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Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
February 29 2012 20:56 GMT
#281
On March 01 2012 05:49 gtrsrs wrote:
solo queue is such a draining experience
why are there so many angry people

because it's obviously the Karma's fault that we're always engaging 4v5 at half hp.
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gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
February 29 2012 20:57 GMT
#282
On March 01 2012 05:56 Mogwai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2012 05:49 gtrsrs wrote:
solo queue is such a draining experience
why are there so many angry people

because it's obviously the Karma's fault that we're always engaging 4v5 at half hp.


yes, and it's soraka's fault that our mid swain with blue died to enemy nautilus then mundo ran in after and gave him another kill. like after that they literally started bashing me in all-chat for having a team tag in front of my name. dat rage
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-29 21:08:46
February 29 2012 21:07 GMT
#283
Oh gawd, I hate fiora jungle first few clears are such a bitch. But after first 2-3 clears its a lot easier.

My item build with her in jungle is. Cloth-5pot, ->madreds->boots->wrigs->merc boots->phage->witsend->bt->frozmallet.

Some things that I noticed more, is that her ganks are weak, because she doesn't have any good cc. But she does hit fairly hard if she can stick on the enemy.

Haven't really quite tried fiora top lane. (i'd assume she'd be sorta beasty, due to passive, and great steroid)

Anyone else got anything to attribute to this new champ?
liftlift > tsm
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
February 29 2012 21:08 GMT
#284
On March 01 2012 05:50 anmolsinghmzn2009 wrote:
Ugh I think I should wait before unlocking fiora afterall. I've already got the IP saved up but doesnt hurt to wait a few days to see if she's actually any good/gets any hotfixes before spending that 6k.

She's probably not any good at all, but as I said earlier I'm going to instabuy her as long as she's not super OP =P I love playing with "ghetto" champions that most people don't like.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
February 29 2012 21:12 GMT
#285
On March 01 2012 05:56 Mogwai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2012 05:49 gtrsrs wrote:
solo queue is such a draining experience
why are there so many angry people

because it's obviously the Karma's fault that we're always engaging 4v5 at half hp.


That's why Karma's kit has a leash. Just follow the idiots around all game with your w attached to them.

"Karma, what are you doing?"
"Walking the dog. I wouldn't want it to run across the street and get hit by a car."
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
red_
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8474 Posts
February 29 2012 21:13 GMT
#286
On March 01 2012 06:07 wei2coolman wrote:
Oh gawd, I hate fiora jungle first few clears are such a bitch. But after first 2-3 clears its a lot easier.

My item build with her in jungle is. Cloth-5pot, ->madreds->boots->wrigs->merc boots->phage->witsend->bt->frozmallet.

Some things that I noticed more, is that her ganks are weak, because she doesn't have any good cc. But she does hit fairly hard if she can stick on the enemy.

Haven't really quite tried fiora top lane. (i'd assume she'd be sorta beasty, due to passive, and great steroid)

Anyone else got anything to attribute to this new champ?


The passive is weak, and the steroid is terrible. I'm guessing she's actually going to have trouble finding a place in current meta until they boost some numbers, maybe fix her Q to apply auto attacks.
How did the experience of working at Mr Burns' Nuclear Plant influence Homer's composition of the Iliad and Odyssey?
phyvo
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States5635 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-29 21:18:51
February 29 2012 21:13 GMT
#287
On March 01 2012 06:08 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2012 05:50 anmolsinghmzn2009 wrote:
Ugh I think I should wait before unlocking fiora afterall. I've already got the IP saved up but doesnt hurt to wait a few days to see if she's actually any good/gets any hotfixes before spending that 6k.

She's probably not any good at all, but as I said earlier I'm going to instabuy her as long as she's not super OP =P I love playing with "ghetto" champions that most people don't like.


What's not to like? She is master yi with boobs.

I suppose she doesn't have 7 eyes or sword boots but I guess you can't have everything.

Only applies to low Elo I guess. Was Morde huehuehue ghetto?

edit: man this post feels crappy. Oh well.
"BE A MANGO TO SLEEP LIKE A SNORING TIGER" - Monte
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
February 29 2012 21:15 GMT
#288
On March 01 2012 06:13 red_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2012 06:07 wei2coolman wrote:
Oh gawd, I hate fiora jungle first few clears are such a bitch. But after first 2-3 clears its a lot easier.

