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Same rules apply, per usual. Please use the appropriate threads (QQ, Brag, Champion, etc) whenever appropriate. Keep the resident Banling content.

Thanks. Happy Gaming.
greggy
Profile Joined October 2010
United Kingdom1483 Posts
February 21 2012 23:56 GMT
#2001
On February 22 2012 04:08 unichan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2012 03:59 greggy wrote:
Has anyone had ridiculous amounts of lag since last patch? Literally at every point in time I have at least 300ms spiking to over 1k, while I can play anything else (dota2/sc/bf3) with absolutely no problem.. Really rather frustrating -.-

Not really, but the lag I've been getting is different and more annoying than the lag I'd get before when my internet went poopy

I've been having the same problem as this thread since the patch
http://euw.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=587299

really unbearable, not sure what to do :@
turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-22 00:00:26
February 21 2012 23:58 GMT
#2002
On February 22 2012 08:45 Seuss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2012 08:16 Unentschieden wrote:
Keep in mind that Olaf is inherently better off against Dots and similar damage due to his W and passive. The changes could be really good, especially since Olaf is a secret tip already.


Olaf's passive and W can not remotely compare his ult's current abuse cases.

To explain, assume you're a Malzahar with 400 AP, Sorc Boots, MPen Marks, and Void Staff+Mastery for % Penetration. Your Malefic Visions does 640 damage over 4 seconds, pretty nasty. How much damage do you think Olaf will take if he has 150 MR before penetration?

The answer: 77, or 61 if he also has the Indomitable mastery.

That is why the ult is being changed, it is absolutely ridiculous against period damage. If Olaf's W and Passive were capable of making up for the loss of that mitigation they'd be getting nerfed as well.

Edit: This is incidentally also why Malzahar and Swain are so good against Poppy. Because all of their damage is in tiny increments it largely bypasses her passive.


"guys let me pick olaf to counter their malz"

"omfg fucking noob pick ap"
"fucking scrubs everywhere plz dodge"
"pick ap or i afk"
"ok i troll hard random"

solo queue people > olaf


no one seems to be talking about the fizz buffs ;o his spells are already really cheap, now they are reducing the cost of his ult.
Wala.Revolution
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
7584 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-22 00:03:00
February 22 2012 00:02 GMT
#2003
Are you going to pick olaf just because of how his ult works with damage reduction? Just with ult negating Malz's? Are you going to go vs Malz mid, putting someone else AP top who might be able to play matchups properly if they managed to pick someone viable top?

Malz isn't to be underestimated either.
Stuck.
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
February 22 2012 00:02 GMT
#2004
On February 22 2012 08:55 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2012 08:53 Craton wrote:
Actually I'm pretty sure the ult change has nothing to do with the abuse cases (since nobody plays him and therefore nobody is abusing it) and more to do with trying to make him a more viable pick overall.

Then why did they pick armor/MR values that are an overall survivability nerf in most scenarios?

Iunno...it doesn't really seem like that much of a nerf it at all. Given that break even points are roughly around ~300 damage and lategame most spells will be doing 300 dmg and ADs will be critting every other hit it doesn't seem like a nerf in general. Against period damage and earlier on it's definitely a big nerf, but I'm not convinced that it's an overall nerf. Then again I'm ignoring resist penetration so I could be completely off.

I feel that they're probably just trying to make it more obvious as to what it does?
epoc
Profile Joined December 2010
Finland1190 Posts
February 22 2012 00:03 GMT
#2005
Noo! Teemo buffs. I was always afraid that this day would come
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17303 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-22 00:05:18
February 22 2012 00:03 GMT
#2006
On February 22 2012 08:55 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2012 08:53 Craton wrote:
Actually I'm pretty sure the ult change has nothing to do with the abuse cases (since nobody plays him and therefore nobody is abusing it) and more to do with trying to make him a more viable pick overall.

Then why did they pick armor/MR values that are an overall survivability nerf in most scenarios?

To test out how they'll work out in a live environment. Welcome to the PBE. If it doesn't help where he needs it, they'll adjust the numbers. That's how test realms work.

Malz isn't to be underestimated either.

Malz is pretty bad right now. I suppose there are a handful of people who don't recognize he can do big damage in ideal scenarios by virtue of not having seen him in awhile, but overall he's just in a really bad place.
twitch.tv/cratonz
turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
February 22 2012 00:04 GMT
#2007
On February 22 2012 09:02 Wala.Revolution wrote:
Are you going to pick olaf just because of how his ult works with damage reduction? Just with ult negating Malz's? Are you going to go vs Malz mid, putting someone else AP top who might be able to play matchups properly if they managed to pick someone viable top?

