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r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14081 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-01 08:20:53
February 01 2012 08:20 GMT
#121
On February 01 2012 17:17 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
4 game solo queue win streak with ad sona rofl. soooo much fun


I had one game where I played Sona and took 2 cs, my AD said "go fucking try to outfarm me faggot"

So I did.

AD Sona legit imo.


PS: FINALLY MY FIRST PENTA FUCK YES
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
February 01 2012 08:22 GMT
#122
Pfft I already had my first penta over a year and a half ago with master yi vs a team with 0 CC and got the final kill via fountaindive
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
February 01 2012 08:28 GMT
#123
i penta with ad sona today. did i mention ad sona?

yango/mogwai/etc please write something explaining what makes sona weaker than other ad carries so i know how far i can go with this before i feed
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
February 01 2012 08:33 GMT
#124
On February 01 2012 17:28 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
i penta with ad sona today. did i mention ad sona?

yango/mogwai/etc please write something explaining what makes sona weaker than other ad carries so i know how far i can go with this before i feed

Oh, even I can.

She's extremely incredibly squishy while having no escape mechanism. She's got low base AD and base aspd scaling. She's got no proper AD steroid. She has no skills that scale with AD.

Basically the only thing she has going for her in terms of building AD is synergy with Triforce because of her passive.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-01 08:37:15
February 01 2012 08:35 GMT
#125
her passive hits like a truck though. and her other abilities have utility and don't really need to do damage. i really like her auto animation and i have a really easy time last hitting with her. its nice having a slow and a ghetto heal, and q poke in lane. and her R is still really retarded good
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
February 01 2012 08:37 GMT
#126
yo steve protip from your best friend
AD sona is super strong - try her from the jungle so you can run a legit AD carry too. wriggles zeal -> mass phantom dancers. she clears camps super fast, she has great dueling power thanks to passive and decent ganks (fantastic once ult is up) to boot. i don't know a good route, but i saw a guy go from like 1300 to basically 1800 playing nothing but jungle AD sona
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
February 01 2012 08:37 GMT
#127
my friend and I just trolled our team by picking ashe and janna, then going support ashe and ad janna. Carried, naturally.

I think ad support is the most fun troll in the game, besides maybe commander.
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
ihasaKAROT
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4730 Posts
February 01 2012 08:41 GMT
#128
On February 01 2012 17:37 UniversalSnip wrote:
my friend and I just trolled our team by picking ashe and janna, then going support ashe and ad janna. Carried, naturally.

I think ad support is the most fun troll in the game, besides maybe commander.


Nothing beats a trollteam of Nida, Sona, Soraka, Taric and Janna. So much healing going on lategame , you cant focus anyone down ever.
KCCO!
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-01 08:44:06
February 01 2012 08:43 GMT
#129
On February 01 2012 17:37 gtrsrs wrote:
yo steve protip from your best friend
AD sona is super strong - try her from the jungle so you can run a legit AD carry too. wriggles zeal -> mass phantom dancers. she clears camps super fast, she has great dueling power thanks to passive and decent ganks (fantastic once ult is up) to boot. i don't know a good route, but i saw a guy go from like 1300 to basically 1800 playing nothing but jungle AD sona


oooh i haven't tried jungling as sona yet. in the games i played today i successfully 1v1d a graves, sivir (both our ults LOL), and ezreal because i fucking smashed them in the face with power chord.

i've been going cloth+5 -> wriggles + zerkers + 1-2 dorans -> pd -> ie -> lw

...rofl. its so much fun, seriously try it. half the fun is being charismatic enough that your team doesn't freak out during champ select (4/4 on that front thx)

edit: any trip reports on solo top bruiser taric? :D
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-01 08:46:18
February 01 2012 08:46 GMT
#130
On February 01 2012 17:14 Shikyo wrote:
As in 5-10 mana difference in W and Q and like 10 more dmg on Q and slightly better ulti. She'd barely be perhaps balanced, not OP. She never was OP.

The deal-breaker was her Q having 750 range. NO point-and-click spell in this game has 750 range, and coupled with a silence and good damage, it gave her insane lane control which snowballed super hard.

The 50 range nerf on her Q was by far the biggest nerf in her hotfix, but people underestimate range nerfs and how big of an impact they have.
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Chrispy
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada5878 Posts
February 01 2012 08:46 GMT
#131
Good patch here. The Viktor buff will be nice, vman will be happy. Sivir nerfs are good. Ashe buffs will definitely 100% make Ashe seen more often in solo q.
Retvrn to Forvms
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-01 08:47:22
February 01 2012 08:46 GMT
#132
edit: any trip reports on solo top bruiser taric? :D


I think guitar or one of the TL A guys was running that quite a while back? They ran a full armor page and the idea was to win lane on pure armor, called it armor taric.
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
February 01 2012 08:47 GMT
#133
On February 01 2012 17:46 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2012 17:14 Shikyo wrote:
As in 5-10 mana difference in W and Q and like 10 more dmg on Q and slightly better ulti. She'd barely be perhaps balanced, not OP. She never was OP.

The deal-breaker was her Q having 750 range. NO point-and-click spell in this game has 750 range, and coupled with a silence and good damage, it gave her insane lane control which snowballed super hard.

