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On April 01 2012 01:03 emucxg wrote:Show nested quote +On April 01 2012 01:00 iCanada wrote:On April 01 2012 00:57 Slayer91 wrote:On April 01 2012 00:55 iCanada wrote:On April 01 2012 00:53 nojitosunrise wrote:
TOO's udyr leaves much to be desired All of TOO's farmy junglers leave a lot to be desired. He just doesn't... farm. Did you see last teamfight? His AP carry was in the middle of the fight, dyrus correctly jumps in with him, he runs after a mundo with ult, stuns for once when CC reduction for like .6 seconds, realizes he can't do damage or chase a mundo, runs in and stuns a kog maw and snipes the kill when he was going to die anyway.. if he was in the fight from the start he would have ignored chaox and cleaned up the squishies and then help chaox. He didn't really do anything to help chaox anyway since the stun is so insignificant, if he was maokai, sure. I not watching, just never seen him farm for shit. I seen him lose in farm to SV's Shen as Shyvana. Made my brain cry. gank and farm, why cant have both? good junglers like m5's can farm and gank even saint is very good at ganks
I know you can do both.
TOO just bad at the new jungle. He was fiirst to do awesome stuff like time very buff, ward/counterward and stuff, which is awesome. he has a great stream that is very informative... he just hasn't adapted at all to the new jungle.
He stuck in old jungle mentality and it painful to watch.He farms poorly and spends half his gold on wards for every lane while using his time inefficiently. He usually the least farmed player in the game, and is just useless as hell come 20 minutes. I like TOO (although, he a touch annoying...) but he just not that good imo.
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OddOne would be great if he just realized that junglers like Maokai and Allistar are the ones that fit what his team wants and what he does.
Why is he building wits end on nocturne? Is it any good? I thought nocturne had good attack speed already from his w so I just go straight for frozen mallet.
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Wits end is great, it's 40% AS AND 42 attack damage. Frozen mallet just for more tank builds to initiate.
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On April 01 2012 00:54 Slayer91 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 01 2012 00:53 nojitosunrise wrote:
TOO's udyr leaves much to be desired He just runs around doing nothing useful sometimes sniping kills with bear stun. Lol, he's even rushing frozen mallet which is an awful udyr item cause health is his worst defensive stat.
I see SV, Lapaka and a few other high elo Udyr junglers buy Mallet quite a lot lately. It definitely feels pretty useful if you trying to dive carries, though obviously a lot of things you could buy for 3k would be useful.
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KArthus so overpowered TT
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On April 01 2012 01:57 OreoBoi wrote:
OddOne would be great if he just realized that junglers like Maokai and Allistar are the ones that fit what his team wants and what he does.
Why is he building wits end on nocturne? Is it any good? I thought nocturne had good attack speed already from his w so I just go straight for frozen mallet.
Wit's end is actually quite handy on nocturne in certain match-ups. Remember back when he was op, everyone got youmoo's, because the AS scale extremely well with his passive, which allow for more sustain along with the MS it provided. Given the fact that everyone now runs on reverie on your support, you can switch to wit's end, if you're facing a double AP combo, however i won't deny that the new hexdrinker upgrade (whatever the fuck it's called), could be a better purchase, but you would still lack AS. His W just won't cut it.
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Well TSM did surprisingly good against AL, one of the best euro teams. I would not want to critisize them after that one. They are clearly improving since adding Dyrus.
