levels worth of damage instead of 5 levels worth of damage through 6 levels, and give her an extra mantra charge and boom, she's a normal AP champ now

good work riot


We have almost no utility/AP-carry hybrids in the game. Zilean and Orianna are the closest we have, and adding more semi-carry/utility champs like Karma can make the game a lot more interesting.

It's the conscious decision to sacrifice late game damage for more utility. This would be especially good if these guys can survive top lane, or if the AP-mid meta shifts, so you can have this guy along with the standard ad bruiser+ad+ap+support.
arnath
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1317 Posts
March 20 2012 20:27 GMT
#329
Does anybody know what this game CLG.eu and aAa are about to play? Looks like some sort of AL organized thing but I don't see anything on their website about it.
Praetorial
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States4241 Posts
March 20 2012 20:29 GMT
#330
On March 21 2012 00:38 lurked wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2012 20:17 Praetorial wrote:
On March 20 2012 19:36 Erasme wrote:
fuck, free Ori week means i'll see more brainless idiot playing her.


So far I've seen about two decent ones(this week).

As for the rest...it's painful to even talk about how badly they were feeding.


"This week"?

This free Orianna week started yesterday, let those free Orianna legions get to you before to think you're meeting bad ones? ^^


I've been pulling allnighters due to having a momentary school break.
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-Zoda-
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
France3578 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-20 20:41:43
March 20 2012 20:35 GMT
#331
On March 21 2012 05:27 arnath wrote:
Does anybody know what this game CLG.eu and aAa are about to play? Looks like some sort of AL organized thing but I don't see anything on their website about it.

Dunno what it is for but it's organised by the two french guys of King of Europe.
Edit: Okay my bad, they prolly just rebroadcast it.
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nojitosunrise
Profile Joined August 2011
United States6188 Posts
March 20 2012 20:40 GMT
#332
On March 21 2012 05:27 arnath wrote:
Does anybody know what this game CLG.eu and aAa are about to play? Looks like some sort of AL organized thing but I don't see anything on their website about it.


AL proleague

http://www.absolutelegends.net/The-Leagues-APL-AAL
Shifft
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada1085 Posts
March 20 2012 20:55 GMT
#333
Man, Lulu ult baits kids harder than anything I've ever seen before. Knockup + aoe slow on a 3-600 heal that ignores ignite so goooddddd.
=O
Juicyfruit
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada5484 Posts
March 20 2012 21:00 GMT
#334
I can't check the information myself: is Lulu's W (polymorph) affected by tenacity? :X
GranDim
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
Canada1214 Posts
March 20 2012 21:01 GMT
#335
yes.

Also, did anyone else leave the login screen on just to let the music loop a few times?
nojitosunrise
Profile Joined August 2011
United States6188 Posts
March 20 2012 21:06 GMT
#336
On March 21 2012 06:01 GranDim wrote:
yes.

Also, did anyone else leave the login screen on just to let the music loop a few times?



I believe Praeco is responsible for the music

http://www.youtube.com/user/officialpraeco

Trowa127
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom1230 Posts
March 20 2012 21:07 GMT
#337
Can't wait for EU to go live I wanna play Lulu!
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Chiharu Harukaze
Profile Joined September 2011
12112 Posts
March 20 2012 21:07 GMT
#338
On March 21 2012 06:06 nojitosunrise wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2012 06:01 GranDim wrote:
yes.

Also, did anyone else leave the login screen on just to let the music loop a few times?



I believe Praeco is responsible for the music

http://www.youtube.com/user/officialpraeco


Your belief is correct.
It's like, "Is the Federation's Mobile Suit some kind of monster?"
JBright
Profile Joined September 2010
Vancouver14381 Posts
March 20 2012 21:09 GMT
#339
http://www.hltv.org/forum/117965-taz-about-csgo-live

More newcomers into competitive LoL? I don't follow CS that closely so I have no idea who Taz and Neo are. CS:GO still has a ways to go so Valve can make improvements to keep them in playing CS.
ModeratorThe good and the wise lead quiet lives. Neo's #1 Frenemy and nightmare.
RouaF
Profile Joined October 2010
France4121 Posts
March 20 2012 21:17 GMT
#340
b tier team stomping clg.eu who are clearly overrated
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