The 50 range nerf on her Q was by far the biggest nerf in her hotfix, but people underestimate range nerfs and how big of an impact they have.

It really was 750? Yeah that's imba then, I didn't even remember o.O I didn't know it was 700 now, either.. I thought it was 650
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
February 01 2012 08:49 GMT
#134
On February 01 2012 17:46 UniversalSnip wrote:
Show nested quote +
edit: any trip reports on solo top bruiser taric? :D


I think guitar or one of the TL A guys was running that quite a while back? They ran a full armor page and the idea was to win lane on pure armor, called it armor taric.


niton and i heavily theorycrafted it and then tested it out. it was way better against AD mids. you basically just force the other person out of the lane completely, then lose the game because taric is bad, lol
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
February 01 2012 08:50 GMT
#135
On February 01 2012 17:49 gtrsrs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2012 17:46 UniversalSnip wrote:
edit: any trip reports on solo top bruiser taric? :D


I think guitar or one of the TL A guys was running that quite a while back? They ran a full armor page and the idea was to win lane on pure armor, called it armor taric.


niton and i heavily theorycrafted it and then tested it out. it was way better against AD mids. you basically just force the other person out of the lane completely, then lose the game because taric is bad, lol

Is it not a viable Garen counter though?
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Mondieu
Profile Joined November 2011
Romania803 Posts
February 01 2012 09:02 GMT
#136
Just had a 62 minutes game where they ran AD janna + xerath in the bot lane, obviously frustrating, and well we didn't play it very patiently so we died pretty often. In the end Tristana's range melted janna's face quite rapidly, no chance she was getting 1-2 auto's off before dieing. I'm guessing it's the same for Sona.
Niton
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2395 Posts
February 01 2012 09:14 GMT
#137
On February 01 2012 17:50 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2012 17:49 gtrsrs wrote:
On February 01 2012 17:46 UniversalSnip wrote:
edit: any trip reports on solo top bruiser taric? :D


I think guitar or one of the TL A guys was running that quite a while back? They ran a full armor page and the idea was to win lane on pure armor, called it armor taric.


niton and i heavily theorycrafted it and then tested it out. it was way better against AD mids. you basically just force the other person out of the lane completely, then lose the game because taric is bad, lol

Is it not a viable Garen counter though?


It might work against Garen because Garen is also bad, but unless Taric winds up changed/buffed in some way he's pretty much resigned to the gimmick role because he can't do anything mid/lategame.
tree.hugger: Coming off of [(T)fantasy v. (T)Really] into [(T)Barracks v. (T)MVP] is like coming out of Manhattan into New Jersey. You just have to speed up and ignore it.
Veclada
Profile Joined September 2010
742 Posts
February 01 2012 09:14 GMT
#138
On February 01 2012 17:43 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2012 17:37 gtrsrs wrote:
yo steve protip from your best friend
AD sona is super strong - try her from the jungle so you can run a legit AD carry too. wriggles zeal -> mass phantom dancers. she clears camps super fast, she has great dueling power thanks to passive and decent ganks (fantastic once ult is up) to boot. i don't know a good route, but i saw a guy go from like 1300 to basically 1800 playing nothing but jungle AD sona


oooh i haven't tried jungling as sona yet. in the games i played today i successfully 1v1d a graves, sivir (both our ults LOL), and ezreal because i fucking smashed them in the face with power chord.

i've been going cloth+5 -> wriggles + zerkers + 1-2 dorans -> pd -> ie -> lw

...rofl. its so much fun, seriously try it. half the fun is being charismatic enough that your team doesn't freak out during champ select (4/4 on that front thx)

edit: any trip reports on solo top bruiser taric? :D


at what rating and wich runes/masteries do you run with this?
asdfg
Yttrasil
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden651 Posts
February 01 2012 09:17 GMT
#139
Ziggs looks freaking amazingly fun, one aspect which will be sick fun is to use the explosives to deny enemy lasthitting. I wonder how he'll work out if you try going top with him, mana issues should be problematic.
Meh
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
February 01 2012 09:18 GMT
#140
On February 01 2012 18:14 Veclada wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2012 17:43 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
On February 01 2012 17:37 gtrsrs wrote:
yo steve protip from your best friend
AD sona is super strong - try her from the jungle so you can run a legit AD carry too. wriggles zeal -> mass phantom dancers. she clears camps super fast, she has great dueling power thanks to passive and decent ganks (fantastic once ult is up) to boot. i don't know a good route, but i saw a guy go from like 1300 to basically 1800 playing nothing but jungle AD sona


oooh i haven't tried jungling as sona yet. in the games i played today i successfully 1v1d a graves, sivir (both our ults LOL), and ezreal because i fucking smashed them in the face with power chord.

i've been going cloth+5 -> wriggles + zerkers + 1-2 dorans -> pd -> ie -> lw

...rofl. its so much fun, seriously try it. half the fun is being charismatic enough that your team doesn't freak out during champ select (4/4 on that front thx)

edit: any trip reports on solo top bruiser taric? :D


at what rating and wich runes/masteries do you run with this?


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arpen armor mr, quints ad, 21/0/9 or 21/9/0 depending on the lane
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