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On April 01 2012 01:54 iCanada wrote:Show nested quote +On April 01 2012 01:03 emucxg wrote:On April 01 2012 01:00 iCanada wrote:On April 01 2012 00:57 Slayer91 wrote:On April 01 2012 00:55 iCanada wrote:On April 01 2012 00:53 nojitosunrise wrote:
TOO's udyr leaves much to be desired All of TOO's farmy junglers leave a lot to be desired. He just doesn't... farm. Did you see last teamfight? His AP carry was in the middle of the fight, dyrus correctly jumps in with him, he runs after a mundo with ult, stuns for once when CC reduction for like .6 seconds, realizes he can't do damage or chase a mundo, runs in and stuns a kog maw and snipes the kill when he was going to die anyway.. if he was in the fight from the start he would have ignored chaox and cleaned up the squishies and then help chaox. He didn't really do anything to help chaox anyway since the stun is so insignificant, if he was maokai, sure. I not watching, just never seen him farm for shit. I seen him lose in farm to SV's Shen as Shyvana. Made my brain cry. gank and farm, why cant have both? good junglers like m5's can farm and gank even saint is very good at ganks I know you can do both. TOO just bad at the new jungle. He was fiirst to do awesome stuff like time very buff, ward/counterward and stuff, which is awesome. he has a great stream that is very informative... he just hasn't adapted at all to the new jungle. He stuck in old jungle mentality and it painful to watch.He farms poorly and spends half his gold on wards for every lane while using his time inefficiently. He usually the least farmed player in the game, and is just useless as hell come 20 minutes. I like TOO (although, he a touch annoying...) but he just not that good imo.
Oddone hasn't played well in a while, but regi is the clear worst player on TSM imo. I usually refrain from blaming individual players, but regi consistently makes terrible plays that directly lead to losses. He used to be able to rely on his superior skills to dominate his lane, but the rest of the pro world has caught up to him in mechanics. Then they also have much better awareness of team strategy. Regi is still stuck in his world of trying to kill his lane opponent with no consideration for team strategy.
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On April 01 2012 02:04 Gondlem wrote:Show nested quote +On April 01 2012 00:54 Slayer91 wrote:On April 01 2012 00:53 nojitosunrise wrote:
TOO's udyr leaves much to be desired He just runs around doing nothing useful sometimes sniping kills with bear stun. Lol, he's even rushing frozen mallet which is an awful udyr item cause health is his worst defensive stat. I see SV, Lapaka and a few other high elo Udyr junglers buy Mallet quite a lot lately. It definitely feels pretty useful if you trying to dive carries, though obviously a lot of things you could buy for 3k would be useful.
They get wits end and randuins before at least not getting it first item, having no resists on udyr just makes me ask you why you're even playing the champion.
You can't dive carries with frozen mallet, you still get slowed just as badly and your 1v1ing potential isn't high with it.The reason you get it is to be more of a cc bot later on just slowing whoever you hit to help your AD carry, would prefer to secure red buff if you're so fed that you can dive anyone and build either trinity if you want damage or frozen heart or force of nature or something otherwise.
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Shen camps top and forfeits a ton of farm to put irelia back in the lane after Dyrus' massive lead.
Reginald does what Reginald does and wastes 5 full mins of OddOnes time demanding dives mid. Must dive mid, top being pushed, bot being pushed, karthus playing passive, must dive mid anyway, over and over.
And now we begin the Dyrus apologising and Reginald trashtalking phase again.
Anyone starting to get that I don't like Reginald?
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On April 01 2012 02:04 Gondlem wrote:Show nested quote +On April 01 2012 00:54 Slayer91 wrote:On April 01 2012 00:53 nojitosunrise wrote:
TOO's udyr leaves much to be desired He just runs around doing nothing useful sometimes sniping kills with bear stun. Lol, he's even rushing frozen mallet which is an awful udyr item cause health is his worst defensive stat. I see SV, Lapaka and a few other high elo Udyr junglers buy Mallet quite a lot lately. It definitely feels pretty useful if you trying to dive carries, though obviously a lot of things you could buy for 3k would be useful.
actually Slayer91 might be better udyr than any of them u mentioned, just sayin
www.lolking.net/summoner/euw/20744583
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It's only a matter of time before either people start leaving TSM or people start getting kicked out. I honestly think TOO would be a good jungler if he didn't have Reginald bossing him into making dumb plays.
