EPT[Patch 1.0.0.135: Fiora] General Discussion - Page 5
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qanik
Denmark1899 Posts
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AsianEcksDragon
United States1036 Posts
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seRapH
United States9756 Posts
My much-tested totally not theorycrafted Fiona build is MBR rush. Totally nothing like warwick either because she's a girl. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On February 29 2012 15:15 snowbird wrote: It's actually a big buff to e. Before you would use e and then had 5 sec to detonate it until it auto detonates. After detonation the CD would start ticking (9 sec). Now you use e and the CD immediately starts ticking (10 sec), that means that if you immediately detonate e after using, you'll still have the old cd of 9sec because it takes roughly 1 sec for the particle to fly. If you wait for the whole 5 sec until you detonate it, the CD will be at only 5 sec. I like it this way, use E to cut off escapes, and then Q (Easier to hit now that they're slowed), E again, Lazer, E again. | ||
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Terranasaur
United States2085 Posts
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arnath
United States1317 Posts
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Treadmill
Canada2833 Posts
On February 29 2012 16:00 arnath wrote: I think the name "Fiora" sounds stupid so I'm going to call her Fiona. Motion seconded. I hope to god the next new character is a support. | ||
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pschiu
Singapore410 Posts
On February 29 2012 16:08 Treadmill wrote: Motion seconded. I hope to god the next new character is a support. Motion thirded. We can now have a NANANANANA troll battle: morgana shyvana orianna sona tristana vs leona katarina janna luxanna fiona | ||
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Bladeorade
United States1898 Posts
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Perplex
United States1693 Posts
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ihasaKAROT
Netherlands4730 Posts
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On February 29 2012 16:32 Perplex wrote: Can't decide if wriggles -> BT and then maybe a triforce will be the best on her. It capitalizes on the on-hit and lifesteal from the ult really well, but perhaps building her Irelia style is stronger (or at least more durable). We'll see tomorrow! Wit's End feels almost a given. Keep in mind that on-hit effects aren't subject to %-AD reductions. Meaning that Wit's End procs for full damage on all hits of the ultimate (and would take you instantly to max stacks). | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On February 29 2012 16:32 Perplex wrote: Can't decide if wriggles -> BT and then maybe a triforce will be the best on her. It capitalizes on the on-hit and lifesteal from the ult really well, but perhaps building her Irelia style is stronger (or at least more durable). We'll see tomorrow! No, you tiamat stack with her, use ur ulti, and watch everyone QQ about how op'd fiora is. | ||
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Hidden_MotiveS
Canada2562 Posts
 . Tri Force won't proc often enough on her ult. Anything else would seem nice though. | ||
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Juicyfruit
Canada5484 Posts
On February 29 2012 16:46 TheYango wrote: Wit's End feels almost a given. Keep in mind that on-hit effects aren't subject to %-AD reductions. Meaning that Wit's End procs for full damage on all hits of the ultimate (and would take you instantly to max stacks). Wit's end so good, but I think the main possible contention is whether you even want to bother going that route of just going straight for the AD/Crit/Lifesteal synergy route. She doesn't seem like she needs the magic resist all that bad. | ||
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BlackPaladin
United States9316 Posts
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gtrsrs
United States9109 Posts
On February 29 2012 16:58 BlackPaladin wrote: I still don't get what's the point of making yi 2.0, now with boobs. :/ yi has abilities that scale off of AP. he's part of the old school of thought (or more correctly, no thought) of RIOT's. where they didn't make kits that made sense always. ap yi, ap trist, irelia having ap ratios, sion/gragas having high ap ratios (though, these turned out ok, just not as intended) are all examples of classic lol champs that are meant to be built one way but scale extensively off of a counterproductive stat riot is now starting to make champs that have more cohesion in their skills. shyvana: magic damage, but still scales off of AD so you're encouraged to not build her like a fumbling retard. talon: no real AP ratios. fiora. voli/sej/nautilus having self-health scaling skills and wanting you to build them tanky | ||
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dignity
Canada908 Posts
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Kaniol
Poland5551 Posts
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sylverfyre
United States8298 Posts
On February 29 2012 17:46 Kaniol wrote: So afterall they do stick with Olaf nerfs Olaf Axe Throw Damage increased to 80-260 from 50-210 Scaling changed to +1.0 bonus AD from +0.5 total AD Base cooldown reduced to 8 seconds from 10 Cooldown reduction for picking up the axe reduced to 4.5 seconds from 6 Ragnarok now provides 30/45/60 Armor and Magic Resist instead of 20/30/40 flat damage reduction Movement Speed increased to 325 from 320 Poppy How is this a nerf? Armor & MR from ulti synergizes better with the fact that Olaf wants to build health, not armor. Free flat damage reduction scales better off of armor, resists scale better off of +HP. Extra move speed for a champ with no gap closers is pretty cool. Axe CD is now shorter and scales better with equipment (And it gains more when you press W!) but less well from leveling up and gaining base attack damage. Assuming you only have atmogs at 18 with new olaf, you have more axe damage than previously. The Axe CD change still allows you to spam your axe quite a bit if you have max CDR and pick up your axe - if you somehow instantly picked up your axe with 40% CDR, you'd have a 0.3 second CD. Thus, the CDR changes to axe are pretty much purely a buff (a buff to everyone EXCEPT 40-cdr olafs who are throwing their axe at point blank range.. .and even then, you still spam your axe b/c the throw animation probably takes longer than 0.3 seconds.) Mathcraft: + Show Spoiler + So, let's assume we have a level 9 olaf who just maxed out Axe, and only has a wriggles lantern for items. Pre-nerf he would do 210+(89+23)/2 = 266 damage on a 10 second CD (4s if he picks up the axe) and now he does 260+23 = 283 damage on an 8 second CD (3.5s if he picks up the axe) That's not even while his W is active. Late game he'll probably have atmogs and gain even more off the new bonus-AD scaling. Not a nerf on any count. If you want, I'll mathcraft earlier and later levels, but I'm pretty sure the new olaf axe is better on almost all counts, except the ones where you build pure tanky, and even then it's close to even. | ||
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