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Consider this fair notice to all users. Warning will be dished out this patch.

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Neo, 31.01.12
Hidden_MotiveS
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada2562 Posts
February 04 2012 05:38 GMT
#1041
I once saw a volibear taric lane. Volibear is hard to stay away from, and the stun just makes it hard to escape.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
February 04 2012 05:39 GMT
#1042
Volibears problem imo is that he doesn't have CC and doesn't have a proper blink, his Q also has a gigantic cd, as does W. His ulti is okay but he again needs to be melee with no real way to stick to the opponent - after using Q the cooldown lasts forever and E is very meh in my opinion.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
gaizka
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States991 Posts
February 04 2012 05:46 GMT
#1043
Just a question, are the 'lunar revel' skins for limited time only? or are they just like normal skins?
Hidden_MotiveS
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada2562 Posts
February 04 2012 05:46 GMT
#1044
On February 04 2012 14:39 Shikyo wrote:
Volibears problem imo is that he doesn't have CC and doesn't have a proper blink, his Q also has a gigantic cd, as does W. His ulti is okay but he again needs to be melee with no real way to stick to the opponent - after using Q the cooldown lasts forever and E is very meh in my opinion.

His roar is a slow. What do you mean he doesn't have cc?

I'm not saying he's the best ganker. Just don't want any fallacies to be going around
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
February 04 2012 05:46 GMT
#1045
On February 04 2012 14:46 gaizka wrote:
Just a question, are the 'lunar revel' skins for limited time only? or are they just like normal skins?

Normal skins.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
Xevious
Profile Joined February 2011
United States2086 Posts
February 04 2012 06:10 GMT
#1046
On February 02 2012 12:19 red_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2012 12:05 seRapH wrote:
Guinsoo's twitter says karma's KIT is going to be changed? Apparantly riot wants her to duo lane -_-

They keep forcing these changes zz


She's support bro, gotta go with the AD.

Think of the bottom lane as a kitchen, and supports as women(ok so Alistar and Nunu aren't female, but close enough)... women can't be allowed out of the kitchen until they are done cooking except for some exceptions, like getting you a beer or snack while you wait for dinner(warding).

There's a few champs that break this analogy, but it ALMOST fits. Conspiracy theory: Riot far more misogynist than ever thought before!

can we put this in the quote thread
GranDim
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
Canada1214 Posts
February 04 2012 06:15 GMT
#1047
On February 04 2012 15:10 Xevious wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2012 12:19 red_ wrote:
On February 02 2012 12:05 seRapH wrote:
Guinsoo's twitter says karma's KIT is going to be changed? Apparantly riot wants her to duo lane -_-

They keep forcing these changes zz


She's support bro, gotta go with the AD.

Think of the bottom lane as a kitchen, and supports as women(ok so Alistar and Nunu aren't female, but close enough)... women can't be allowed out of the kitchen until they are done cooking except for some exceptions, like getting you a beer or snack while you wait for dinner(warding).

There's a few champs that break this analogy, but it ALMOST fits. Conspiracy theory: Riot far more misogynist than ever thought before!

can we put this in the quote thread


Except most ranged AD are female too
DURRHURRDERP
Profile Joined May 2006
Canada929 Posts
February 04 2012 06:20 GMT
#1048
bottom lane = kitchen
"I am an iconic role model for everyone aspiring to be better at League of Legends." - Roffles
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
February 04 2012 06:28 GMT
#1049
So most bot lanes being bad in solo q is some type of lesbian orgy gone wrong in your kitchen?

Solo q doesn't sound so bad anymore!
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
February 04 2012 06:30 GMT
#1050
Stop with the misogynistic comments. Thanks.
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BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
February 04 2012 06:53 GMT
#1051
Sorry neo :<

I really don't think you can say who has the "best" gank. :s
Obviously some champs gank better but when you're getting into who is the BEST it's really hard to judge something like that. It's so situational. Most champs who are on the top of the list have a lot of built in cc and a mechanic to get them to the enemy. And everything in that is situational (will noc get his fear off, will you be able to catch them to fling them as voli or singed, will you land your q as lee sin, can your teammate burst them enough as ali, rammus, or mao, etc)
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
valheru
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia966 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-04 07:13:25
February 04 2012 07:11 GMT
#1052
On February 04 2012 15:15 GranDim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2012 15:10 Xevious wrote:
On February 02 2012 12:19 red_ wrote:
On February 02 2012 12:05 seRapH wrote:
Guinsoo's twitter says karma's KIT is going to be changed? Apparantly riot wants her to duo lane -_-

They keep forcing these changes zz


She's support bro, gotta go with the AD.

Think of the bottom lane as a kitchen, and supports as women(ok so Alistar and Nunu aren't female, but close enough)... women can't be allowed out of the kitchen until they are done cooking except for some exceptions, like getting you a beer or snack while you wait for dinner(warding).

There's a few champs that break this analogy, but it ALMOST fits. Conspiracy theory: Riot far more misogynist than ever thought before!

can we put this in the quote thread


Except most ranged AD are female too

you have no idea how tempting it is to say something about + Show Spoiler +
snacks and dragons
and + Show Spoiler +
dinner and a farmed ad carry
right now.


On February 04 2012 14:46 Hidden_MotiveS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2012 14:39 Shikyo wrote:
Volibears problem imo is that he doesn't have CC and doesn't have a proper blink, his Q also has a gigantic cd, as does W. His ulti is okay but he again needs to be melee with no real way to stick to the opponent - after using Q the cooldown lasts forever and E is very meh in my opinion.