My item build with her in jungle is. Cloth-5pot, ->madreds->boots->wrigs->merc boots->phage->witsend->bt->frozmallet.

Some things that I noticed more, is that her ganks are weak, because she doesn't have any good cc. But she does hit fairly hard if she can stick on the enemy.

Haven't really quite tried fiora top lane. (i'd assume she'd be sorta beasty, due to passive, and great steroid)

Anyone else got anything to attribute to this new champ?


The passive is weak, and the steroid is terrible. I'm guessing she's actually going to have trouble finding a place in current meta until they boost some numbers, maybe fix her Q to apply auto attacks.

120%as for 3 seconds is bad? :O So strong imo. I think her W needs to reflect % dmg back, as opposed to flat magic damage,.

Her Q is okay ish, I sorta wish it was a skillshot dash as opposed to a targeted dash. Her ulti does absurds amount of damage, to single target, and to groups of target.
liftlift > tsm
red_
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8474 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-29 21:24:56
February 29 2012 21:19 GMT
#289
On March 01 2012 06:15 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2012 06:13 red_ wrote:
On March 01 2012 06:07 wei2coolman wrote:
Oh gawd, I hate fiora jungle first few clears are such a bitch. But after first 2-3 clears its a lot easier.

My item build with her in jungle is. Cloth-5pot, ->madreds->boots->wrigs->merc boots->phage->witsend->bt->frozmallet.

Some things that I noticed more, is that her ganks are weak, because she doesn't have any good cc. But she does hit fairly hard if she can stick on the enemy.

Haven't really quite tried fiora top lane. (i'd assume she'd be sorta beasty, due to passive, and great steroid)

Anyone else got anything to attribute to this new champ?


The passive is weak, and the steroid is terrible. I'm guessing she's actually going to have trouble finding a place in current meta until they boost some numbers, maybe fix her Q to apply auto attacks.

120%as for 3 seconds is bad? :O So strong imo. I think her W needs to reflect % dmg back, as opposed to flat magic damage,.

Her Q is okay ish, I sorta wish it was a skillshot dash as opposed to a targeted dash. Her ulti does absurds amount of damage, to single target, and to groups of target.


You're not going to be leveling the steroid(partially because it's bad though) to get it to 120%, because Q and W are clearly better(Q solid damage even without the auto attack hits, W passive). Even if you were though, people have already discussed how clumsy it is.

Edit: Her E doesn't even work on towers, if you melee a tower it doesn't lengthen it or proc the movespeed bonus, real gay.
How did the experience of working at Mr Burns' Nuclear Plant influence Homer's composition of the Iliad and Odyssey?
Juicyfruit
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada5484 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-29 21:21:16
February 29 2012 21:19 GMT
#290
On March 01 2012 06:15 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2012 06:13 red_ wrote:
On March 01 2012 06:07 wei2coolman wrote:
Oh gawd, I hate fiora jungle first few clears are such a bitch. But after first 2-3 clears its a lot easier.

My item build with her in jungle is. Cloth-5pot, ->madreds->boots->wrigs->merc boots->phage->witsend->bt->frozmallet.

Some things that I noticed more, is that her ganks are weak, because she doesn't have any good cc. But she does hit fairly hard if she can stick on the enemy.

Haven't really quite tried fiora top lane. (i'd assume she'd be sorta beasty, due to passive, and great steroid)

Anyone else got anything to attribute to this new champ?


The passive is weak, and the steroid is terrible. I'm guessing she's actually going to have trouble finding a place in current meta until they boost some numbers, maybe fix her Q to apply auto attacks.

120%as for 3 seconds is bad? :O So strong imo. I think her W needs to reflect % dmg back, as opposed to flat magic damage,.

Her Q is okay ish, I sorta wish it was a skillshot dash as opposed to a targeted dash. Her ulti does absurds amount of damage, to single target, and to groups of target.


It's not that awesome when you're melee with no cc. Even a slow will interrupt your ability to DPS properly with it.
anmolsinghmzn2009
Profile Joined June 2011
India1783 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-29 21:26:57
February 29 2012 21:22 GMT
#291
On March 01 2012 06:08 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2012 05:50 anmolsinghmzn2009 wrote:
Ugh I think I should wait before unlocking fiora afterall. I've already got the IP saved up but doesnt hurt to wait a few days to see if she's actually any good/gets any hotfixes before spending that 6k.

