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Remember guys, this is the general discussion thread. Keep whine/QQ posts in the appropriate QQ memorial thread! Thanks!
fcgog
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom876 Posts
March 31 2012 15:35 GMT
#2641
AL's problem is that angush always plays ww top so teams can punish it
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
March 31 2012 15:49 GMT
#2642
Against AL one should probably ban Mundo. Malunoo plays him all the time. He even holds the opinion Mundo is the strongest champ in the game atm.
Off-season = best season
nojitosunrise
Profile Joined August 2011
United States6188 Posts
March 31 2012 15:53 GMT
#2643
TOO's udyr leaves much to be desired
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-31 15:55:34
March 31 2012 15:54 GMT
#2644
On April 01 2012 00:53 nojitosunrise wrote:
TOO's udyr leaves much to be desired


He just runs around doing nothing useful sometimes sniping kills with bear stun. Lol, he's even rushing frozen mallet which is an awful udyr item cause health is his worst defensive stat.

It's like "I'm getting kited on udyr --> buy frozen mallet" is his logic when he should be solving his problems by teamfight smartly instead of just buying mallet and still being useless.
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
March 31 2012 15:55 GMT
#2645
On April 01 2012 00:53 nojitosunrise wrote:
TOO's udyr leaves much to be desired


All of TOO's farmy junglers leave a lot to be desired.

He just doesn't... farm.
Arevall
Profile Joined February 2010
Sweden1133 Posts
March 31 2012 15:56 GMT
#2646
On April 01 2012 00:53 nojitosunrise wrote:
TOO's udyr leaves much to be desired


IMO, his Mundo looked weak too.
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-31 16:00:41
March 31 2012 15:57 GMT
#2647
On April 01 2012 00:55 iCanada wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2012 00:53 nojitosunrise wrote:
TOO's udyr leaves much to be desired


All of TOO's farmy junglers leave a lot to be desired.

He just doesn't... farm.


Did you see last teamfight? His AP carry was in the middle of the fight, dyrus correctly jumps in with him, he runs after a mundo with ult, stuns for once when CC reduction for like .6 seconds, realizes he can't do damage or chase a mundo, runs in and stuns a kog maw and snipes the kill when he was going to die anyway.. if he was in the fight from the start he would have ignored chaox and cleaned up the squishies and then help chaox. He didn't really do anything to help chaox anyway since the stun is so insignificant, if he was maokai, sure.

He was decently farmed this game, he just teamfights like a support and not a bruiser. He could be support alistar and he'd play exactly the same as his udyr.
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
March 31 2012 16:00 GMT
#2648
On April 01 2012 00:57 Slayer91 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2012 00:55 iCanada wrote:
On April 01 2012 00:53 nojitosunrise wrote:
TOO's udyr leaves much to be desired


All of TOO's farmy junglers leave a lot to be desired.

He just doesn't... farm.


Did you see last teamfight? His AP carry was in the middle of the fight, dyrus correctly jumps in with him, he runs after a mundo with ult, stuns for once when CC reduction for like .6 seconds, realizes he can't do damage or chase a mundo, runs in and stuns a kog maw and snipes the kill when he was going to die anyway.. if he was in the fight from the start he would have ignored chaox and cleaned up the squishies and then help chaox. He didn't really do anything to help chaox anyway since the stun is so insignificant, if he was maokai, sure.


I not watching, just never seen him farm for shit.

I seen him lose in farm to SV's Shen as Shyvana. Made my brain cry.
emucxg
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Finland4559 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-31 16:04:08
March 31 2012 16:00 GMT
#2649
TOO is 1800 elo jungle right now.. he said in his last vlog that he carried TSM in the past scrims ROFL
his decisions sometimes are so weird, even in low elo soloQ =/
emucxg
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Finland4559 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-31 16:03:37
March 31 2012 16:03 GMT
#2650
On April 01 2012 01:00 iCanada wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2012 00:57 Slayer91 wrote:
On April 01 2012 00:55 iCanada wrote:
On April 01 2012 00:53 nojitosunrise wrote:
TOO's udyr leaves much to be desired


All of TOO's farmy junglers leave a lot to be desired.

He just doesn't... farm.


Did you see last teamfight? His AP carry was in the middle of the fight, dyrus correctly jumps in with him, he runs after a mundo with ult, stuns for once when CC reduction for like .6 seconds, realizes he can't do damage or chase a mundo, runs in and stuns a kog maw and snipes the kill when he was going to die anyway.. if he was in the fight from the start he would have ignored chaox and cleaned up the squishies and then help chaox. He didn't really do anything to help chaox anyway since the stun is so insignificant, if he was maokai, sure.


