EPTThe alternative is not buying phage at all but I don't think that's the best idea,yea randuins does a good job at slowing people but it does have a cooldown after all.
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TheKefka
Croatia11752 Posts
The alternative is not buying phage at all but I don't think that's the best idea,yea randuins does a good job at slowing people but it does have a cooldown after all. | ||
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fishinguy
Russian Federation798 Posts
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Slayer91
Ireland23335 Posts
On April 01 2012 02:34 TheKefka wrote: Frozen malet is a logical choice for udyr when you buy phage after wits end along with wardens mail into randuins later.Trinity force is just too fucking expensive and udyr is not there for doing damage late game,he just needs to run around and soak damage and be a royal pain in the ass.Malet might not be the ideal item for udyr but there isn't really anything else apart from trinity to turn your phage into so might as well. You can can almost afford a frozen heart if you skip the mallet and stay with the phage. It adds far more to your survival and utility and even damage because you can spam stances more. | ||
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TheKefka
Croatia11752 Posts
On April 01 2012 02:38 Slayer91 wrote: You can can almost afford a frozen heart if you skip the mallet and stay with the phage. It adds far more to your survival and utility and even damage because you can spam stances more. That's true but idk,I think the perma slow on mallet is really underrated.Especially on someone like udyr,who if he hits you once with a FZ on him than there is a slim chance that you will get away if you'r caught out of position or in a team fight trying to get away. | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23335 Posts
On April 01 2012 02:42 TheKefka wrote: That's true but idk,I think the perma slow on mallet is really underrated.Especially on someone like udyr,who if he hits you once with a FZ on him than there is a slim chance that you will get away if you'r caught out of position or in a team fight trying to get away. Can just get red buff from your AD carry or yourself after you stun them and it's the same thing with slightly less slow but you're taking far less damage from counter damage on yourself because of the frozen haert. If you're trying to get away phage+zeal out prefroms or at least equald frozen mallet in terms of chasing on your own. (And cheaper, 900 difference from trnity and frozen mallet) There are lots of champions who use frozen mallet better or have built in perma slows, I'm wondering why you're picking udyr if you're just wanting to slow people and be not as tanky as you could be. | ||
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Frolossus
United States4779 Posts
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koreasilver
9109 Posts
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Slayer91
Ireland23335 Posts
On April 01 2012 02:46 Frolossus wrote: is froggen building anivia normally for once? Not working out for him, haha. | ||
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TheKefka
Croatia11752 Posts
On April 01 2012 02:45 Slayer91 wrote: Can just get red buff from your AD carry or yourself after you stun them and it's the same thing with slightly less slow but you're taking far less damage from counter damage on yourself because of the frozen haert. If you're trying to get away phage+zeal out prefroms or at least equald frozen mallet in terms of chasing on your own. (And cheaper, 900 difference from trnity and frozen mallet) There are lots of champions who use frozen mallet better or have built in perma slows, I'm wondering why you're picking udyr if you're just wanting to slow people and be not as tanky as you could be. Well its not just about slowing people,in fact,I don't even get to finish a frozen malet a lot of times. After I finish wits,randuins,boots and phage along with getting a oracles,it's already 28-35 mins into the game and I'm looking to build something like a negatron into fon or another chain west more often than a FM.I'm not saying FM on udyr is a priority but If you find yourself in the late game and trying to build your phage into soemthing than FM is the superior option than a trinity imo.I was just saying that a FM on udyr isn't that stupid but rushing it is. | ||
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Frolossus
United States4779 Posts
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Slayer91
Ireland23335 Posts
On April 01 2012 03:00 Frolossus wrote: why do all the EU APs hate deathcap? They really want some tank stats. Champs like vlad, kennen, ahri all need tank stats so you get a negatron and chainvest item before building deathcap. Froggen likes to build tanky on anivia because anivia does lots of sustained damage so he doesn't want to die before he gets his damage done. | ||
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BlackMagister
United States5834 Posts
merc trends vs soraka, don't push vs warick as leesin, ask for black shield to initiate fights. | ||
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ManyCookies
1164 Posts
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Slayer91
Ireland23335 Posts
On April 01 2012 03:03 ManyCookies wrote: Why do these teams let Froggen have Anivia? Hilariously froggen got at least a quadra but soraka semi stole 2 kills with imbananas! :D | ||
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Dandel Ion
Austria17960 Posts
He also has RoA, never seen him build that on anyone. Pretty sure Krepo once said on his stream that Froggen really hates RoA | ||
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mr_tolkien
France8631 Posts
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Dandel Ion
Austria17960 Posts
On April 01 2012 03:19 mr_tolkien wrote: I quit LoL and online gaming. Bye guys. Okay. gggl | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23335 Posts
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Lylat
France8575 Posts
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Gorsameth
Netherlands22345 Posts
On April 01 2012 03:14 Dandel Ion wrote: Froggen with a real itembuild on anivia :O He also has RoA, never seen him build that on anyone. Pretty sure Krepo once said on his stream that Froggen really hates RoA I assume its because of the blue changes forcing anivia to actualy get some form of mana to sustain long enough. | ||
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