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Same rules apply, per usual. Please use the appropriate threads (QQ, Brag, Champion, etc) whenever appropriate. Keep the resident Banling content.

Thanks. Happy Gaming.
Tooplark
Profile Joined October 2008
United States3977 Posts
February 20 2012 05:14 GMT
#1681
On super high sustain champs (WW, Vlad) you need just enough health to survive however much burst you take up front.
WHAT POW'R ART THOU WHO FROM BELOW HAST MADE ME RISE UNWILLINGLY AND SLOW
BlackMagister
Profile Joined October 2008
United States5834 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-20 05:23:00
February 20 2012 05:21 GMT
#1682
On February 20 2012 13:51 Two_DoWn wrote:
Yes, go there.

However, it IS perfectly acceptable to have a "why do all the negatron items suck balls on bruisers" discussion here.

Cuz they do. Unless you have 4k health.

I have the WW thread subscribed to, but I've seen 0 new posts in the past few days there. Subscribe your favorite champs thread talk there.

Oh and just so this isn't totally pointless here is TMI post. You know ladder anxiety. I get really bad anxiety in any game it was worse when I was playing sc2 ladder mostly my body and hands would shake a lot as the match starts then go away in a min or less with minimal effects later on. It's the same in LoL even though I just play normals to much lesser degree, but a new symptom is that I always need to poop as soon as my que pops which are near instant. So I'm like "FUCK do I dodge or pick a champ while needing to poop and hope I get back in time?" Usually I go with the later which has been a problem a few times... So yeah LoL good for my constipation.
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
February 20 2012 05:23 GMT
#1683
On February 20 2012 14:21 BlackMagister wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2012 13:51 Two_DoWn wrote:
Yes, go there.

However, it IS perfectly acceptable to have a "why do all the negatron items suck balls on bruisers" discussion here.

Cuz they do. Unless you have 4k health.

I have the WW thread subscribed to, but I've seen 0 new posts in the past few days there. Subscribe your favorite champs thread talk there.

Oh and just so this isn't totally pointless here is TMI post. You know ladder anxiety. I get really bad anxiety in any game it was worse when I was playing sc2 ladder mostly my body and hands would shake a lot as the match starts then go away in a min or less with minimal effects later on. It's the same in LoL even though I just play normals to much lesser degree, but a new symptom is that I always need to poop as soon as my que pops which are near instant. So I'm like "FUCK do I dodge or pick a champ while needing to poop and hope I get back in time?" Usually I go with the later which has been a problem a few times... So yeah LoL good for my constipation.

...
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
Hidden_MotiveS
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada2562 Posts
February 20 2012 05:26 GMT
#1684
On February 20 2012 14:06 anmolsinghmzn2009 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2012 13:51 Two_DoWn wrote:
Yes, go there.

However, it IS perfectly acceptable to have a "why do all the negatron items suck balls on bruisers" discussion here.

Cuz they do. Unless you have 4k health.

Yea never upgrade the negatron until the end. Waste of gold.

Edit: LOL saint - I'm gonna keep charging in like a retard till we teach you to be aggressive jiji

Look at all we're teaching each other. TL advancing game knowledge, frontier of LoL development
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17235 Posts
February 20 2012 05:36 GMT
#1685
QSS is an excellent item to get on any type of champion if you've already got the Negatron.
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aRyuujin
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States5049 Posts
February 20 2012 05:57 GMT
#1686
So, a friend and I are thinking about getting into YouTube casting some games. Seeing as it's LoL, though, with all of it's replay problems, how would we go about doing this?
can i get my estro logo back pls
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
February 20 2012 06:27 GMT
#1687
On February 20 2012 14:36 Craton wrote:
QSS is an excellent item to get on any type of champion if you've already got the Negatron.

Whoa, since when was doublelift on TL forums? huehuehuehuehue

on another note, SV's Frozmallet Idea not bad at all, not bad.

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boots3pot,
into madreds
phage
frozenmallet
wriggles
wits end.
then w.e.

Also this game might look like a rofl stomp, but at one point the Shyvanna was like 7-2, and Ziggz was 6-1, and my shen 0-4.

I really really liked frozenmallet, it just makes life so much easier, that in combo with frozen heart + wits end, you'll be ridiculously powerful.
liftlift > tsm
Frost
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Korea (South)1042 Posts
February 20 2012 06:32 GMT
#1688
Warwick is indeed super strong right now. He is able to trade hits more efficiently when played as solo top because of his passive.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-20 06:38:17
February 20 2012 06:32 GMT
#1689
I'm not convinced that you were more effective with Mallet + Bloodrazor than you would have been with Triforce + GA.

Honestly, Mallet is terribly cost-ineffective, and unlike other Mallet users, Mallet isn't giving Warwick stats that really suit him (plain AD and HP aren't stats that Warwick needs really badly). You're basically paying overly much for the upgrade to the slow, and it's not worth the investment.
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wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-20 06:44:00
February 20 2012 06:39 GMT
#1690
On February 20 2012 15:32 TheYango wrote:
I'm not convinced that you were more effective with Mallet + Bloodrazor than you would have been with Triforce + GA.