I not watching, just never seen him farm for shit.

I seen him lose in farm to SV's Shen as Shyvana. Made my brain cry.

gank and farm, why cant have both? good junglers like m5's can farm and gank
even saint is very good at ganks
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17269 Posts
March 31 2012 16:12 GMT
#2651
Goes back to Reginald being so domineering over the team and having TOO babysit his lane when much of the time he should't be.
twitch.tv/cratonz
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands21961 Posts
March 31 2012 16:13 GMT
#2652
On April 01 2012 01:03 emucxg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2012 01:00 iCanada wrote:
On April 01 2012 00:57 Slayer91 wrote:
On April 01 2012 00:55 iCanada wrote:
On April 01 2012 00:53 nojitosunrise wrote:
TOO's udyr leaves much to be desired


All of TOO's farmy junglers leave a lot to be desired.

He just doesn't... farm.


Did you see last teamfight? His AP carry was in the middle of the fight, dyrus correctly jumps in with him, he runs after a mundo with ult, stuns for once when CC reduction for like .6 seconds, realizes he can't do damage or chase a mundo, runs in and stuns a kog maw and snipes the kill when he was going to die anyway.. if he was in the fight from the start he would have ignored chaox and cleaned up the squishies and then help chaox. He didn't really do anything to help chaox anyway since the stun is so insignificant, if he was maokai, sure.


I not watching, just never seen him farm for shit.

I seen him lose in farm to SV's Shen as Shyvana. Made my brain cry.

gank and farm, why cant have both? good junglers like m5's can farm and gank
even saint is very good at ganks


The difference is SV sees an opening for a gank and gos for it. If there isnt an opening he doesnt try and just farms instead.
TOO on the other hand tends to run around a lot looking for ganks that dont exist instead of farming till he can.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
March 31 2012 16:14 GMT
#2653
Out of the champs Oddone has been playing a lot recently, the only champ he seems to do well on is Nocturne.
jadoth
Profile Joined December 2011
694 Posts
March 31 2012 16:19 GMT
#2654
has anyone one else been getting lag where you will like run to you last mouse click then like slide back because you were stunned then it will stop and you will see everything that happened during the lag happen at once.
Yung
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States727 Posts
March 31 2012 16:22 GMT
#2655
Do you think even after the patch irelia is good, or did it hurt her a lot, because i thought she wouldn't be very good any more but every time i see her in a game she does well.
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-31 16:26:07
March 31 2012 16:22 GMT
#2656
On April 01 2012 01:12 Craton wrote:
Goes back to Reginald being so domineering over the team and having TOO babysit his lane when much of the time he should't be.


Also:
"Oddone can you ward my lane *top side of his jungle" and he's YEAH YEAH JUST GIMMIE 30 SECONDS PLEASE. He bluepills, then runs straight from base to ward the lane. He's already invested his oracles he doesn't have much moeny to spend but he buys 2 wards anyway. He wards the lane. Chaox: "Yo oddone we can kill bottom now" oddones like "OK OK IM RUNNING GIMMIE 30 SECONDS" he finishes wraiths, ignores wolves, goes lane, they kill the support, he wards the tribush for xpecial.

Problems here:
-Regi didn't need that ward straight away, and if he did he shoulda bought it himself.
-Oddone could have cleared his whole jungle and ran bot, but instead he ran halfway around the map to ward, and then all the way around mid to gank bot.

So he could have ganked bot and got 2 clear camps up and didn't need to ward lanes that would have been doing dragon anyway, that's like 300 gold difference in like 90 seconds or so. In buisness terms that a huge profit margin.

Also, if oddone wards other peoples lanes like that, he prolly will stick around to camp the brush and gank if there is any chance of that happening, so more time wasted.
Zdrastochye
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
March 31 2012 16:41 GMT
#2657
Oddone pushing top cause he got counterjungled, in the process fucking Dyrus' lane. Idk how he's anyone's favorite TSM member, he just seems terrible, like, as bad as Regi when he's derping.
Hey! How you doin'?
emucxg
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Finland4559 Posts
March 31 2012 16:41 GMT
#2658
@Teut

Yep, use he could easily that time for counter-jungling
koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
March 31 2012 16:46 GMT
#2659
On April 01 2012 01:41 Zdrastochye wrote:
Oddone pushing top cause he got counterjungled, in the process fucking Dyrus' lane. Idk how he's anyone's favorite TSM member, he just seems terrible, like, as bad as Regi when he's derping.

?

Dyrus asked him to "power push" the lane.
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
March 31 2012 16:51 GMT
#2660
Shen was at 17 cs, noct was at 35, now 110-115 noct.
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