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Heed these two simple warnings. It will help make our GD a better place.

Consider this fair notice to all users. Warning will be dished out this patch.

Thanks.
Neo, 31.01.12
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-12 23:56:00
February 12 2012 23:54 GMT
#3201
On February 13 2012 06:40 Two_DoWn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2012 05:34 warscythes wrote:
There are a few things the forum is good for though other than using the redtracker to read the red posts.

1. If a champion is just released and everybody is posting on the forum on how op it is, chances are it is op. You don't even have to read on the champion's kit or numbers.
2. Renekton bot
3. You occasionally get threads that makes everything else worth it, although those threads get linked to reddit anyway.
4. Reading the reaction when people make plays on tournament matches/streamers doing stupid stuff like Hotshot building a couch.

the first is never true. bads just dont know how to adapt so you get "OMG OP QQQQQQ" threads all the time. Volibear, Fizz, ect.

In fact, the forum crying something is UP is generally a better indicator of something being op- irelia, yorick, lee sin, shyvana, ryze, ect.


to be fair lee sin did suck pretty bad when he was released, and I don't agree at all with the assertion I've seen you make that release yorick was good. Look at these buffs in the next patch, holy shit:

+ Show Spoiler +
Omen of Pestilence
Increased the cast range by 50

Improved the consistency of the AoE slow by increasing the radius and rate of application.
Mana cost reduced to 40/45/50/55//60 from 50/55/60/65/70

Omen of Famine
Mana cost reduced to 55/60/65/70/75 from 60/65/70/75/80

Removed the health decay on the Revenant and Reanimated pets

Unholy Symbiosis
Yorick now takes 5% reduced damage for each summon that is active.
Increased the Attack Damage and Health of ghouls to 35% from 30% of Yorick's Attack Damage and Health

Ghouls
Ghouls are now immune to slows.
Ghouls take 50% reduced damage from AoE abilities

General
Mana per level increased to 35 from 30
Health per level increased to 85 from 80
Armor per level increased to 3.6 from 3
Base Movement speed increased to 320 from 315
Slightly increased his base Attack Speed


They like tripled his power in that patch. Seriously these changes are just ridiculous. Before he'd go oom all the time and he was kinda squishy and he couldn't really chase anyone.
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
Niton
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2395 Posts
February 13 2012 00:00 GMT
#3202
On February 12 2012 21:49 spinesheath wrote:
So I just browsed through this thread about the shortcomings of the SC2 client UI / bnet 0.2.

In there was a link to this:
Show nested quote +
On February 03 2012 11:43 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
Blizzard should take one look at the LoL client and then they should copy every single part of it.

Shortly followed by:
Show nested quote +
On February 03 2012 12:29 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
The LoL UI would be a million times better as a base UI than the SC2 UI.


So, I knew the SC2 UI was bad, but it seems like I was lucky enough to get pulled off by LoL before I could really grasp how horrible it actually is.

Edit: There, happy?


This is old, but I have to say that the actual Layout of the client's UI is fantastic, because you can get to (and see everything) really easily, with the new champion pages being particularly good. I never realized how good the UI is, but it's so flexible that it really winds up looking great.
tree.hugger: Coming off of [(T)fantasy v. (T)Really] into [(T)Barracks v. (T)MVP] is like coming out of Manhattan into New Jersey. You just have to speed up and ignore it.
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-13 00:27:10
February 13 2012 00:27 GMT
#3203
I see room for improvement in the layout (for example the fact the game has three different settings menus none of which are accessible at the same time, it's not sufficiently obvious you can rename pages, etc), but it is organizing a LOT of information in an effective way.

What really blew my mind is the dota 2 ui though, I've never, ever played a game with such a good client. Once you get in game you kind of bump up against wc3 but the client is... perfect.
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
pschiu
Profile Joined April 2010
Singapore410 Posts
February 13 2012 00:46 GMT
#3204
On February 13 2012 07:13 seppolevne wrote:
My gf: "So what if you had LoL, but instead of champions they were pokemon?"


Ever notice how these champions are supposed to be awesome fighters but yet only have four abilities for use?

The only change would be that you'd be giving up half-dressed girls for furry creatures.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
February 13 2012 00:52 GMT
#3205
On February 13 2012 09:46 pschiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2012 07:13 seppolevne wrote:
My gf: "So what if you had LoL, but instead of champions they were pokemon?"


Ever notice how these champions are supposed to be awesome fighters but yet only have four abilities for use?

The only change would be that you'd be giving up half-dressed girls for furry creatures.

That would actually probably be really cool and it could be popular as well. However there's some problems like balance(if they try to follow lore) and repeated skills and so on.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
WhiteDog
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France8650 Posts
February 13 2012 00:58 GMT
#3206
After going down from 1500 to 1150, I finally got back up to 1500. I will never play nocturne again, either he is bad, or I just can't play him.
"every time WhiteDog overuses the word "seriously" in a comment I can make an observation on his fragile emotional state." MoltkeWarding
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17303 Posts
February 13 2012 01:02 GMT
#3207
He's okay, but I wouldn't pick him blindly. He's generally better off going in after a tank can initiate and needs something soft he can jump on.
twitch.tv/cratonz
Hidden_MotiveS
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada2562 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-13 01:05:00
February 13 2012 01:03 GMT
#3208
On February 13 2012 07:13 seppolevne wrote:
My gf: "So what if you had LoL, but instead of champions they were pokemon?"