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On April 01 2012 02:14 emucxg wrote:Show nested quote +On April 01 2012 02:04 Gondlem wrote:On April 01 2012 00:54 Slayer91 wrote:On April 01 2012 00:53 nojitosunrise wrote:
TOO's udyr leaves much to be desired He just runs around doing nothing useful sometimes sniping kills with bear stun. Lol, he's even rushing frozen mallet which is an awful udyr item cause health is his worst defensive stat. I see SV, Lapaka and a few other high elo Udyr junglers buy Mallet quite a lot lately. It definitely feels pretty useful if you trying to dive carries, though obviously a lot of things you could buy for 3k would be useful. actually Slayer91 might be better udyr than any of them u mentioned, just sayin www.lolking.net/summoner/euw/20744583
The page is wrong at least somewhat my skarner is second most played and it's not even on the list wtf? Irelia should be in front onf nasus and riven also. Or maybe it's going by winrate.
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On April 01 2012 02:12 TheLink wrote:
Shen camps top and forfeits a ton of farm to put irelia back in the lane after Dyrus' massive lead.
Reginald does what Reginald does and wastes 5 full mins of OddOnes time demanding dives mid. Must dive mid, top being pushed, bot being pushed, karthus playing passive, must dive mid anyway, over and over.
And now we begin the Dyrus apologising and Reginald trashtalking phase again.
Anyone starting to get that I don't like Reginald?
I'm with you man, I'm a Reginald hater. I think he is the one holding TSM back.
Just look at that last game. Second blue comes up and top lane irelia goes down to contest it. Regi clears mid wave to go get blue, but sees karthus getting low and gets aggressive. Shen ganks mid. Regi TURNS AROUND, pops ult, and tries to kill karthus. Boom, first blood to karthus, assist to shen, blue to irelia. Game changing moment all because regi thought he could 1v2.
If he runs, uses ult to get away rather than engage, then he is pretty much guaranteed to get away. No first blood, they can contest blue, etc. It all comes down to decision making.
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On April 01 2012 02:19 Slayer91 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 01 2012 02:14 emucxg wrote:On April 01 2012 02:04 Gondlem wrote:On April 01 2012 00:54 Slayer91 wrote:On April 01 2012 00:53 nojitosunrise wrote:
TOO's udyr leaves much to be desired He just runs around doing nothing useful sometimes sniping kills with bear stun. Lol, he's even rushing frozen mallet which is an awful udyr item cause health is his worst defensive stat. I see SV, Lapaka and a few other high elo Udyr junglers buy Mallet quite a lot lately. It definitely feels pretty useful if you trying to dive carries, though obviously a lot of things you could buy for 3k would be useful. actually Slayer91 might be better udyr than any of them u mentioned, just sayin www.lolking.net/summoner/euw/20744583 The page is wrong at least somewhat my skarner is second most played and it's not even on the list wtf? Irelia should be in front onf nasus and riven also. Or maybe it's going by winrate.
Site is weird, sometimes champs or whole summoner profiles are missing
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Reginald talks too much, but he's not a bad player I don't think. I mean his mechanics are fine, he just makes bad calls and blames others at times.
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reginald baylifes every game and screws tsm
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On April 01 2012 02:22 Nos- wrote:
Reginald talks too much, but he's not a bad player I don't think. I mean his mechanics are fine, he just makes bad calls and blames others at times.
Exactly my point. At one time in the history of LoL good mechanics made you a good player. I think those days are over personally, hence I think regi is a bad player because he makes bad calls and blames others.
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On April 01 2012 02:14 emucxg wrote:Show nested quote +On April 01 2012 02:04 Gondlem wrote:On April 01 2012 00:54 Slayer91 wrote:On April 01 2012 00:53 nojitosunrise wrote:
TOO's udyr leaves much to be desired He just runs around doing nothing useful sometimes sniping kills with bear stun. Lol, he's even rushing frozen mallet which is an awful udyr item cause health is his worst defensive stat. I see SV, Lapaka and a few other high elo Udyr junglers buy Mallet quite a lot lately. It definitely feels pretty useful if you trying to dive carries, though obviously a lot of things you could buy for 3k would be useful. actually Slayer91 might be better udyr than any of them u mentioned, just sayin www.lolking.net/summoner/euw/20744583
Yeah, wasn't like I was calling him out or anything, just noting that I've seen it a lot recently and it's interesting to me because it never seemed like a spectacularly strong item on Udyr.
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