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Also, if a woman wants to be a tank she has to be riding a giant pig, OR they have to make a big deal about it and say "hey look guys we made a female tank!!" When was the last time that riot said "finally we made a male [anything]"? How weird would it sound?
in all fairness, leona comes to mind when talking about a female tank. she just ended up playing as a support because it was how she fit in
On February 04 2012 20:02 Roffles wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2012 19:48 DoXa wrote:On February 04 2012 19:37 Attakijing wrote:
I always thought it was pretty insulting that riot made all supports and ranged AD women. the ranged ad thing is more subtle but its still someone who stays out of the fight, and although they can be powerful they are designed to look delicate. You can get away with having an elf girl archer and a magical moon princess support in the beginning of the game but when you are making characters like sona its just too much.
Also, if a woman wants to be a tank she has to be riding a giant pig, OR they have to make a big deal about it and say "hey look guys we made a female tank!!" When was the last time that riot said "finally we made a male [anything]"? How weird would it sound?
Calling bottom lane "the kitchen" is not misogynistic because the characters with more passive abilities in the game are almost all women. That's why people call it such a passive lane. It is shitty that it fits so well but it's not our fault, it's riot's. i was so happy when graves got released! finally a male AD (corki doesn't count). You definitely belong in a museum. \
some people think that ezreal doesn't count 
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On February 04 2012 19:48 DoXa wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2012 19:37 Attakijing wrote:
I always thought it was pretty insulting that riot made all supports and ranged AD women. the ranged ad thing is more subtle but its still someone who stays out of the fight, and although they can be powerful they are designed to look delicate. You can get away with having an elf girl archer and a magical moon princess support in the beginning of the game but when you are making characters like sona its just too much.
Also, if a woman wants to be a tank she has to be riding a giant pig, OR they have to make a big deal about it and say "hey look guys we made a female tank!!" When was the last time that riot said "finally we made a male [anything]"? How weird would it sound?
Calling bottom lane "the kitchen" is not misogynistic because the characters with more passive abilities in the game are almost all women. That's why people call it such a passive lane. It is shitty that it fits so well but it's not our fault, it's riot's. i was so happy when graves got released! finally a male AD (corki doesn't count).
and graves only proves my point. they finally release a male ad carry but they deemphasize the primary characteristics of ad carry: delicate (in character design and stats), long range, low utility...
ezreal is the only other one and he's an androgynous anime boy.
edit: leona is who i'm talking about. they said over and over "look guys a female tank!! holy shit!!" in the champ spotlight and release notes
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Well, intuitive aesthetics is desirable in game design, and if you want to portray a character who looks like they can take a lot of physical punishment (generally required by tanks), then biologically speaking, you're better off with a male humanoid (you can also go with female arachnoid, easy out there Riot )
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On February 04 2012 20:04 wussleeQ wrote:Show nested quote +Also, if a woman wants to be a tank she has to be riding a giant pig, OR they have to make a big deal about it and say "hey look guys we made a female tank!!" When was the last time that riot said "finally we made a male [anything]"? How weird would it sound? in all fairness, leona comes to mind when talking about a female tank. she just ended up playing as a support because it was how she fit in Show nested quote +On February 04 2012 20:02 Roffles wrote:On February 04 2012 19:48 DoXa wrote:On February 04 2012 19:37 Attakijing wrote:
I always thought it was pretty insulting that riot made all supports and ranged AD women. the ranged ad thing is more subtle but its still someone who stays out of the fight, and although they can be powerful they are designed to look delicate. You can get away with having an elf girl archer and a magical moon princess support in the beginning of the game but when you are making characters like sona its just too much.
Also, if a woman wants to be a tank she has to be riding a giant pig, OR they have to make a big deal about it and say "hey look guys we made a female tank!!" When was the last time that riot said "finally we made a male [anything]"? How weird would it sound?
Calling bottom lane "the kitchen" is not misogynistic because the characters with more passive abilities in the game are almost all women. That's why people call it such a passive lane. It is shitty that it fits so well but it's not our fault, it's riot's. i was so happy when graves got released! finally a male AD (corki doesn't count). You definitely belong in a museum. \ some people think that ezreal doesn't count
In all fairness they could buff Leona too be useful in the jungle or top lane. Why they don't do this just adds further speculation.
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On February 04 2012 20:10 Flakes wrote:Well, intuitive aesthetics is desirable in game design, and if you want to portray a character who looks like they can take a lot of physical punishment (generally required by tanks), then biologically speaking, you're better off with a male humanoid (you can also go with female arachnoid, easy out there Riot ) Maybe we should make all fast characters black because africans can run so well. Note: this post is facetious.
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On February 04 2012 20:37 Attakijing wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2012 20:10 Flakes wrote:Well, intuitive aesthetics is desirable in game design, and if you want to portray a character who looks like they can take a lot of physical punishment (generally required by tanks), then biologically speaking, you're better off with a male humanoid (you can also go with female arachnoid, easy out there Riot ) Maybe we should make all fast characters black because africans can run so well. Note: this post is facetious.