Malz isn't to be underestimated either.


no, im just saying that the kind of numbers olaf can take from malz and be k is something that most people probably have no idea about, because people never let anyone do anything.
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
February 22 2012 00:06 GMT
#2008
On February 22 2012 08:56 greggy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2012 04:08 unichan wrote:
On February 22 2012 03:59 greggy wrote:
Has anyone had ridiculous amounts of lag since last patch? Literally at every point in time I have at least 300ms spiking to over 1k, while I can play anything else (dota2/sc/bf3) with absolutely no problem.. Really rather frustrating -.-

Not really, but the lag I've been getting is different and more annoying than the lag I'd get before when my internet went poopy

I've been having the same problem as this thread since the patch
http://euw.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=587299

really unbearable, not sure what to do :@


Do you have the Diablo 3 Beta? I realize that's a weird question, but here's what happened to me the other day.

I reinstalled the Diablo 3 Beta because of an error. I forgot to disable P2P transfer in the launcher afterward so I had all sorts of disconnect issues in D3 until I did. I later played LoL and periodically my ping would go crazy and my entire internet would die briefly. The problem was fixed when I restarted my computer.

It's a long shot, but are you playing Diablo 3 before you play LoL without a system restart?
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
February 22 2012 00:18 GMT
#2009
I know of somebody having a good connection and severe lag spikes in LoL, to the point of seeing people run to him, then we hear "Well, I'm dead, lag" and 2 seconds later it happens. He has almost anything on his computer tho (Skype, LoL, and that's about it, dual boot only for LoL).
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
February 22 2012 00:27 GMT
#2010
man, that being featured thing sure draws in numbers to your stream.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
Zhiroo
Profile Joined February 2011
Kosovo2724 Posts
February 22 2012 00:29 GMT
#2011
You owned that Kennen so hard ^^
LoL EuW: Zhiroo - By starting this squabble you've proven nothing but how vast your stupidity is.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
February 22 2012 00:31 GMT
#2012
On February 22 2012 09:02 Ryuu314 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2012 08:55 TheYango wrote:
On February 22 2012 08:53 Craton wrote:
Actually I'm pretty sure the ult change has nothing to do with the abuse cases (since nobody plays him and therefore nobody is abusing it) and more to do with trying to make him a more viable pick overall.

Then why did they pick armor/MR values that are an overall survivability nerf in most scenarios?

Iunno...it doesn't really seem like that much of a nerf it at all. Given that break even points are roughly around ~300 damage and lategame most spells will be doing 300 dmg and ADs will be critting every other hit it doesn't seem like a nerf in general. Against period damage and earlier on it's definitely a big nerf, but I'm not convinced that it's an overall nerf. Then again I'm ignoring resist penetration so I could be completely off.

I feel that they're probably just trying to make it more obvious as to what it does?

Breakeven is 300 damage vs 80 armor/MR. If you go to 150 armor/MR, the breakeven rises to something like 500 damage.
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Cloud9157
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2968 Posts
February 22 2012 00:32 GMT
#2013
On February 22 2012 09:27 Mogwai wrote:
man, that being featured thing sure draws in numbers to your stream.


Your last hits were pretty good. Some intense duels with that Kennen as well.
"Are you absolutely sure that armor only affects the health portion of a protoss army??? That doesn't sound right to me. source?" -Some idiot
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
February 22 2012 00:33 GMT
#2014
On February 22 2012 09:03 epoc wrote:
Noo! Teemo buffs. I was always afraid that this day would come

Finally, time to bust out the fuzzy ranged tanky dps without being called a troll.
It's your boy Guzma!
Tooplark
Profile Joined October 2008
United States3977 Posts
February 22 2012 00:43 GMT
#2015
On February 22 2012 09:33 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2012 09:03 epoc wrote:
Noo! Teemo buffs. I was always afraid that this day would come

Finally, time to bust out the fuzzy ranged tanky dps without being called a troll.

You will still be a troll.
You will merely be trolling the ENEMY team.
WHAT POW'R ART THOU WHO FROM BELOW HAST MADE ME RISE UNWILLINGLY AND SLOW
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
February 22 2012 00:50 GMT
#2016
You can now activate a timestamp for game chat in the options menu


best change to the UI in ages
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
February 22 2012 00:50 GMT
#2017
"i'm stronger than CLG at smiting"-TOO. i lol'd so hard.
liftlift > tsm
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
February 22 2012 00:57 GMT
#2018
Am I the only one who thinks Shen isn't as amazing as people think he is? Maybe I just haven't played enough games against decent shens...
liftlift > tsm
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-22 00:59:36
February 22 2012 00:59 GMT
#2019
As with any champion who gets buffed there's going to be a lot of people playing him just because he wasn't banned, or because he's OP. That doesn't mean they know how to play him.

Also, some counters are beginning to surface.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
February 22 2012 01:00 GMT
#2020
On February 22 2012 09:57 wei2coolman wrote:
Am I the only one who thinks Shen isn't as amazing as people think he is? Maybe I just haven't played enough games against decent shens...


his laning is strong but his teamfights are atrocious
his energy management is next to impossible with his new costs
they really gutted him lol
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
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