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haflo
140 Posts
we played decently together and went 15 wins 0 losses , which was quite fun. Yesterday i solo queued once again , and swiftly went 0 wins 10 losses , could not win a game for the life of me. is that "payment" for teaming up ? or just bad luck / coincidence ? was wondering if i should be careful when teaming up . | ||
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Zhiroo
Kosovo2724 Posts
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qanik
Denmark1899 Posts
On February 20 2012 20:25 haflo wrote: Two days ago for the first time i teamed up with a friend for multiple normal solo queues. we played decently together and went 15 wins 0 losses , which was quite fun. Yesterday i solo queued once again , and swiftly went 0 wins 10 losses , could not win a game for the life of me. is that "payment" for teaming up ? or just bad luck / coincidence ? was wondering if i should be careful when teaming up . From my experience it's not luck. When you win that many games in a row, your normal elo will be high enough to be grouped with much worse(low elo) players against decent opponents. And the games are most of the time uncarriable. | ||
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nyxnyxnyx
Indonesia2978 Posts
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rob.au
1087 Posts
On February 20 2012 20:28 Zhiroo wrote: How do you deal with someone who has crit runes and you just can't trade him since he crits too much? go back to fountain and hope they don't crit you so much next time. | ||
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ihasaKAROT
Netherlands4730 Posts
On February 20 2012 22:15 rob.au wrote: go back to fountain and hope they don't crit you so much next time. Attack them back since they lack defense Wait till lategame where u crit harder | ||
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Wetty
Australia419 Posts
On February 20 2012 16:18 Mogwai wrote: finally got around to starting up a gaming blog. gonna try to keep myself honest about posting frequently, but we'll see how that goes... anyway, it's up and I just made my first post about Solo Queue Mentality here: http://mogwaismusings.wordpress.com/2012/02/20/soloqueuementality/ I wish more people had this attitude. Great writeup and a great outlook on solo Queue. Thanks! | ||
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zer0das
United States8519 Posts
On the other hand, there are a lot more jokers in solo queue. :> | ||
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ihasaKAROT
Netherlands4730 Posts
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Tal
United Kingdom1017 Posts
On February 20 2012 16:18 Mogwai wrote: finally got around to starting up a gaming blog. gonna try to keep myself honest about posting frequently, but we'll see how that goes... anyway, it's up and I just made my first post about Solo Queue Mentality here: http://mogwaismusings.wordpress.com/2012/02/20/soloqueuementality/ Can you (or anyone) copypaste this here? The site (like a lot of blogging sites) is blocked in China, but I'd like to read it. Cheers Edit: thankyou Roffles and Mordek for the PMs  Reading now. | ||
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Hidden_MotiveS
Canada2562 Posts
On February 20 2012 20:25 haflo wrote: Two days ago for the first time i teamed up with a friend for multiple normal solo queues. we played decently together and went 15 wins 0 losses , which was quite fun. Yesterday i solo queued once again , and swiftly went 0 wins 10 losses , could not win a game for the life of me. is that "payment" for teaming up ? or just bad luck / coincidence ? was wondering if i should be careful when teaming up . Yes. That's how ELO works. On February 20 2012 20:28 Zhiroo wrote: How do you deal with someone who has crit runes and you just can't trade him since he crits too much? I'd assume you'd just need to outtrade them. | ||
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Ziken
Ghana1743 Posts
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Craton
United States17274 Posts
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petered
United States1817 Posts
On February 20 2012 23:56 Ziken wrote: So guys, Im just curious, I havent really done any maths, but is there any situation in which you would buy a tiamat other than for laughs? Assuming you were super ahead or something. I can only think of malphite, that too if youre super fed. Not sure if the tiamat procs on the aoe of his melee. Havent done the math but I think stat wise it is a pretty decent item, even excluding the aoe component. The real problem is the combination of stats. Most champs looking for a cost effective source of midgame damage (usually bruisers) also want defense, making items like wriggles and phage quite popular. Tiamat is only good on champs who want tje damage but dont need the defense and also dont need arpen (or else you just get bruta). Put all that together and I have found a single champ where it actually is pretty good: poppy. | ||
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spinesheath
Germany8679 Posts
On February 21 2012 00:13 petered wrote: Havent done the math but I think stat wise it is a pretty decent item, even excluding the aoe component. The real problem is the combination of stats. Most champs looking for a cost effective source of midgame damage (usually bruisers) also want defense, making items like wriggles and phage quite popular. Tiamat is only good on champs who want tje damage but dont need the defense and also dont need arpen (or else you just get bruta). Put all that together and I have found a single champ where it actually is pretty good: poppy. Tiamat has a gold efficiency of ~1.4 if you count the regen for the full cost. That's bad considering the price range, no item to build it into, and the weak combination of stats. It's not good on Poppy, as it has no burst potential. Sheen + Philo is pretty much straight up better on her, and if you already have those, Trinity Force is the better choice. | ||