His roar is a slow. What do you mean he doesn't have cc?

I'm not saying he's the best ganker. Just don't want any fallacies to be going around

Also voli has the fling like singed does that count as CC?
I reject your reality and substitute my own
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
February 04 2012 07:17 GMT
#1053
hmm.

Random thought I had just now. What if there was a way to designate minions? Like as they came down the lane, the support could select a minion, which would then get an indicator, and let the ad carry know that they want that minion last hit to boost their gold income a bit. Or an ad carry could drop an indicator on a minion they werent gonna be able to get to so that the support could grab it and the farm doesnt go to waste.

Could potentially be a decent workaround to duo laning and splitting farm a bit so that teammates arent fighting each other to cs.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17250 Posts
February 04 2012 07:35 GMT
#1054
Because you could a.) say let me have a cs or b.) just kill the cs: if you have the time to be indicating it, you have the time to be last hitting it

It's a convoluted system for something with almost no meaningful gain and would probably require a lot of dev hours
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sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
February 04 2012 07:36 GMT
#1055
On February 04 2012 16:17 Two_DoWn wrote:
hmm.

Random thought I had just now. What if there was a way to designate minions? Like as they came down the lane, the support could select a minion, which would then get an indicator, and let the ad carry know that they want that minion last hit to boost their gold income a bit. Or an ad carry could drop an indicator on a minion they werent gonna be able to get to so that the support could grab it and the farm doesnt go to waste.

Could potentially be a decent workaround to duo laning and splitting farm a bit so that teammates arent fighting each other to cs.


I think if you are that worried about splitting farm accurately you can just get a headset and tell your AD you want one.

Or just take one with Infuse/SonaQ etc
In Hungry Hungry Hippos there are no such constraints—one can constantly attempt to collect marbles with one’s hippo, limited only by one’s hippo-levering capabilities.
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
February 04 2012 09:12 GMT
#1056
On February 04 2012 16:17 Two_DoWn wrote:
hmm.

Random thought I had just now. What if there was a way to designate minions? Like as they came down the lane, the support could select a minion, which would then get an indicator, and let the ad carry know that they want that minion last hit to boost their gold income a bit. Or an ad carry could drop an indicator on a minion they werent gonna be able to get to so that the support could grab it and the farm doesnt go to waste.

Could potentially be a decent workaround to duo laning and splitting farm a bit so that teammates arent fighting each other to cs.

that sounds ridiculously complex and I doubt anyone would ever use it in solo q. in arranged you could just say something via vent or w/e.
infinitestory
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4053 Posts
February 04 2012 09:21 GMT
#1057
A small part of the support's laning job is to recognize and get the CS that the AD can't get to, IMO.
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Attakijing
Profile Joined June 2011
United States693 Posts
February 04 2012 10:37 GMT
#1058
I always thought it was pretty insulting that riot made all supports and ranged AD women. the ranged ad thing is more subtle but its still someone who stays out of the fight, and although they can be powerful they are designed to look delicate. You can get away with having an elf girl archer and a magical moon princess support in the beginning of the game but when you are making characters like sona its just too much.

Also, if a woman wants to be a tank she has to be riding a giant pig, OR they have to make a big deal about it and say "hey look guys we made a female tank!!" When was the last time that riot said "finally we made a male [anything]"? How weird would it sound?

Calling bottom lane "the kitchen" is not misogynistic because the characters with more passive abilities in the game are almost all women. That's why people call it such a passive lane. It is shitty that it fits so well but it's not our fault, it's riot's.
DoXa
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Switzerland1448 Posts
February 04 2012 10:48 GMT
#1059
On February 04 2012 19:37 Attakijing wrote:
I always thought it was pretty insulting that riot made all supports and ranged AD women. the ranged ad thing is more subtle but its still someone who stays out of the fight, and although they can be powerful they are designed to look delicate. You can get away with having an elf girl archer and a magical moon princess support in the beginning of the game but when you are making characters like sona its just too much.

Also, if a woman wants to be a tank she has to be riding a giant pig, OR they have to make a big deal about it and say "hey look guys we made a female tank!!" When was the last time that riot said "finally we made a male [anything]"? How weird would it sound?

Calling bottom lane "the kitchen" is not misogynistic because the characters with more passive abilities in the game are almost all women. That's why people call it such a passive lane. It is shitty that it fits so well but it's not our fault, it's riot's.


i was so happy when graves got released! finally a male AD (corki doesn't count).
Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
February 04 2012 11:02 GMT
#1060
On February 04 2012 19:48 DoXa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2012 19:37 Attakijing wrote:
I always thought it was pretty insulting that riot made all supports and ranged AD women. the ranged ad thing is more subtle but its still someone who stays out of the fight, and although they can be powerful they are designed to look delicate. You can get away with having an elf girl archer and a magical moon princess support in the beginning of the game but when you are making characters like sona its just too much.

Also, if a woman wants to be a tank she has to be riding a giant pig, OR they have to make a big deal about it and say "hey look guys we made a female tank!!" When was the last time that riot said "finally we made a male [anything]"? How weird would it sound?

Calling bottom lane "the kitchen" is not misogynistic because the characters with more passive abilities in the game are almost all women. That's why people call it such a passive lane. It is shitty that it fits so well but it's not our fault, it's riot's.


i was so happy when graves got released! finally a male AD (corki doesn't count).

You definitely belong in a museum.
God Bless
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