I definitely felt like that I did more dmg, was more effective in beginning of fights, and towards end of fights. After carrying my team in a lot of fights I was often finding myself cleaning up fights. Not to mention it prevents squishies from kiting you all day. The frozenmallet let me stay on ziggs, and cait for entire fights at a time, rather than getting kited.

Also, the extra 700 hp helps a shit ton, you'd be surprised how often I get front loaded by everyone.

EDIT: I'm a fucking mutalisk now. W0000t!
liftlift > tsm
tobi9999
Profile Joined April 2009
United States1966 Posts
February 20 2012 06:44 GMT
#1691
just tried shen..............

mind boggling at how op it is......... Especially since it was my first time shen.
Funny how people started banning it before they even saw it in action though.
"tobi is ur iq 9999? cuz i think it might be u so smart wowowow." -Artosis
Zdrastochye
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-20 06:46:36
February 20 2012 06:45 GMT
#1692
On February 20 2012 15:32 TheYango wrote:
I'm not convinced that you were more effective with Mallet + Bloodrazor than you would have been with Triforce + GA.

Honestly, Mallet is terribly cost-ineffective, and unlike other Mallet users, Mallet isn't giving Warwick stats that really suit him (plain AD and HP aren't stats that Warwick needs really badly). You're basically paying overly much for the upgrade to the slow, and it's not worth the investment.


You're putting a price on a situation though, you must agree there are instances in which having a frozen mallet are reasons for picking up kills that would not have happened if you built non-frozen mallet. Idk, I don't think you can really put a price on stuff like that. Statswise nobody would argue with you, but I force you to look beyond the stats themselves, especially compared to not getting a phage at all.
Hey! How you doin'?
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
February 20 2012 06:46 GMT
#1693
On February 20 2012 15:45 Zdrastochye wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2012 15:32 TheYango wrote:
I'm not convinced that you were more effective with Mallet + Bloodrazor than you would have been with Triforce + GA.

Honestly, Mallet is terribly cost-ineffective, and unlike other Mallet users, Mallet isn't giving Warwick stats that really suit him (plain AD and HP aren't stats that Warwick needs really badly). You're basically paying overly much for the upgrade to the slow, and it's not worth the investment.


You're putting a price on a situation though, you must agree there are instances in which having a frozen mallet are reasons for picking up kills that would not have happened if you built non-frozen mallet. Idk, I don't think you can really put a price on stuff like that. Itemwise nobody would argue with you, but I force you to look beyond the stats themselves, especially compared to not getting a phage at all.

I'd agree with yango that majority of the time triforce + ga prolly better buys, but I definitely understand why SV is a huge proponent of FrozMal on WW now.
liftlift > tsm
Zdrastochye
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
February 20 2012 06:47 GMT
#1694
I'm not saying it's a core item, but if you find the right comp to get it versus (kite you forever comps) I think it could possibly be a lynchpin in your build.
Hey! How you doin'?
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-20 06:52:25
February 20 2012 06:48 GMT
#1695
On February 20 2012 15:45 Zdrastochye wrote:
You're putting a price on a situation though, you must agree there are instances in which having a frozen mallet are reasons for picking up kills that would not have happened if you built non-frozen mallet. Idk, I don't think you can really put a price on stuff like that. Itemwise nobody would argue with you, but I force you to look beyond the stats themselves, especially compared to not getting a phage at all.

Why would I make that comparison? The Phage slow is awkward to compare to not having anything at all. Of course I'll get Phage if I need Phage, but it's an exceedingly rare situation where the upgrade to Mallet would be worth the price tag (700 gold for the slow + 1100 gold worth of HP).

On the other hand, you're basically guaranteed a Phage slow proc off your ulti. And with ~2.0 attack speed with Wit's + Triforce + Hunter's Call, you're probably going to re-proc Phage before the slow falls off anyway.
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Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
February 20 2012 07:09 GMT
#1696
Well, judging by my experience and by Saintvicious and Lapaka both agreeing that Frozen Mallet is amazing on Warwick, I'd say that's a non-brainer. But as long as my enemy Warwicks don't make Frozen Mallet I don't really mind.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-20 07:11:12
February 20 2012 07:11 GMT
#1697
no idea why you would buy it over randuins

randuins is so damn good on him
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
February 20 2012 07:18 GMT
#1698
finally got around to starting up a gaming blog. gonna try to keep myself honest about posting frequently, but we'll see how that goes...

anyway, it's up and I just made my first post about Solo Queue Mentality here:
http://mogwaismusings.wordpress.com/2012/02/20/soloqueuementality/
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-20 07:19:47
February 20 2012 07:19 GMT
#1699
SaintVicious has the "I gank your lane, therefore I take 1 wave worth of cs away from you tax."
liftlift > tsm
Ziken
Profile Joined August 2010
Ghana1743 Posts
February 20 2012 07:24 GMT
#1700
So I started following the LoL pro scene a bit later (around dreamhack when fnatic won), I've always been curious, it says below saints stream he switched from tsm to clg. Whats the story behind that???
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