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petered
United States1817 Posts
On February 21 2012 00:27 spinesheath wrote: Tiamat has a gold efficiency of ~1.4 if you count the regen for the full cost. That's bad considering the price range, no item to build it into, and the weak combination of stats. It's not good on Poppy, as it has no burst potential. Sheen + Philo is pretty much straight up better on her, and if you already have those, Trinity Force is the better choice. Didn't mean that it was the correct build, just that she is the only champ it makes sense on. while I also build philo sheen, it does mean that you have absolutely no ability to push a lane, meaning most top lanrrs can push a wave then help their team with objectives while sheen poppy is taking forever just to not miss cs. Anyway, didn't mean to say it is the best build, since I always go tri in ranked games, but tiamats on poppy isn't bad either. | ||
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Two_DoWn
United States13684 Posts
On February 20 2012 16:24 Ziken wrote: So I started following the LoL pro scene a bit later (around dreamhack when fnatic won), I've always been curious, it says below saints stream he switched from tsm to clg. Whats the story behind that??? Saint got offered a sub spot on CLG cuz Kobe24 had been playing less and less. Doublelift actually got picked up at the same time. Saint took it cuz you really cant decline an invite to TSM- itd be like being offered a full scholarship to go to stanford and then choosing to go to your local community college. Then Kobe REALLY stopped playing, saint became the full time jungler, everyone on CLG realized double was brain dead (this was back when he only played blitz) so they never played him. He left to join EG before landing on curse and learning how to play AD carry, even if he is still brain dead. Although I would go so far as to say that SV is the only person who Regi actually respects in this game. Whenever they play/q together Saint is able to control regi, something I have never seen anyone else do (I mean just look at TSM X( ) | ||
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Doctorbeat
Netherlands13241 Posts
On February 21 2012 01:02 Two_DoWn wrote: Saint got offered a sub spot on CLG cuz Kobe24 had been playing less and less. Doublelift actually got picked up at the same time. Saint took it cuz you really cant decline an invite to TSM- itd be like being offered a full scholarship to go to stanford and then choosing to go to your local community college. Then Kobe REALLY stopped playing, saint became the full time jungler, everyone on CLG realized double was brain dead (this was back when he only played blitz) so they never played him. He left to join EG before landing on curse and learning how to play AD carry, even if he is still brain dead. Although I would go so far as to say that SV is the only person who Regi actually respects in this game. Whenever they play/q together Saint is able to control regi, something I have never seen anyone else do (I mean just look at TSM X( ) That's one of the main reasons that CDE did so great. Regi had respect for his jungler. | ||
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gerd1022
United States58 Posts
On February 20 2012 21:04 nyxnyxnyx wrote: what does 4not stand for? 4 no trump? of course. "initiation of the Blackwood convention" is their team name. Bridge nerds? no? | ||
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Tal
United Kingdom1017 Posts
On February 20 2012 23:51 Tal wrote: Can you (or anyone) copypaste this here? The site (like a lot of blogging sites) is blocked in China, but I'd like to read it. Cheers Edit: thankyou Roffles and Mordek for the PMs Reading now. Good blog -I've played a lot of random games and so I'm on the same page as you with the card gaming analogy. Seeing the randomness as part of the game is helpful, particularly after playing Starcraft. However, I'm not totally sure about the example at the end of the player making the same 'correct play' 9 times in a row, and then doing it the 10th. The difference with LOL is that the right play depends on your team mates. For example, something that often happens in my games is that there is farm available in one or two of the lanes, no pressing objectives, and I want to go farm. I know it's the best play. However, my team decides they'd rather mess around and go looking for a team fight. Suddenly my 'optimal' play is now a mistake, because my team will (stupidly) engage 4vs5, and lose. Other games this doesn't happen, and so I can go farm peacefully, and it's the right play. But the game when I've got an aggressive team, staying with them all the time is much more likely to result in a win. The reverse of this is initiating when you catch someone out of position, with the expectation that your team will rapidly respond to your pinging. In fact, they delay precious seconds doing god knows what, and you die. You know with perfect play that engage was right, but actually you'd have been better not doing it. So maybe the first time (in that specific game) you die and curse. But if you do the same thing, in the same game again, then you kind of have it coming. Essentially what I'm trying to say is that because you have team mates, even the optimal plays aren't always optimal, and it's important to see that. | ||
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