There is a clear lack of black characters though, and this is not a facetious post.
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female tanks = nidalee / shyv
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Well a lot of people were asking for female tanks and armored bears for a long time (and surprise party Fiddle), so you can go ahead and blame capitalism instead of sexism.
Also, v8 TakashiX (one my my roommates) started streaming (with webcam) if anyone's interested in that sort of thing
http://solomid.net//livestream.php?s=483
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On February 04 2012 21:00 Flakes wrote:Well a lot of people were asking for female tanks and armored bears for a long time (and surprise party Fiddle), so you can go ahead and blame capitalism instead of sexism. Also, v8 TakashiX (one my my roommates) started streaming (with webcam) if anyone's interested in that sort of thing http://solomid.net//livestream.php?s=483
Tell him to get you on cam for more TL viewers.
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On February 04 2012 20:41 mr_tolkien wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2012 20:37 Attakijing wrote:On February 04 2012 20:10 Flakes wrote:Well, intuitive aesthetics is desirable in game design, and if you want to portray a character who looks like they can take a lot of physical punishment (generally required by tanks), then biologically speaking, you're better off with a male humanoid (you can also go with female arachnoid, easy out there Riot ) Maybe we should make all fast characters black because africans can run so well. Note: this post is facetious. There is a clear lack of black characters though, and this is not a facetious post.
Riot is clearly bias in their champion design. Yordles, extra-dimensional monstrosities and magical beings are far far far over-represented.
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Nasus is probably black, right? Ryze is purple, which is *close* to black...
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On February 04 2012 20:31 icemanzdoinwork wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2012 20:04 wussleeQ wrote:Also, if a woman wants to be a tank she has to be riding a giant pig, OR they have to make a big deal about it and say "hey look guys we made a female tank!!" When was the last time that riot said "finally we made a male [anything]"? How weird would it sound? in all fairness, leona comes to mind when talking about a female tank. she just ended up playing as a support because it was how she fit in On February 04 2012 20:02 Roffles wrote:On February 04 2012 19:48 DoXa wrote:On February 04 2012 19:37 Attakijing wrote:
I always thought it was pretty insulting that riot made all supports and ranged AD women. the ranged ad thing is more subtle but its still someone who stays out of the fight, and although they can be powerful they are designed to look delicate. You can get away with having an elf girl archer and a magical moon princess support in the beginning of the game but when you are making characters like sona its just too much.
Also, if a woman wants to be a tank she has to be riding a giant pig, OR they have to make a big deal about it and say "hey look guys we made a female tank!!" When was the last time that riot said "finally we made a male [anything]"? How weird would it sound?
Calling bottom lane "the kitchen" is not misogynistic because the characters with more passive abilities in the game are almost all women. That's why people call it such a passive lane. It is shitty that it fits so well but it's not our fault, it's riot's. i was so happy when graves got released! finally a male AD (corki doesn't count). You definitely belong in a museum. \ some people think that ezreal doesn't count In all fairness they could buff Leona too be useful in the jungle or top lane. Why they don't do this just adds further speculation.
Leona's so underrated. If you build her right shes a decent solo top offtank. Pretty good dmg, fairly tanky, and massive cc. Just watch Shurelya play: shes far from pro, and her opinion may be slightly wrong, but she still has a point that Leona is seriously underused.
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the problem with solo top leona, aside from any concerns about how to play her in a match up, is that she doesnt scale with farm. whats the point of giving her almost 1/3rd of your teams possibly gold if she comes away from it being the same usefulness as if she had been supporting with gp10
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On February 04 2012 21:09 deathray797 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2012 20:31 icemanzdoinwork wrote:On February 04 2012 20:04 wussleeQ wrote:Also, if a woman wants to be a tank she has to be riding a giant pig, OR they have to make a big deal about it and say "hey look guys we made a female tank!!" When was the last time that riot said "finally we made a male [anything]"? How weird would it sound? in all fairness, leona comes to mind when talking about a female tank. she just ended up playing as a support because it was how she fit in On February 04 2012 20:02 Roffles wrote:On February 04 2012 19:48 DoXa wrote:On February 04 2012 19:37 Attakijing wrote:
I always thought it was pretty insulting that riot made all supports and ranged AD women. the ranged ad thing is more subtle but its still someone who stays out of the fight, and although they can be powerful they are designed to look delicate. You can get away with having an elf girl archer and a magical moon princess support in the beginning of the game but when you are making characters like sona its just too much.
Also, if a woman wants to be a tank she has to be riding a giant pig, OR they have to make a big deal about it and say "hey look guys we made a female tank!!" When was the last time that riot said "finally we made a male [anything]"? How weird would it sound?
Calling bottom lane "the kitchen" is not misogynistic because the characters with more passive abilities in the game are almost all women. That's why people call it such a passive lane. It is shitty that it fits so well but it's not our fault, it's riot's. i was so happy when graves got released! finally a male AD (corki doesn't count). You definitely belong in a museum. \ some people think that ezreal doesn't count In all fairness they could buff Leona too be useful in the jungle or top lane. Why they don't do this just adds further speculation. Leona's so underrated. If you build her right shes a decent solo top offtank. Pretty good dmg, fairly tanky, and massive cc. Just watch Shurelya play: shes far from pro, and her opinion may be slightly wrong, but she still has a point that Leona is seriously underused.