One time I got into a small argument with a kennen over something. I jokingly said to shut up or I would smite him. He replied his reasoning again and said to go ahead and smite him. I replied, I couldn't because it said that smite didn't work on pokemon. He said something else and I replied that all I heard was "kenkennenken kennen." XD

I think I was trying to argue that kennen didn't need blue.
pschiu
Profile Joined April 2010
Singapore410 Posts
February 13 2012 01:04 GMT
#3209
On February 13 2012 09:52 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2012 09:46 pschiu wrote:
On February 13 2012 07:13 seppolevne wrote:
My gf: "So what if you had LoL, but instead of champions they were pokemon?"


Ever notice how these champions are supposed to be awesome fighters but yet only have four abilities for use?

The only change would be that you'd be giving up half-dressed girls for furry creatures.

That would actually probably be really cool and it could be popular as well. However there's some problems like balance(if they try to follow lore) and repeated skills and so on.

Some people here think these problems already exist in LoL you know...
Terranasaur
Profile Joined May 2011
United States2085 Posts
February 13 2012 01:14 GMT
#3210
I think the evolution thing could be awesome in a game like league. Pick Magicarp and be completely useless in lane, hit level 11, evolve into Gyrados and just rip shit apart.
Decisions Determine Destiny - Terranasaur#1719 D3 #557 SC2 3DS FC: 2423-3623-8068
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
February 13 2012 01:16 GMT
#3211
Really? Is this conversation really happening?

Maybe I feel disjointed from all the Pokemon references everywhere 'cause I'm so damn old and the only one I played was Blue/Red.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Terranasaur
Profile Joined May 2011
United States2085 Posts
February 13 2012 01:18 GMT
#3212
On February 13 2012 10:16 WaveofShadow wrote:
Really? Is this conversation really happening?

Maybe I feel disjointed from all the Pokemon references everywhere 'cause I'm so damn old and the only one I played was Blue/Red.


Pokemon is awesome. You really missed out.
Decisions Determine Destiny - Terranasaur#1719 D3 #557 SC2 3DS FC: 2423-3623-8068
Shiv.
Profile Joined January 2011
3534 Posts
February 13 2012 01:21 GMT
#3213
On February 13 2012 10:16 WaveofShadow wrote:
Really? Is this conversation really happening?

Maybe I feel disjointed from all the Pokemon references everywhere 'cause I'm so damn old and the only one I played was Blue/Red.

Which were the best ones anyway. I'm in my early 20s and played those, don't pretend to be older than you are! You just dislike Pokémon. Sick bastard.
currently rooting for myself.
ManyCookies
Profile Joined December 2010
1164 Posts
February 13 2012 01:22 GMT
#3214
On February 13 2012 10:14 Terranasaur wrote:
I think the evolution thing could be awesome in a game like league. Pick Magicarp and be completely useless in lane, hit level 11, evolve into Gyrados and just rip shit apart.


I believe he's called Nasus.
Dgiese
Profile Joined July 2010
United States2687 Posts
February 13 2012 01:32 GMT
#3215
Has anyone else noticed that the player skill level drops on weekends? Like... elo is the same, but player skill seems to drop, like 1400 games feel like 1100 games. It's like there's a separate player base that only plays on weekends. Really weird.
pschiu
Profile Joined April 2010
Singapore410 Posts
February 13 2012 01:46 GMT
#3216
On February 13 2012 10:32 Dgiese wrote:
Has anyone else noticed that the player skill level drops on weekends? Like... elo is the same, but player skill seems to drop, like 1400 games feel like 1100 games. It's like there's a separate player base that only plays on weekends. Really weird.

Yup, it's like most people have some sort of "school" or "work" commitments on weekdays. One can only wonder what those weird things are.
TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
February 13 2012 01:52 GMT
#3217
I just lost 120 elo this weekend so there might be something to it.......
Cackle™
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
February 13 2012 01:57 GMT
#3218
On February 13 2012 10:52 TheKefka wrote:
I just lost 120 elo this weekend so there might be something to it.......

You loosing 120 elo would be an indication that players on weekends are better not worse.

Although thats nonsense anyway. Guess people will never understand how elo works.
Off-season = best season
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
February 13 2012 02:04 GMT
#3219
On February 13 2012 10:57 Redox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2012 10:52 TheKefka wrote:
I just lost 120 elo this weekend so there might be something to it.......

You loosing 120 elo would be an indication that players on weekends are better not worse.

Although thats nonsense anyway. Guess people will never understand how elo works.

Well, 1700 during the day and 1700 at peak korean time mean 2 VERY different things...
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
WhiteDog
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France8650 Posts
February 13 2012 02:07 GMT
#3220
I havé my own theory on losing and winning elo : either you carry or it's just random.
I see no real difference between 1000 elo and 1500 elo. Okay, most of the 1500 elo can cs better, but, just like 1000 elo players, they just don't know how and when to engage. People are still engaging fights left and right for no reason even if they must go in the opponent team's jungle to do so, and even if they have no vision of the ennemy team.
"every time WhiteDog overuses the word "seriously" in a comment I can make an observation on his fragile emotional state." MoltkeWarding
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