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Same rules apply, per usual. Please use the appropriate threads (QQ, Brag, Champion, etc) whenever appropriate. Keep the resident Banling content.

Thanks. Happy Gaming.
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
March 16 2012 20:31 GMT
#3701
If I'm mid I always take blue no matter what because my jungler is usually a retard who doesn't know how to use a blue properly.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
Cloud9157
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2968 Posts
March 16 2012 20:34 GMT
#3702
On March 17 2012 05:31 JackDino wrote:
If I'm mid I always take blue no matter what because my jungler is usually a retard who doesn't know how to use a blue properly.


Willing to bet mids feed blue to enemy more than jungler does.
"Are you absolutely sure that armor only affects the health portion of a protoss army??? That doesn't sound right to me. source?" -Some idiot
bmn
Profile Joined August 2010
886 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-16 20:39:15
March 16 2012 20:36 GMT
#3703
On March 17 2012 05:27 Two_DoWn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2012 05:23 bmn wrote:
On March 17 2012 05:18 Two_DoWn wrote:
An interesting thought: if a mid is not going to be able to counterpush a lane fast enough to be mobile even if they have blue, why bother giving it to them?


Um, because you don't want the other mid to roam because they got blue and pushed the lane?

Why does everyone here always write stuff like "because your mid is usually a retard anyway" -- how do you guys end up being amazingly smart junglers stuck in the same ELO as completely retarded mid players?

I'm a bit confused by this idea that all junglers make best use of their blue while the mids on the same team mostly are too stupid to roam. I've seen just as many games where the jungler gets blue without making good use of it (doesn't gank more, counterjungle, help failing lanes, or feeds it to the other team).

I'm not being sarcastic, I really don't understand why everyone talks as if they are always great junglers stuck with terribly bad mids. Unless TL has a monopoly on overeducated but underachieving junglers, the math doesn't work out.

The point I am trying to make is that in a case of, say, Cassio vs Morgana, it doesnt matter if Morg has blue- Cassio is going to be able to out push Morg. She is going to be able to push the lane and roam, at a speed morgana cannot match. So why do we still hand off the buff?


If it won't help, I don't know why you would give it to mid.

And everyone below tournament play screws up using blue properly most of the time. Mostly because it is really hard to roam in solo q because communication is so bad. Its just one of those common misplays. You know the games where the mid is everywhere, killing every lane, and the game is over by 20 minutes? Those are the mids who know how to use blue.


Sure, but doesn't using blue "properly" as a jungler also require knowledge that most people at that level won't have?
Most junglers don't suffer terribly from not having blue after the 2nd/3rd, and even without being able to roam your mid laner will get a benefit from the blue, even if just from the CDR.

In those games where the mid is everywhere, killing every lane, it's because the /other/ mid couldn't keep up with the lane clearing speed. Not saying that Morgana needs blue, but many people do benefit greatly from it, and they'd be able to stop Cass from roaming as much.

Clearly not all mids benefit from blue equally, just like not all junglers do (most obviously manaless ones).


Edit:
Cloud said:
Speaking strictly for myself, I'm stuck in the shitty 1200-1350 ELO and it really is common. So many morons pick mid and then fail so hard.

I have trouble believing that you see *many* 1200-1350 ELO mids with 40cs at 10 minutes. You're higher ELO than me, and that number seems very low.

Also, I'm not saying mid won't feed blue, I'm asking why the assumption is that junglers are more competent than mid laners.
nojitosunrise
Profile Joined August 2011
United States6188 Posts
March 16 2012 20:39 GMT
#3704
LuLu revealed

http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=1922508
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
March 16 2012 20:42 GMT
#3705
On March 17 2012 05:39 nojitosunrise wrote:
LuLu revealed

http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=1922508


She has an offensive support feel to her.
I hope Lulu promotes some AP/Lulu bot lanes.
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JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
March 16 2012 20:43 GMT
#3706
Looks like a fun ult together with a cho or nautilus.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
Mondeezy
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1938 Posts
March 16 2012 20:43 GMT
#3707
On March 17 2012 05:39 nojitosunrise wrote:
LuLu revealed

http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=1922508


Such a good kit with awesome utility. Every support besides Janna and Sona bore me so I may consider picking her up.
LoL NA: Mondeezy - TL - Riven <3
shrinkmaster
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany947 Posts
March 16 2012 20:44 GMT
#3708
depending on how long her E gives vision it could be really overpowered i think.
Voltaire: The true triumph of reason is that it enables us to get along with those who do not possess it.
Doctorbeat
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands13241 Posts
March 16 2012 20:45 GMT
#3709
Trying out jangle Twitch.

