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[Patch 1.0.0.135: Fiora] General Discussion - Page 16

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Same rules apply, per usual. Please use the appropriate threads (QQ, Brag, Champion, etc) whenever appropriate. Keep the resident Banling content.

Thanks. Happy Gaming.
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands21738 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-29 21:48:42
February 29 2012 21:47 GMT
#301
On March 01 2012 06:43 anmolsinghmzn2009 wrote:
looking at the wiki, her ult cooldown is kinda ridiculous . . .


Her ult timer is pretty much the same as any other ult? nothing wierd there.
I think people underestimate her passive alot. its a lot more sustain then you give it credit for.

Still think her numbers are on the weak side tho.

ps. Try starting with vamp scepter instead of cloth. snooped did and he pretty much never went low going wolves>blue>wraith>red>golems

Tho he does lvl E first but for jungle i think that makes more sense since it should help clearspeed.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-29 21:51:05
February 29 2012 21:50 GMT
#302
On March 01 2012 06:15 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2012 06:13 red_ wrote:
On March 01 2012 06:07 wei2coolman wrote:
Oh gawd, I hate fiora jungle first few clears are such a bitch. But after first 2-3 clears its a lot easier.

My item build with her in jungle is. Cloth-5pot, ->madreds->boots->wrigs->merc boots->phage->witsend->bt->frozmallet.

Some things that I noticed more, is that her ganks are weak, because she doesn't have any good cc. But she does hit fairly hard if she can stick on the enemy.

Haven't really quite tried fiora top lane. (i'd assume she'd be sorta beasty, due to passive, and great steroid)

Anyone else got anything to attribute to this new champ?


The passive is weak, and the steroid is terrible. I'm guessing she's actually going to have trouble finding a place in current meta until they boost some numbers, maybe fix her Q to apply auto attacks.

120%as for 3 seconds is bad? :O So strong imo. I think her W needs to reflect % dmg back, as opposed to flat magic damage,.

Her Q is okay ish, I sorta wish it was a skillshot dash as opposed to a targeted dash. Her ulti does absurds amount of damage, to single target, and to groups of target.

Really? Let's compare:

Warwick W: +80% ASPD for 10 seconds with 40% to every surrounding ally

Fiora E: +120% ASPD for 3 seconds and some movespeed, though refreshes on kill.

So basically the skill is awful unless you get a kill.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
February 29 2012 21:50 GMT
#303
On March 01 2012 06:44 57 Corvette wrote:
I am approaching 6300 IP and I am looking to buy a new backup mage (Ryze and Brand aren't really working for me, idk why).

The ones I am really looking at are Cassiopea, Kennen and Xerath. Which one is most like Gragas in terms of laning and farming up?


Kennen is sort of like Gragas with his long poke and then melee range combo. You wont regret buying any of those though They are all real strong.
In Hungry Hungry Hippos there are no such constraints—one can constantly attempt to collect marbles with one’s hippo, limited only by one’s hippo-levering capabilities.
Woony
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany6657 Posts
February 29 2012 21:50 GMT
#304
On March 01 2012 06:46 rwrzr wrote:
Fun trolly Fiora Build: Wit's End and Ionic Spark -> Frozen Hammer

After Wriggles and Merc treads.


the only acceptable fiora troll build is the kunkka build aka tiamat 5x
Juicyfruit
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada5484 Posts
February 29 2012 21:51 GMT
#305
On March 01 2012 06:47 Gorsameth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2012 06:43 anmolsinghmzn2009 wrote:
looking at the wiki, her ult cooldown is kinda ridiculous . . .


Her ult timer is pretty much the same as any other ult? nothing wierd there.
I think people underestimate her passive alot. its a lot more sustain then you give it credit for.

Still think her numbers are on the weak side tho.


At level 6 it's like 13 health over 6 seconds. If you trade 4 hits with enemy champion you regen 53 health. It's not useless, but there's not much credit to give it.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-29 21:53:12
February 29 2012 21:51 GMT
#306
On March 01 2012 06:50 Woony wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2012 06:46 rwrzr wrote:
Fun trolly Fiora Build: Wit's End and Ionic Spark -> Frozen Hammer

After Wriggles and Merc treads.


the only acceptable fiora troll build is the kunkka build aka tiamat 5x

Difference though is that Kunkka with 5 Battle Furies wrecks face with a 1000 AoE cleave whereas Tiamat is like 100 AoE at best

On March 01 2012 06:51 Juicyfruit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2012 06:47 Gorsameth wrote:
On March 01 2012 06:43 anmolsinghmzn2009 wrote:
looking at the wiki, her ult cooldown is kinda ridiculous . . .


