[Patch 1.0.0.136: Lulu] General Discussion - Page 114

On March 30 2012 00:53 cLutZ wrote:


Plus, meta seems to be telling us that all carries need to be able to slaughter minion waves thoughtlessly.

On March 30 2012 00:53 cLutZ wrote:


Plus, meta seems to be telling us that all carries need to be able to slaughter minion waves thoughtlessly.

On March 30 2012 01:23 iCanada wrote:
Zzzz...

Every single game I've played today has some idiot failing at Mundo jungle.

Thanks Saint... thanks.

On March 30 2012 01:23 iCanada wrote:
Zzzz...

Every single game I've played today has some idiot failing at Mundo jungle.

Thanks Saint... thanks.

On March 30 2012 01:04 Slayer91 wrote:


What has this to go to do with anything. Yi isn't an AD carry and some AD carries don't kill minion waves that fast. Generally it's the AP carry who clears minion waves fast.

On March 30 2012 01:15 ManyCookies wrote:
Plus Alpha Strike farms pretty well.

I can't really phrase this intelligently, but I feel making Yi more naturally tanky and Tanky DPS would sort of kill the "feel" of Master Yi. I like a certain ludicrousy, certain extremity in Champions. I'd prefer if they just gave him even more DPS, to the point where it would actually be worth putting him on a team just for sheer cleanup and pushing power.

On March 30 2012 01:27 cLutZ wrote:


I'd like to see him go in that direction. Melle carries would make this game a lot more interesting.




Low ELO tears.

But I agree. Making Yi more like tanky would just make me further question if riot knows what a ninja is.

On March 30 2012 01:27 nojitosunrise wrote:


+ Show Spoiler +

It was worse when shyvana started becoming popular

On March 30 2012 01:15 ManyCookies wrote:
Plus Alpha Strike farms pretty well.

I can't really phrase this intelligently, but I feel making Yi more naturally tanky and Tanky DPS would sort of kill the "feel" of Master Yi. I like a certain ludicrousy, certain extremity in Champions. I'd prefer if they just gave him even more DPS, to the point where it would actually be worth putting him on a team just for sheer cleanup and pushing power.

On March 30 2012 02:05 Two_DoWn wrote:
SOOOOOOOO

Time for another T_D mad science crazy talk moment: AD carries-

I was trying to think about this yesterday on a plane ride back home. But the point of an ad carry is to be able to take down and fight under towers. Which makes the operative stats that you want damage and attack speed, NOT crit, since you cant crit a tower.

Now, I dont want to eliminate crit, since the itemization tends to push you towards it. What I DO want to look at is the order that you get the items. For example, rushing an IE actually doesnt do all that much for you in terms of being able to do your job. It doesnt help kill a tower nearly as much as being able to get in an extra shot each wave if you had gone PD first. All it does is let you kill things. Which is good, but early on ANYONE can kill shit, and the AP carry is gonna be much better at it than you are, even with an IE>

I have seen Chaox recently go bf->pd on ashe, then complete whatever BF item he wants. It would seem to me that this sort of style would be more effective in terms of doing what you are supposed to do, namely kill towers.

On March 30 2012 01:57 Sandster wrote:
You'd think Mundo's and Shyvana's W are the same thing. But apparently for a large portion of the LoL population, having to toggle an ability off once in a while is way too much micro.

On March 30 2012 02:13 iCanada wrote:


But if you rush an IE you kill players much much faster. I dunno about you but if I have a choice between an AD carry with an IE and an AD carry with a BT/PD at first Baron fight. IE Carry gonna just do more damage.

On March 30 2012 02:17 Two_DoWn wrote:

But you dont pick an ad carry to kill players, you do it to kill TOWERS. There are more effective ways to kill players than having an AD carry in the game.

This thought is simply that we might overvalue bf items in general, and IE specifically, and undervalue attack speed (and black cleaver) simply because we get lost in the damage to players when you have a 3-4 item ad carry and forget why we pick ad carries in the first place.

Its more a question of what is the optimal order to build the shit you are gonna get: damage and crit multipliers are great, but do they REALLY make you better at what you are supposed to do.

On March 30 2012 02:05 Two_DoWn wrote:
I have seen Chaox recently go bf->pd on ashe, then complete whatever BF item he wants. It would seem to me that this sort of style would be more effective in terms of doing what you are supposed to do, namely kill towers.