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Heed these two simple warnings. It will help make our GD a better place.

Consider this fair notice to all users. Warning will be dished out this patch.

Thanks.
Neo, 31.01.12
Niton
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2395 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-01 09:23:57
February 01 2012 09:23 GMT
#141
Fuck it, time for words. Don't know if this best belongs here, but it's not about "how do I do <x/y>", it's experiences with a playstyle that's been outdated for about half a year now.

Before Taric's changes from 'fairly durable with two good self-heals support' to 'shitty support', you used to be able to run him solo-top (or even, in rare cases, solo-mid). Taric could shit on any sort of traditional AD at the start super, super hard because you have 100 armor and they don't, but he was reliant on the efficiency of Imbue and the fact that he had a secondary heal worth a damn in Radiance. Chalice Taric was absurd in his ability to keep himself and his teammates alive, and the power of Dazzle+Shatter was enough to push the squishy ADs that used to be common out of lane.

Lots has changed since then, of course, but against champions with poor sustain or champions with low HP, it'd probably still work. Of course, like I said before, you couldn't actually win a game running him, but he can win lanes, and that's the question. I'll stop before I veer too far into champion discussion, but if anyone wants to bring it over to the Taric thread, we can talk shop there.
tree.hugger: Coming off of [(T)fantasy v. (T)Really] into [(T)Barracks v. (T)MVP] is like coming out of Manhattan into New Jersey. You just have to speed up and ignore it.
mr_tolkien
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France8631 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-01 09:29:22
February 01 2012 09:29 GMT
#142
Noooooooooooooooes WotA nerf :o Cassio and Kennen just lost a good chunk of imbaness.

Jax buffs are absolutely stupid though.
The legend of Darien lives on
RogerX
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
New Zealand3180 Posts
February 01 2012 09:38 GMT
#143
On February 01 2012 17:06 wussleeQ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2012 16:33 RogerX wrote:
I'm not sure about you, but people are much more understanding of AD Kennen now.

Personally I hate hate hate fighting against a decent AD Kennen bot,

now if only people were more understanding of my AD brand

I approve of AD brand,

He just looks sooo good and I love his auto attack and everything about him ^-----^

But I don't know how his stats are like soooo..
Stick it up. take it up. step aside and see the world
Vibes
Profile Joined November 2008
Germany144 Posts
February 01 2012 09:56 GMT
#144
wow, worst ad carry (ashe) got a nice buff.

most op ad carry (sivir) got a good nerf.

Is this the moment where all carries are viable?
Can't wait to try out these changes!
Just another Jaedong fanboy <3
ihasaKAROT
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4730 Posts
February 01 2012 10:04 GMT
#145
Can someone link to that page with the new skins art displayed? Theres allways one around , just seen it on westrice' stream but couldnt type that fast
KCCO!
fuzzbox
Profile Joined February 2010
235 Posts
February 01 2012 10:07 GMT
#146
speaking of Viktor, apparently someone figured him out before last patch. look up "Terreo" on NA. 83% win ratio in Ranked. he's only around 1600ish, but watch for this guy now that Viktor is actually strong.
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
February 01 2012 10:07 GMT
#147
On February 01 2012 19:04 ihasaKAROT wrote:
Can someone link to that page with the new skins art displayed? Theres allways one around , just seen it on westrice' stream but couldnt type that fast

googled it lol
http://surrenderat20.blogspot.com/2012/02/new-skins-in-ziggs-patch.html
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
emucxg
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Finland4559 Posts
February 01 2012 10:10 GMT
#148
wow, really good patch this time indeed, cant wait for gp nerf and shen buff next patch ^^
anmolsinghmzn2009
Profile Joined June 2011
India1783 Posts
February 01 2012 10:18 GMT
#149
On February 01 2012 17:06 wussleeQ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2012 16:33 RogerX wrote:
I'm not sure about you, but people are much more understanding of AD Kennen now.

Personally I hate hate hate fighting against a decent AD Kennen bot,

now if only people were more understanding of my AD brand


CDR AD malz is the shit dude. Run around with you and 3 voidlings that scale off your AD is imba as hell.
Dunk first. Ask questions while dunking.
Brockster
Profile Joined June 2010
Germany82 Posts
February 01 2012 10:37 GMT
#150
did anyone do the maths for the new mastery already? another noob trap like havoc, or legit? my gut feeling says its good especially for nice ratio scaling champs.
Promises
Profile Joined February 2004
Netherlands1821 Posts
February 01 2012 10:38 GMT
#151
On February 01 2012 19:07 fuzzbox wrote:
speaking of Viktor, apparently someone figured him out before last patch. look up "Terreo" on NA. 83% win ratio in Ranked. he's only around 1600ish, but watch for this guy now that Viktor is actually strong.


Admittedly I don't ranked much, but I've been trying to promote the shit out of Viktor on these forums ^^ He really is quite strong, the only time I feel he falls off is in the real late game; the long cd's and missing itemslot kind of haunt him at that point.
I'm a man of my word, and that word is "unreliable".
Unentschieden
Profile Joined August 2007
Germany1471 Posts
February 01 2012 10:42 GMT
#152
On February 01 2012 19:37 Brockster wrote:
did anyone do the maths for the new mastery already? another noob trap like havoc, or legit? my gut feeling says its good especially for nice ratio scaling champs.


Mathematically it´s about equal overall but since the big advantage was getting a "free" crit in lane and taking advantage of that luck it´s a nerf in practice.
Divine-Sneaker
Profile Joined August 2010
Denmark1225 Posts
February 01 2012 10:53 GMT
#153
Fed sona OP. Sona always seems to somehow get a lot of kills, but no worries she's prit gud. Getting Dcap and Lichbane on sona is fun as hell.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-01 11:16:03
February 01 2012 11:07 GMT
#154
You can download the patch now and the status says servers are online.

Fucking 2 hour downtime. Riot, how you've improved...

Edit: Alas, still buggy. Redditors are reporting that games fail on load screen. At least download and logging in works.
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Cr4zyH0r5e
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Peru1308 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-01 11:23:42
February 01 2012 11:20 GMT
#155
I downloaded the patch, but the 4% crit mastery still there.

edit: nm its re downloading
Diamond 4 Jungle/Support - http://www.twitch.tv/cr4zyh0r5e/c/3051057 Zyra support 101
Sponge75
Profile Joined May 2011
England194 Posts
February 01 2012 11:36 GMT
#156
All that AoE + global from ziggs looks like he's gonna rape on dominion.
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
February 01 2012 11:38 GMT
#157
Just played a bots game with Ziggs, he feels pretty good.

Also, was cool to play a bots team with Kayle, Zilean, and Fiddlesticks.

o.o

His Passive is actually really strong, with AP runes and a Dring it did 40 damage at level one, and when i hit 18 with about 400 ap it did a solid 250 extra damage. I'd also say he is a damn mana hungry champion... but I don't usually play AP carries, so maybe I am just crazy.
DoXa
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Switzerland1448 Posts
February 01 2012 11:39 GMT
#158
jiji and hotshot playing him right know for those who want to see ziggs
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
February 01 2012 11:49 GMT
#159
Can someone who has patched say whether Locket affects minions, and whether multiple lockets can be successively applied in a short duration?
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Doctorbeat
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands13241 Posts
February 01 2012 11:55 GMT
#160
On February 01 2012 20:39 DoXa wrote:
jiji and hotshot playing him right know for those who want to see ziggs


Yeah, he looks damn fun and his ult is great.

I feel like he's pretty much Gragas with more damage, but less escape.
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