Her ult timer is pretty much the same as any other ult? nothing wierd there.
I think people underestimate her passive alot. its a lot more sustain then you give it credit for.

Still think her numbers are on the weak side tho.


At level 6 it's like 13 health over 6 seconds. If you trade 4 hits with enemy champion you regen 53 health. It's not useless, but there's not much credit to give it.

As it's active nearly always I'd like to think about it as a free reju bead or so. Very mediocre/bad.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
February 29 2012 22:06 GMT
#307
On March 01 2012 06:31 Mysticvoid wrote:
Snoopeh recorded one of this jungle games with Fiora. Snoop is CLG-EUs jungle for anyone that doesn't know. He is probably one of my favorite players.

http://www.own3d.tv/video/489477/Snoopeh_Jungle_FIORA___ It's a pretty good watch.

Interesting he said smartcasting q caused it to double proc. Anyone else have that problem?
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands21738 Posts
February 29 2012 22:10 GMT
#308
Discovered another problem with Fiora.
Her parry doesnt block on hit effects.
It wont stop garens silence or udyrs stun. just the dmg
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
February 29 2012 22:14 GMT
#309
On March 01 2012 07:06 Two_DoWn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2012 06:31 Mysticvoid wrote:
Snoopeh recorded one of this jungle games with Fiora. Snoop is CLG-EUs jungle for anyone that doesn't know. He is probably one of my favorite players.

http://www.own3d.tv/video/489477/Snoopeh_Jungle_FIORA___ It's a pretty good watch.

Interesting he said smartcasting q caused it to double proc. Anyone else have that problem?

Yeah, Having prob's with that too. But i think its cause when u smart cast you generally spam the button until it gets int o range, so occaisionally i doublecast. but generally been more patient wiht my casitng.
liftlift > tsm
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
February 29 2012 22:17 GMT
#310
On March 01 2012 07:10 Gorsameth wrote:
Discovered another problem with Fiora.
Her parry doesnt block on hit effects.
It wont stop garens silence or udyrs stun. just the dmg

Its not supposed to block cc. Been confirmed multiple times by Reds.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
February 29 2012 22:18 GMT
#311
Hmm after seeing junglers be at like 30-60 minion kills every single game at 15min and when im at like 130 usually i think that i should start jungling instead of solo top or AD carry in solo queue because apparently no one has any idea how to jungle properly
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
unichan
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States4223 Posts
February 29 2012 22:20 GMT
#312
i was very disappointed when they didnt announce my roa, deathcap, or zhonyas in chat
i was very proud of acquiring those
:)
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands21738 Posts
February 29 2012 22:22 GMT
#313
On March 01 2012 07:17 Two_DoWn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2012 07:10 Gorsameth wrote:
Discovered another problem with Fiora.
Her parry doesnt block on hit effects.
It wont stop garens silence or udyrs stun. just the dmg

Its not supposed to block cc. Been confirmed multiple times by Reds.


Not working against on next hit cc removes a ton of use from the ability tho. Its already only a single hit and now there isnt even a use for saving it for a particular hit really.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-29 22:28:56
February 29 2012 22:25 GMT
#314
On March 01 2012 07:22 Gorsameth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2012 07:17 Two_DoWn wrote:
On March 01 2012 07:10 Gorsameth wrote:
Discovered another problem with Fiora.
Her parry doesnt block on hit effects.
It wont stop garens silence or udyrs stun. just the dmg

Its not supposed to block cc. Been confirmed multiple times by Reds.


Not working against on next hit cc removes a ton of use from the ability tho. Its already only a single hit and now there isnt even a use for saving it for a particular hit really.

It seems that it's more or less only useful against next-hit high damage things like Nasus, Wukong, Sivir, or I guess Morde (though does it block the magic damage?). It's nice in trades, sure, but the things you want to "save it for" are very limited.

Edit: maybe like, Cait or Ashe passive crit thingies, but they'll be getting enough crits outside of those that you probably don't want to save it for something like that.