There's basically no matchup that's favorable for her. GP, Panth, Trynd, Riven, Kennen, Ryze, Udyr, Yorick, Vlad, Rumble basically rape her six ways from Sunday, Nasus and WW should have an easy time farming to outscale her a LOT late game. There's no place for her top lane. And even if she had favorable matchups, I'd rather have every single of those champs I named get the farm she'd get top lane and put her bot as a support that basically does everything top lane Leona does minus a minor damage loss.
Also: Pantheon #1 black man. Dunking on people lies within his roots.
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On February 04 2012 21:09 Eiii wrote:
Nasus is probably black, right? Ryze is purple, which is *close* to black...
Yeah. Only animals are black in LoL ç_ç
Why can't they make an afro-american char ? There are more and more of them in heroic fantasy settings (Final Fantasy, Tales of, ...), but not in LoL. LoL characters are nearly all European-looking, if they're human.
A Voodoo priest would be so awesome :o
PS : http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Tabu_the_Voodoo_Shaman
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Karma is black, and there is this ryze skin...
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On February 04 2012 22:13 Dandel Ion wrote:
Karma is black, and there is this ryze skin...
I was not really intending to sparkle a debate on the existence of black characters, but since Karma's story is so linked to Buddhism, I don't really think she's even supposed to have African roots >.> Being tanned isn't being black (I think she's ethnically from the Philippines personally) :p
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o.o I thought it was apparent that she's Indian.
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On February 04 2012 20:06 Attakijing wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2012 19:48 DoXa wrote:On February 04 2012 19:37 Attakijing wrote:
I always thought it was pretty insulting that riot made all supports and ranged AD women. the ranged ad thing is more subtle but its still someone who stays out of the fight, and although they can be powerful they are designed to look delicate. You can get away with having an elf girl archer and a magical moon princess support in the beginning of the game but when you are making characters like sona its just too much.
Also, if a woman wants to be a tank she has to be riding a giant pig, OR they have to make a big deal about it and say "hey look guys we made a female tank!!" When was the last time that riot said "finally we made a male [anything]"? How weird would it sound?
Calling bottom lane "the kitchen" is not misogynistic because the characters with more passive abilities in the game are almost all women. That's why people call it such a passive lane. It is shitty that it fits so well but it's not our fault, it's riot's. i was so happy when graves got released! finally a male AD (corki doesn't count). and graves only proves my point. they finally release a male ad carry but they deemphasize the primary characteristics of ad carry: delicate (in character design and stats), long range, low utility... ezreal is the only other one and he's an androgynous anime boy. edit: leona is who i'm talking about. they said over and over "look guys a female tank!! holy shit!!" in the champ spotlight and release notes
LoL, so no matter what happen, you will never be happy. When a male range AD is released, then they "deemphasize the primary characteristics of ad carry" and when they release an ad carry with the same characteristic as other ad carry then it's a "androgynous anime boy", and corki just never existed in your heart anyway because what ? He is not a male nor female, he is a midget ?
This discussion feel kinda ridiculous.
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On February 04 2012 22:35 WhiteDog wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2012 20:06 Attakijing wrote:On February 04 2012 19:48 DoXa wrote:On February 04 2012 19:37 Attakijing wrote:
I always thought it was pretty insulting that riot made all supports and ranged AD women. the ranged ad thing is more subtle but its still someone who stays out of the fight, and although they can be powerful they are designed to look delicate. You can get away with having an elf girl archer and a magical moon princess support in the beginning of the game but when you are making characters like sona its just too much.
Also, if a woman wants to be a tank she has to be riding a giant pig, OR they have to make a big deal about it and say "hey look guys we made a female tank!!" When was the last time that riot said "finally we made a male [anything]"? How weird would it sound?
Calling bottom lane "the kitchen" is not misogynistic because the characters with more passive abilities in the game are almost all women. That's why people call it such a passive lane. It is shitty that it fits so well but it's not our fault, it's riot's. i was so happy when graves got released! finally a male AD (corki doesn't count). and graves only proves my point. they finally release a male ad carry but they deemphasize the primary characteristics of ad carry: delicate (in character design and stats), long range, low utility... ezreal is the only other one and he's an androgynous anime boy. edit: leona is who i'm talking about. they said over and over "look guys a female tank!! holy shit!!" in the champ spotlight and release notes LoL, so no matter what happen, you will never be happy. When a male range AD is released, then they "deemphasize the primary characteristics of ad carry" and when they release an ad carry with the same characteristic as other ad carry then it's a "androgynous anime boy", and corki just never existed in your heart anyway because what ? He is not a male nor female, he is a midget ? This discussion feel kinda ridiculous.
He is a plane, so your argument is invalid.
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