I find that unless my lanes have a way of preventing me to take damage from the enemy, I am far too squishy, sometimes even for 2v1's.

I tried building him on-hit (wriggle's>BC>Mallet), but it doesn't seem to work that great. Are doran's blades a viable alternative for wriggle's? Since I just lack health, especially for mid ganks (AP's tend to shit on me since no MR runes).

Oh and close to finishing my yordle scum poppy page, Zekent style. Had a load of fun as Poppy. Even thoug she gets shit on by certain champs, I totally destroyed a critplank the other day. Mwahahaahhaa.
- TEAM LIQUID - doctorbeat on LoL
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
March 16 2012 20:48 GMT
#3710
On March 17 2012 05:39 nojitosunrise wrote:
LuLu revealed

http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=1922508


how useful pix is will largely be determined by if he can cs/ks
Carrilord has arrived.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
March 16 2012 20:48 GMT
#3711
!

Chogath + Surge + Wild Growth = ???
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Cloud9157
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2968 Posts
March 16 2012 20:48 GMT
#3712
Admittedly, that was a bit of an exaggeration. I do get some people like that, but then I get people that constantly die or bitch me out for not ganking. Basically there are a lot of reasons why I do not give some people buffs(that last one is a bit selfish I guess...).

Basically, I just use my judgment. I'd like to think that because I keep timers on buffs/drag/baron and that I even do this cool thing called warding, my insight>>>>>>>>>>everyone elses. Of course I do stupid things playing any position sometimes as well.

I will ALWAYS give people the benefit of the doubt. If they have been doing ok or well, then I give them blue. If they're losing a little bit and the enemy isn't like Leblanc or Kassadin, I definitely give them blue.



"Are you absolutely sure that armor only affects the health portion of a protoss army??? That doesn't sound right to me. source?" -Some idiot
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
March 16 2012 20:52 GMT
#3713
On March 17 2012 05:48 Shikyo wrote:
!

Chogath + Surge + Wild Growth = ???

"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
March 16 2012 20:52 GMT
#3714
when I saw Pix, the first thing that came to mind was "HEY! LISTEN!"
Doctorbeat
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands13241 Posts
March 16 2012 20:54 GMT
#3715
On March 17 2012 05:52 Ryuu314 wrote:
when I saw Pix, the first thing that came to mind was "HEY! LISTEN!"


Time for team Na'Vi to main her.
- TEAM LIQUID - doctorbeat on LoL
Cloud9157
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2968 Posts
March 16 2012 20:55 GMT
#3716
Lulu is going to be broken from the sounds of it.

Ult the tank or your AD carry and it could lead to play protect the AD or let the AD kite enemies endlessly.

"Are you absolutely sure that armor only affects the health portion of a protoss army??? That doesn't sound right to me. source?" -Some idiot
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-16 20:56:00
March 16 2012 20:55 GMT
#3717
Her third skill should be renamed to "Hey! Listen!" and it should cause fear+give vision. that'd be boss.
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-16 21:05:21
March 16 2012 21:01 GMT
#3718
On March 17 2012 05:55 Ryuu314 wrote:
Her third skill should be renamed to "Hey! Listen!" and it should cause fear+give vision. that'd be boss.

In fact her skills should be
Hey! Listen! (Q)
Hey! Look! (W)
Hey! Watch out! (E)
And her R would obviously be "Giant's Mask".

And I have no idea where you get the "sounds broken" idea from. All up to numbers.
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
nojitosunrise
Profile Joined August 2011
United States6188 Posts
March 16 2012 21:03 GMT
#3719
On March 17 2012 05:55 Cloud9157 wrote:
Lulu is going to be broken from the sounds of it.

Ult the tank or your AD carry and it could lead to play protect the AD or let the AD kite enemies endlessly.




well it is a xypherous champion...so there is a good chance she will be a tad bit strong
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-16 21:04:33
March 16 2012 21:04 GMT
#3720
she seems a lot more like a dota support than the current guys... that is, actually interesting.
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
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