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Same rules apply, per usual. Please use the appropriate threads (QQ, Brag, Champion, etc) whenever appropriate. Keep the resident Banling content.

Thanks. Happy Gaming.
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
February 29 2012 19:41 GMT
#261
On March 01 2012 04:39 Mogwai wrote:
what is the best trynd skill order? I've never really been good at understanding why some trynds are successful and a pain in the ass while others are just punching bags in lane.

q, e, q, w q>e>w is what I always used. Basically the big thing is get your rage up as fast as you can, then tear the q off of your keyboard. Then just wack the enemy till you get a crit, so basically every other hit.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
Juicyfruit
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada5484 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-29 19:43:16
February 29 2012 19:41 GMT
#262
That stupid chicken skill seems to be pretty overpowered, since I can't really understand how being able to reduce your opponent's AD to zero is fair.

Edit: oh they nerfed the AD reduction on it somewhat. It used to be like -60AD at level 3 mocking shout and -100 at level 5
Glaceau
Profile Joined February 2012
Wales333 Posts
February 29 2012 19:41 GMT
#263
Q > W > E generally but against some lanes where you cannot safely autoattack, maybe like vs panth or renek early, its sometimes better to get a couple levels of W first so you can trade a little better
Cmon, swing it
GARO
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States2255 Posts
February 29 2012 19:54 GMT
#264
Mocking Shout being able to affect spells that scale off AD is gay.
epoc
Profile Joined December 2010
Finland1190 Posts
February 29 2012 20:00 GMT
#265
Atmost is so costly. You have to make it endgame which most games dont go to
Cixah
Profile Joined July 2010
United States11285 Posts
February 29 2012 20:05 GMT
#266
Assuming proper farm, you should be able to have atmogs at about 20 to 24 minutes. That's more mid game when I think about it. I still like fromas on most just because of the early aggressive pressure of having the phage.
Hug The Goat! Hug the Goat! Hug the Goat!
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-29 20:10:48
February 29 2012 20:08 GMT
#267
On March 01 2012 04:35 Two_DoWn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2012 04:28 rackdude wrote:
On March 01 2012 03:50 Two_DoWn wrote:
I actually dont know why tryndamere fell out of favor so fast. All they did was nerf the heal on q, which you never actually used anyway.

He still crushes anyone who stands still vs him, and you aint doing shit to him in terms of burst once he gets wriggles cuz he just crits 2 creeps and is back to full health.


Uhh... it was his q, his lane sustain, that made him unstoppable in lane leading to a horrific end game for everything else. Now he's not as unstoppable in lane, and thus a counter pick can end him. That q nerf put him in line...

You never used q in lane. EVER. It was literally the WORST thing you could ever do, and really only ever advisable in a situation where you needed it to survive a last tick of ignite or something simillarly immediatly life threatening. Other than that, you never pressed q.

He got all of his lane sustain through pots, then crits off of wriggles vamp. He NEVER used q for lane sustain.

Yeah the only times you'd actively be using Q is before you have wriggles and like after you just killed the top and survived at 150 hp and the jungler just was seen at bot so you are safe and you need like 300 gold for your next item. I basically only used Q to heal when I was low and didn't want to B, but that's usually pretty stupid still because with the extra crit chance you lifesteal more anyway so yeah...

On March 01 2012 04:39 Mogwai wrote:
what is the best trynd skill order? I've never really been good at understanding why some trynds are successful and a pain in the ass while others are just punching bags in lane.

It's QEQWQ R > Q > W > E

However you can get W at lvl 2 if you're like, solotop and your Shaco does the top red first.

You could max E first I guess but W is way better for denying farm at turret for example and also way better at 1v1. I guess vs mages you could consider E if generally you don't get more harrass off than E and 1-2 attacks at once.

(I'm low elo but I have like 900 games with tryndamere)
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
February 29 2012 20:10 GMT
#268
On March 01 2012 04:28 rackdude wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2012 03:50 Two_DoWn wrote:
I actually dont know why tryndamere fell out of favor so fast. All they did was nerf the heal on q, which you never actually used anyway.

He still crushes anyone who stands still vs him, and you aint doing shit to him in terms of burst once he gets wriggles cuz he just crits 2 creeps and is back to full health.


Uhh... it was his q, his lane sustain, that made him unstoppable in lane leading to a horrific end game for everything else. Now he's not as unstoppable in lane, and thus a counter pick can end him. That q nerf put him in line...

Trynd using Q to sustain means he won't crit you and you could bash the shit out of him in lane lol. Least that's what I did, always harass and never let him build up his rage, bully him out of lane.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
February 29 2012 20:14 GMT
#269
Ya thinking about it I probably SHOULD have maxed W after Q, I just dont think I ever did lol. It didnt really matter though. Just knowing how to handle q was enough to stop through most everyone.

