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anmolsinghmzn2009
India1783 Posts
I don't think building her squishy is the right choice anyways. Maybe not full on defensive bruisers of course, but maybe two defensive items and then rest damage. I'm gonna try something like randuin+BV/mallet+GA for defense and rest dps stuff. And yeah I wish they increased IP gain. | ||
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ControlMonkey
Australia3109 Posts
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Haasts
New Zealand4445 Posts
Last (normal) game had a Fiora on each team as well as a Yi; was mildly hilarious/confusing when they'd Alpha Strike/Blade Waltz simultaneously in teamfights. | ||
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Unentschieden
Germany1471 Posts
On February 29 2012 17:09 gtrsrs wrote: yi has abilities that scale off of AP. he's part of the old school of thought (or more correctly, no thought) of RIOT's. where they didn't make kits that made sense always. ap yi, ap trist, irelia having ap ratios, sion/gragas having high ap ratios (though, these turned out ok, just not as intended) are all examples of classic lol champs that are meant to be built one way but scale extensively off of a counterproductive stat riot is now starting to make champs that have more cohesion in their skills. shyvana: magic damage, but still scales off of AD so you're encouraged to not build her like a fumbling retard. talon: no real AP ratios. fiora. voli/sej/nautilus having self-health scaling skills and wanting you to build them tanky The big issue is that "fixing" Yi would change who he is. He wouldn´t just need adjustments to the obsolete Abilities=AP paradigm (which breaks the populat AP Yi build) but also the swinginess of his killreliant ult. There are other iffinesses, Alpha strike is the most RNG ability in the game right now and meditate is either superstrong or (most of the time) nigh useless. Fiora is Yi reborn with modernized design. No AP gimmick, offensive and defensive steroids from hitting enemies instead of rooting yourself, kills/assists are for one ability not four making her perform better in not 4v5 situations. | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
The impression I got was that she deals 0 damage despite Phreak building her as a full dps. That's not good... Hopefully Phreak just did something failtacular. | ||
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HazMat
United States17077 Posts
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NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
On February 29 2012 20:54 HazMat wrote: Hm, a hero who on you max E first. That's actually kind of rare. Amumu, Anivia, Cass, Garen, Lux, Malph, etc. Majority is Q, sure, but E isn't that rare either. | ||
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mr_tolkien
France8631 Posts
On February 29 2012 21:04 NeoIllusions wrote: Amumu, Anivia, Cass, Garen, Lux, Malph, etc. Majority is Q, sure, but E isn't that rare either. Maxing Q first is usually better for Cass, gives pushing power, and you'll Q anyway before your Es ^^ | ||
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Zhiroo
Kosovo2724 Posts
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Dark.Carnival
United States5095 Posts
On February 29 2012 20:49 Shikyo wrote: Hmh, watched the Fiora spotlight and... The impression I got was that she deals 0 damage despite Phreak building her as a full dps. That's not good... Hopefully Phreak just did something failtacular. she does a lot of damage ;o | ||
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Wala.Revolution
7584 Posts
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BlueSpace
Germany2182 Posts
On February 29 2012 18:50 Seuss wrote: The ult change is mostly a nerf. The problem is that a 6 second defensive steroid on a 100 second cooldown isn't going to have a huge effect on your build. You can't just ignore Armor/MR for the other 94 seconds. Even champions who have defensive steroids with far better uptimes build Armor/MR. So ultimately 30/45/60 Armor/MR at level 6/11/16 isn't going to change how you build Olaf. The end result is that you'll be slightly tankier for a brief window early in the game, but at the cost of significant mid-late game survivability. He didn't say to ignore defensive. He correctly pointed out that the ult was changed in a way that has a better synergy with the rest of the kit. Whether it is viable or not to build a lot of health on Olaf as defense is another question. But the Ult is now in sync with his e and w. | ||
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Gorsameth
Netherlands22008 Posts
The parry wont have much effect in a teamfight when your being focussed since its 1 attack only and while your ult makes you untargettable and steals some nice health i expect her to just drop dead by focus right after. Not to mention she seems extereme weak to any form of cc. Her only steroid is an aspd increase which means she needs to build damage to be able to actualy kill and then your a glass cannon melee without escapes as mentioned above. Seems like a bad combination to me. | ||
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yenta
Poland1142 Posts
On February 29 2012 21:11 mr_tolkien wrote: Maxing Q first is usually better for Cass, gives pushing power, and you'll Q anyway before your Es ^^ You only really need 1-2 in q to push. Auto attack 3 minions and use a q. Def max e for harass/burst. The only time i go for q/w is when im scared of their mid. | ||
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spinesheath
Germany8679 Posts
On February 29 2012 21:04 NeoIllusions wrote: Amumu, Anivia, Cass, Garen, Lux, Malph, etc. Majority is Q, sure, but E isn't that rare either. Corki. But I'm pretty much alone here again. If anyone played with me recently and wonders how my seemingly completely random Corki builds work so damn well: Max E. | ||
Flicky
England2669 Posts
Will probably wait until free week. | ||
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ihasaKAROT
Netherlands4730 Posts
On February 29 2012 21:34 spinesheath wrote: Corki. But I'm pretty much alone here again. If anyone played with me recently and wonders how my seemingly completely random Corki builds work so damn well: Max E. Good to see im not alone in that  | ||
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Zhiroo
Kosovo2724 Posts
On February 29 2012 21:34 spinesheath wrote: Corki. But I'm pretty much alone here again. If anyone played with me recently and wonders how my seemingly completely random Corki builds work so damn well: Max E. I max E on Corki too... Corki/Taric combo bot lane stronk with max E and Shatter. | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
On February 29 2012 20:46 Unentschieden wrote: The big issue is that "fixing" Yi would change who he is. He wouldn´t just need adjustments to the obsolete Abilities=AP paradigm (which breaks the populat AP Yi build) but also the swinginess of his killreliant ult. There are other iffinesses, Alpha strike is the most RNG ability in the game right now and meditate is either superstrong or (most of the time) nigh useless. Fiora is Yi reborn with modernized design. No AP gimmick, offensive and defensive steroids from hitting enemies instead of rooting yourself, kills/assists are for one ability not four making her perform better in not 4v5 situations. You've posted several times lately, almost always about Yi, and everytime the post was focused on his "AP gimmicks" and "killreliant ult" (down to each word). We understood the first time, now you're getting as repetitive as me whining about how I can't play Morg, which is a lot.  | ||
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Sicariidae
50 Posts
On February 29 2012 19:46 anmolsinghmzn2009 wrote: Am I doing something wrong? Or doing small gols evrytime they're up isn't optimal now? Yeah, the new jungle really makes the Golem Camp pretty frustrating. Unless Red Buff is up, or you are ganking the lane right afterwards, then they are just too far out of the way to be worth your time. Obviously, if no lanes are gankable and everything else is dead, then you should probably clear it, but, I place a really low priority on that camp currently. I actually listened to OddOne talk about this same issue on stream not too long ago and he said he wished that Riot would swap the positions of Red Buff and the Golem Camp just to make it more convenient. | ||
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