Double edit: if you parry Jarvan's passive first hit thing, will his next one apply the extra damage or no?
It's your boy Guzma!
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
February 29 2012 22:46 GMT
#315
On March 01 2012 07:25 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2012 07:22 Gorsameth wrote:
On March 01 2012 07:17 Two_DoWn wrote:
On March 01 2012 07:10 Gorsameth wrote:
Discovered another problem with Fiora.
Her parry doesnt block on hit effects.
It wont stop garens silence or udyrs stun. just the dmg

Its not supposed to block cc. Been confirmed multiple times by Reds.


Not working against on next hit cc removes a ton of use from the ability tho. Its already only a single hit and now there isnt even a use for saving it for a particular hit really.

It seems that it's more or less only useful against next-hit high damage things like Nasus, Wukong, Sivir, or I guess Morde (though does it block the magic damage?). It's nice in trades, sure, but the things you want to "save it for" are very limited.

Edit: maybe like, Cait or Ashe passive crit thingies, but they'll be getting enough crits outside of those that you probably don't want to save it for something like that.

Double edit: if you parry Jarvan's passive first hit thing, will his next one apply the extra damage or no?

Its magic damage isnt it so it should apply on its own?
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands21738 Posts
February 29 2012 23:07 GMT
#316
On March 01 2012 07:46 arb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2012 07:25 Requizen wrote:
On March 01 2012 07:22 Gorsameth wrote:
On March 01 2012 07:17 Two_DoWn wrote:
On March 01 2012 07:10 Gorsameth wrote:
Discovered another problem with Fiora.
Her parry doesnt block on hit effects.
It wont stop garens silence or udyrs stun. just the dmg

Its not supposed to block cc. Been confirmed multiple times by Reds.


Not working against on next hit cc removes a ton of use from the ability tho. Its already only a single hit and now there isnt even a use for saving it for a particular hit really.

It seems that it's more or less only useful against next-hit high damage things like Nasus, Wukong, Sivir, or I guess Morde (though does it block the magic damage?). It's nice in trades, sure, but the things you want to "save it for" are very limited.

Edit: maybe like, Cait or Ashe passive crit thingies, but they'll be getting enough crits outside of those that you probably don't want to save it for something like that.

Double edit: if you parry Jarvan's passive first hit thing, will his next one apply the extra damage or no?

Its magic damage isnt it so it should apply on its own?


It just says the next basic attack gets parried nothing about the type of damage.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
February 29 2012 23:19 GMT
#317
I think it's really stupid that she has a 1.5s shield that only blocks one basic attack and returns magic dmg with no extra effect. Let's compare:

Morganas prevents CC, Sivir and Noct both ignore any spell(even Veigar ulti), and Jax dodges ALL basic attacks for 2 seconds, even onhit effects.

And what does Fiora get? An ability to block a single basic attack and reflect magic dmg. If it slowed it'd make sense, now it's just crap.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Navi
Profile Joined November 2009
5286 Posts
February 29 2012 23:21 GMT
#318
yea they should make it a slow where u like poke them in the legs
o noes now im slower
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Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
February 29 2012 23:22 GMT
#319
On March 01 2012 08:19 Shikyo wrote:
I think it's really stupid that she has a 1.5s shield that only blocks one basic attack and returns magic dmg with no extra effect. Let's compare:

Morganas prevents CC, Sivir and Noct both ignore any spell(even Veigar ulti), and Jax dodges ALL basic attacks for 2 seconds, even onhit effects.

And what does Fiora get? An ability to block a single basic attack and reflect magic dmg. If it slowed it'd make sense, now it's just crap.

It SHOULD return % damage. Like if you return a tibbers, Annie should be made to feel REAL foolish. I mean, that would make sense in terms of eating the stun still. Like she gets something out of it (stunning you) but you get the "FUK U ANNIE" feeling from watching her eat her own spell.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
February 29 2012 23:42 GMT
#320
On March 01 2012 08:19 Shikyo wrote:
I think it's really stupid that she has a 1.5s shield that only blocks one basic attack and returns magic dmg with no extra effect. Let's compare:

Morganas prevents CC, Sivir and Noct both ignore any spell(even Veigar ulti), and Jax dodges ALL basic attacks for 2 seconds, even onhit effects.

And what does Fiora get? An ability to block a single basic attack and reflect magic dmg. If it slowed it'd make sense, now it's just crap.


Imo it should Stun or something. All it is now is spam W erry time it up and miss an Auto.

She pretty much exactly what her Title says, a grand duelist. Kinda Mediocre in teamfights unless she super fed. I rather have Riven or a ranged AD.
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