And by handle q I mean never press it.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
Navi
Profile Joined November 2009
5286 Posts
February 29 2012 20:16 GMT
#270
get spin at level 1 if you are stronger level 1
much better than q for forcing good trades as the heal at level 1 is fairly insignificant and you open yourself to the chance of getting a crit much easier
i've seen a lot of good tryndameres do this
Hey! Listen!
arnath
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1317 Posts
February 29 2012 20:20 GMT
#271
What masteries are people running for jungle Olaf?
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
February 29 2012 20:21 GMT
#272
On March 01 2012 05:20 arnath wrote:
What masteries are people running for jungle Olaf?

armpen, armor, mr/lvl, flat ad.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
Shiv.
Profile Joined January 2011
3534 Posts
February 29 2012 20:26 GMT
#273
On March 01 2012 05:21 Two_DoWn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2012 05:20 arnath wrote:
What masteries are people running for jungle Olaf?

armpen, armor, mr/lvl, flat ad.

Duh.
I've been experimenting a bit and I like 21/0/9 with the MS boost the best.
currently rooting for myself.
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
February 29 2012 20:27 GMT
#274
On March 01 2012 05:26 Shiv. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2012 05:21 Two_DoWn wrote:
On March 01 2012 05:20 arnath wrote:
What masteries are people running for jungle Olaf?

armpen, armor, mr/lvl, flat ad.

Duh.
I've been experimenting a bit and I like 21/0/9 with the MS boost the best.

I had been running 0-21-9 simply for the extra tank.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
Shiv.
Profile Joined January 2011
3534 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-29 20:37:14
February 29 2012 20:34 GMT
#275
On March 01 2012 05:27 Two_DoWn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2012 05:26 Shiv. wrote:
On March 01 2012 05:21 Two_DoWn wrote:
On March 01 2012 05:20 arnath wrote:
What masteries are people running for jungle Olaf?

armpen, armor, mr/lvl, flat ad.

Duh.
I've been experimenting a bit and I like 21/0/9 with the MS boost the best.

I had been running 0-21-9 simply for the extra tank.

I considered that too, and I think after further testing I might realize it's better than 21 in offensive. He deals pretty good amounts of damage either way, so I guess the ability to stick to targets better is pretty neat and 21 defense offers just that. Do you find yourself missing the 10% ArP a lot or is that pretty trivial for jungle Olaf? Thinking about it, he probably won't have the heaviest autos anyway and if I'm not mistaken, none of his skills really scale of 10% ArP besides the lifesteal portion of his W but the difference shouldn't be noticable.
currently rooting for myself.
epoc
Profile Joined December 2010
Finland1190 Posts
February 29 2012 20:40 GMT
#276
Lol 1100 elo too hilarious. Tower dived full health corki as 400 health olaf. Killed tower too as it was at 100 health after. Was 13/0/2 though
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
February 29 2012 20:41 GMT
#277
On March 01 2012 05:34 Shiv. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2012 05:27 Two_DoWn wrote:
On March 01 2012 05:26 Shiv. wrote:
On March 01 2012 05:21 Two_DoWn wrote:
On March 01 2012 05:20 arnath wrote:
What masteries are people running for jungle Olaf?

armpen, armor, mr/lvl, flat ad.

Duh.
I've been experimenting a bit and I like 21/0/9 with the MS boost the best.

I had been running 0-21-9 simply for the extra tank.

I considered that too, and I think after further testing I might realize it's better than 21 in offensive. He deals pretty good amounts of damage either way, so I guess the ability to stick to targets better is pretty neat and 21 defense offers just that. Do you find yourself missing the 10% ArP a lot or is that pretty trivial for jungle Olaf? Thinking about it, he probably won't have the heaviest autos anyway and if I'm not mistaken, none of his skills really scale of 10% ArP besides the lifesteal portion of his W but the difference shouldn't be noticable.

I really never find mysef missing the % pen, no. Nor to I particularly care for any of the high points in the O tree. Besides, I go pretty light on defense for my item buys, so extra tank is welcome in that sense.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
February 29 2012 20:49 GMT
#278
solo queue is such a draining experience
why are there so many angry people
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
phyvo
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States5635 Posts
February 29 2012 20:49 GMT
#279
CLG.eu playing Mouz in some qualifier on snoopeh/wickd streams, TSM playing SK (dunno if it's a scrim or what.)
"BE A MANGO TO SLEEP LIKE A SNORING TIGER" - Monte
anmolsinghmzn2009
Profile Joined June 2011
India1783 Posts
February 29 2012 20:50 GMT
#280
Ugh I think I should wait before unlocking fiora afterall. I've already got the IP saved up but doesnt hurt to wait a few days to see if she's actually any good/gets any hotfixes before spending that 6k.
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