She's probably not any good at all, but as I said earlier I'm going to instabuy her as long as she's not super OP =P I love playing with "ghetto" champions that most people don't like.

You've been playing longer than me though. My champion pool is still pretty limited. If she doesnt turn out to be good, it makes more sense for me to buy yorick/rumble etc than her.

Also, official forums make me cringe. People saying how she's OP top lane(I remember watching dyrus get absolutely SHIT ON top lane playing her), snowballs easily (as if top doesn't snowball easily anyways) and advocating builds like zerkers, PD, IE, BT. Facepalm. And riot is going to read those posts and be pleased at themselves.
Dunk first. Ask questions while dunking.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
February 29 2012 21:23 GMT
#292
On March 01 2012 06:19 Juicyfruit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2012 06:15 wei2coolman wrote:
On March 01 2012 06:13 red_ wrote:
On March 01 2012 06:07 wei2coolman wrote:
Oh gawd, I hate fiora jungle first few clears are such a bitch. But after first 2-3 clears its a lot easier.

My item build with her in jungle is. Cloth-5pot, ->madreds->boots->wrigs->merc boots->phage->witsend->bt->frozmallet.

Some things that I noticed more, is that her ganks are weak, because she doesn't have any good cc. But she does hit fairly hard if she can stick on the enemy.

Haven't really quite tried fiora top lane. (i'd assume she'd be sorta beasty, due to passive, and great steroid)

Anyone else got anything to attribute to this new champ?


The passive is weak, and the steroid is terrible. I'm guessing she's actually going to have trouble finding a place in current meta until they boost some numbers, maybe fix her Q to apply auto attacks.

120%as for 3 seconds is bad? :O So strong imo. I think her W needs to reflect % dmg back, as opposed to flat magic damage,.

Her Q is okay ish, I sorta wish it was a skillshot dash as opposed to a targeted dash. Her ulti does absurds amount of damage, to single target, and to groups of target.


It's not that awesome when you're melee with no cc.

15%ms bonus stacking 3 times.... you should beable to stick, that's also why i get phage....

right now, I don't know what's better to max first... E or W. I disagree with Q max first. thought the flat damage is nice, i feel its just a utility gap closer to utilize the full potential of E.
liftlift > tsm
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
February 29 2012 21:24 GMT
#293
On March 01 2012 06:22 anmolsinghmzn2009 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2012 06:08 Shikyo wrote:
On March 01 2012 05:50 anmolsinghmzn2009 wrote:
Ugh I think I should wait before unlocking fiora afterall. I've already got the IP saved up but doesnt hurt to wait a few days to see if she's actually any good/gets any hotfixes before spending that 6k.

She's probably not any good at all, but as I said earlier I'm going to instabuy her as long as she's not super OP =P I love playing with "ghetto" champions that most people don't like.

You've been playing longer than me though. My champion pool is still pretty limited. If she doesnt turn out to be good, it makes more sense for me too buy yorick/rumble etc than her.

Also, official forums make me cringe. People saying how she's OP top lane(I remember watching dyrus get absolutely SHIT ON top lane playing her), snowballs easily (as if top doesn't snowball easily anyways) and advocating builds like zerkers, PD, IE, BT. Facepalm. And riot is going to read those posts and be pleased at themselves.

Tbh Dyrus and his entire team was doing pretty shit.
liftlift > tsm
Juicyfruit
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada5484 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-29 21:44:01
February 29 2012 21:29 GMT
#294
On March 01 2012 06:23 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2012 06:19 Juicyfruit wrote:
On March 01 2012 06:15 wei2coolman wrote:
On March 01 2012 06:13 red_ wrote:
On March 01 2012 06:07 wei2coolman wrote:
Oh gawd, I hate fiora jungle first few clears are such a bitch. But after first 2-3 clears its a lot easier.

My item build with her in jungle is. Cloth-5pot, ->madreds->boots->wrigs->merc boots->phage->witsend->bt->frozmallet.

Some things that I noticed more, is that her ganks are weak, because she doesn't have any good cc. But she does hit fairly hard if she can stick on the enemy.

