EPT[Patch 1.0.0.136: Lulu] General Discussion - Page 136
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dooraven
Australia2820 Posts
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Dandel Ion
Austria17960 Posts
On April 01 2012 03:21 Gorsameth wrote: I assume its because of the blue changes forcing anivia to actualy get some form of mana to sustain long enough. y, but usually he just gets tear + chalice, which synergizes really well into tons of mana. I didn't see the start of the game, but I suppose he felt like he needed the HP+heal from catalyst | ||
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Niton
United States2395 Posts
On April 01 2012 03:24 Dandel Ion wrote: y, but usually he just gets tear + chalice, which synergizes really well into tons of mana. I didn't see the start of the game, but I suppose he felt like he needed the HP+heal from catalyst I think the way he gets Chalice is fantastic - he gets it fairly early, when its mana is more valuable than any 1k dps item, then replaces it in the lategame when it's the choice between the 900g chalice or the 3600g deathcap. Maybe with the blue nerf more players will figure out how absurd it is. | ||
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Innuendo
Belgium616 Posts
edit: nvm just realised this is just the first game | ||
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Two_DoWn
United States13684 Posts
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Dandel Ion
Austria17960 Posts
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iCanada
Canada10660 Posts
Playing Riven? Build dat SV. | ||
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Two_DoWn
United States13684 Posts
On April 01 2012 04:04 Dandel Ion wrote: Comparing 2/3 jungler whos team loses hard with a 5/1 jungler that can farm as he pleases because everything on his team wins. Real. A) I said cs. B) You obviously dont know how mundo works. | ||
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barbsq
United States5348 Posts
On April 01 2012 02:53 TheKefka wrote: Well its not just about slowing people,in fact,I don't even get to finish a frozen malet a lot of times. After I finish wits,randuins,boots and phage along with getting a oracles,it's already 28-35 mins into the game and I'm looking to build something like a negatron into fon or another chain west more often than a FM.I'm not saying FM on udyr is a priority but If you find yourself in the late game and trying to build your phage into soemthing than FM is the superior option than a trinity imo.I was just saying that a FM on udyr isn't that stupid but rushing it is. Late game is all about slot efficiency, so FM means you're spending a slot on a pittance of damage (useless), a bunch of hp (also significantly less useful due to turtle + hp you already have), and the 100% slow chance, which honestly isn't that useful either, since a bear stance stun pretty much guarantees that you're gonna get more slow procs with even just a phage. Basically, if you're buying FM at end game, it's only because of the slow, so you should evaluate whether nearly 2k gold for that extra %chance to slow is worth the cost and the slot. When i get FM, it's because i want an early HP buffer in addition to the slow, and typically why if i get FM, it's my 2nd or 3rd big-ticket item, when the HP is substantially more useful. (i.e. wriggles/wits/mallet sorts of builds, altho cutlass/wits/mallet has been quite appealing to me for a few champs, but diff discussion) | ||
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Dandel Ion
Austria17960 Posts
On April 01 2012 04:05 Two_DoWn wrote: A) I said cs. B) You obviously dont know how mundo works. His team loses, so he has to gank, camp (and die) a lot, so he can't farm as much. Dunno what your point even is. | ||
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iCanada
Canada10660 Posts
On April 01 2012 04:07 Dandel Ion wrote: His team loses, so he has to gank, camp (and die) a lot, so he can't farm as much. Dunno what your point even is. You played Mundo/Moakai before? Mundo clears like 500x faster. | ||
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Dandel Ion
Austria17960 Posts
On April 01 2012 04:08 iCanada wrote: You played Mundo/Moakai before? Mundo clears like 500x faster. I give up. You win, gz | ||
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Two_DoWn
United States13684 Posts
And Mundo should have WELL more CS than a Maokai. No matter what. If you dont, then you are playing the champion INCREDIBLY wrong. Its basically the same as playing Lee Sin or Maokai and never ganking. You dont pick Mundo to gank. You pick him to double the cs of the enemy jungle. Thats why Im saying you dont know how mundo works. Because you dont. And neither does this AL dude. | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23442 Posts
EDIT: He died 5 more times as well so we're looking at close to 200 cs if he didn't die at because they were losing the game. | ||
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Craton
United States17303 Posts
Don't know why you all want to argue one extreme vs the other until you're blue in the face. | ||
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vasculaR
Malaysia791 Posts
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Slayer91
Ireland23442 Posts
On April 01 2012 04:18 Craton wrote: You're all wrong as far as I'm concerned. Junglers having to spend more time helping lanes does impact the amount of farm they get. You also get to grab additional CS from a lane after a successful gank. Mundo does also clear faster than Mao, especially when Mao doesn't have blue (aka most of the time), so he can offset this a bit. Don't know why you all want to argue one extreme vs the other until you're blue in the face. I agree, wasting time and investing time are different things. Malunoo does a lot of things I intially think are wasting time but later on it seems to make a lot of sense. | ||
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Resolve
Singapore679 Posts
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iCanada
Canada10660 Posts
On April 01 2012 04:18 Craton wrote: You're all wrong as far as I'm concerned. Junglers having to spend more time helping lanes does impact the amount of farm they get. You also get to grab additional CS from a lane after a successful gank. Mundo does also clear faster than Mao, especially when Mao doesn't have blue (aka most of the time), so he can offset this a bit. Don't know why you all want to argue one extreme vs the other until you're blue in the face. This is true, but Mundo just clear so damn fast. I honestly don't think Mundo should be behind anyone at any stage in game. Creeps just die so fast... Have I emphasized how fast mundo kills stuff? <_< | ||
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Redox
Germany24794 Posts
On April 01 2012 04:10 Two_DoWn wrote: If both Snoopeh AND whoever the al jungle is have kills and deaths, then they are both ganking. So your first point is moot. And Mundo should have WELL more CS than a Maokai. No matter what. If you dont, then you are playing the champion INCREDIBLY wrong. Its basically the same as playing Lee Sin or Maokai and never ganking. You dont pick Mundo to gank. You pick him to double the cs of the enemy jungle. Thats why Im saying you dont know how mundo works. Because you dont. And neither does this AL dude. Hahahaha probably your most retarded post yet. It is really funny how you come to the most hyperbolic conclusions after seeing snippets from a single game. | ||
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