Haven't really quite tried fiora top lane. (i'd assume she'd be sorta beasty, due to passive, and great steroid)

Anyone else got anything to attribute to this new champ?


The passive is weak, and the steroid is terrible. I'm guessing she's actually going to have trouble finding a place in current meta until they boost some numbers, maybe fix her Q to apply auto attacks.

120%as for 3 seconds is bad? :O So strong imo. I think her W needs to reflect % dmg back, as opposed to flat magic damage,.

Her Q is okay ish, I sorta wish it was a skillshot dash as opposed to a targeted dash. Her ulti does absurds amount of damage, to single target, and to groups of target.


It's not that awesome when you're melee with no cc.

15%ms bonus stacking 3 times.... you should beable to stick, that's also why i get phage....

right now, I don't know what's better to max first... E or W. I disagree with Q max first. thought the flat damage is nice, i feel its just a utility gap closer to utilize the full potential of E.


Well, in the best case scenario, where everything goes according to plan, you get 3 extra attacks out of it which is NICE, but kind of lackluster when it's the crux of your whole kit.

I mean, if your team is stomping the shit out of the other team, then yeah, you can just roll them over with the constant CD-refresh on E. I think that's where the whole pub stomping aspect of her comes from, really.
Mysticvoid
Profile Joined February 2011
United States39 Posts
February 29 2012 21:31 GMT
#295
Snoopeh recorded one of this jungle games with Fiora. Snoop is CLG-EUs jungle for anyone that doesn't know. He is probably one of my favorite players.

http://www.own3d.tv/video/489477/Snoopeh_Jungle_FIORA___ It's a pretty good watch.
Weeeeee
Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-29 21:38:29
February 29 2012 21:33 GMT
#296
On March 01 2012 05:34 Shiv. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2012 05:27 Two_DoWn wrote:
On March 01 2012 05:26 Shiv. wrote:
On March 01 2012 05:21 Two_DoWn wrote:
On March 01 2012 05:20 arnath wrote:
What masteries are people running for jungle Olaf?

armpen, armor, mr/lvl, flat ad.

Duh.
I've been experimenting a bit and I like 21/0/9 with the MS boost the best.

I had been running 0-21-9 simply for the extra tank.

I considered that too, and I think after further testing I might realize it's better than 21 in offensive. He deals pretty good amounts of damage either way, so I guess the ability to stick to targets better is pretty neat and 21 defense offers just that. Do you find yourself missing the 10% ArP a lot or is that pretty trivial for jungle Olaf? Thinking about it, he probably won't have the heaviest autos anyway and if I'm not mistaken, none of his skills really scale of 10% ArP besides the lifesteal portion of his W but the difference shouldn't be noticable.


I've experimented a bit with ghostblade+arpen red/quints. In combination with his ulti's passive, basically everything against squishies is true damage, and it gives him speedboost to get close. Absolutely disgusting amounts of damage against squishies, which in combination with wriggles+w is silly amounts of lifesteal. Still experimenting with ways to not blow up though, HoG+phage+mercs helps, but jungle farm doesn't leave much room for more expensive luxuries. I do run 0/21/9 taking all the MS though.

Porouscloud - NA LoL
sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
February 29 2012 21:40 GMT
#297
Dyrus did terribly. Snoopeh on the other hand was an unstoppable dunking machine with her, he got like 4 quadra kills.
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anmolsinghmzn2009
Profile Joined June 2011
India1783 Posts
February 29 2012 21:43 GMT
#298
looking at the wiki, her ult cooldown is kinda ridiculous . . .
Dunk first. Ask questions while dunking.
57 Corvette
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada5941 Posts
February 29 2012 21:44 GMT
#299
I am approaching 6300 IP and I am looking to buy a new backup mage (Ryze and Brand aren't really working for me, idk why).

The ones I am really looking at are Cassiopea, Kennen and Xerath. Which one is most like Gragas in terms of laning and farming up?
Survival is winning, everything else is bullshit.
rwrzr
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1980 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-29 21:47:04
February 29 2012 21:46 GMT
#300
Fun trolly Fiora Build: Wit's End and Ionic Spark -> Frozen Hammer

After Wriggles and Merc treads.
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