EPT[Patch 1.0.0.133: Ziggs] General Discussion - Page 103
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starfries
Canada3508 Posts
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little fancy
Germany2504 Posts
There was a time 4-5 months ago where everybody build Wriggle's even though the lane wasn't that hard. Then people stopped that and went for a more team fight oriented build with only 1-2 DBlade and an early BF item rush. And now we seem to be back to stack 2, mostly 3 DBlade + Wriggle's which I don't really get since it delays your main build a lot, especially when you are not far ahead. | ||
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NotSorry
United States6722 Posts
On February 08 2012 05:20 Two_DoWn wrote: IKR. I mean, I most CERTAINLY did NOT spend an entire night arguing volibear was a very good pick much to the laughter of everyone in the forum. I mean geeeeez. Seriously, anything nerfed must be total and complete shit obviously | ||
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NotSorry
United States6722 Posts
On February 08 2012 05:43 little fancy wrote: Did I miss something in the Ziggs patch notes that makes all the AD players go for 3x DBlade + Wriggle's Lantern these days? There was a time 4-5 months ago where everybody build Wriggle's even though the lane wasn't that hard. Then people stopped that and went for a more team fight oriented build with only 1-2 DBlade and an early BF item rush. And now we seem to be back to stack 2, mostly 3 DBlade + Wriggle's which I don't really get since it delays your main build a lot, especially when you are not far ahead. It was a EU trend that crossed over, it's about focusing on being very strong early and mid game rather than maxing out in the late game, ideally you use the early advantages to get ahead to a point where you either end the game or can transition out of it IE: My 3 dorans will beat your BF sword | ||
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Keniji
Netherlands2569 Posts
On February 08 2012 05:45 NotSorry wrote: It was a EU trend that crossed over, it's about focusing on being very strong early and mid game rather than maxing out in the late game, ideally you use the early advantages to get ahead to a point where you either end the game or can transition out of it Yep. Genja played it with success in Kiev. Chaox picked it up. It pretty much snowballed from there. | ||
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seRapH
United States9756 Posts
On February 08 2012 05:44 NotSorry wrote: Seriously, anything nerfed must be total and complete shit obviously Then people should stop playing lee sin his damage is trash now. | ||
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Two_DoWn
United States13684 Posts
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starfries
Canada3508 Posts
On February 08 2012 05:44 NotSorry wrote: Seriously, anything nerfed must be total and complete shit obviously Did he even get nerfed? I feel like his changes were a combination of nerfs and buffs that made him more rounded. | ||
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Shiv.
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On February 08 2012 05:55 starfries wrote: Did he even get nerfed? I feel like his changes were a combination of nerfs and buffs that made him more rounded. Rounded as in weaker? I mean, last 2-3 changes were all clear nerfs. | ||
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NotSorry
United States6722 Posts
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starfries
Canada3508 Posts
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Terranasaur
United States2085 Posts
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Hidden_MotiveS
Canada2562 Posts
On February 08 2012 06:23 starfries wrote: Being able to use Q to run away is a nerf? Explain!? | ||
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phyvo
United States5635 Posts
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Gorsameth
Netherlands21584 Posts
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mordek
United States12704 Posts
And he's in full form right now. Uses pot to "stay healfy" and decides they should rename pots milk. Everyone in the house screaming as he duels in river and barely survives. | ||
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Two_DoWn
United States13684 Posts
On February 08 2012 06:53 phyvo wrote: Volibear's buffs were pretty meh. Q got a tiny damage buff but no one cares and it doesn't scale. E got a substantial damage buff but no one cares because you level it last and 40 more damage at level 18 is meaningless. By contrast he lost 25% of his scaling on his nuke and about as much base damage on it as he gained elsewhere, so the net effect is simply nerfed scaling and nerfed base damage early game (because you can only level 1 ability at a time). The Q thing gives him better ability to escape a soft gank but IMO it's really not as great as simply killing crap. Your doing it wrong. Jungle voli, according to T_D (ripped shamelessly from SV): 9-21-0, runes optional, either run your WW runes or Udyr runes. Boots+3, open with q for invade, e for faster jungling. Open red for a fast gank, blue for faster farm. e-q-w-e E>W>Q. Ganking (his strong point) press q, then flip them over, press e, kill them. If you arent gonna reach with q, press e in range to slow before the flip, catch them, then kill them. Build: Wriggles, Wits, tanky. Your welcome. | ||
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arnath
United States1317 Posts
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Hidden_MotiveS
Canada2562 Posts
On February 08 2012 07:00 mordek wrote: Someone dies to minion on TOO's stream. No champion/turret/assist nothing. Minion kill. And he's in full form right now. Uses pot to "stay healfy" and decides they should rename pots milk. Everyone in the house screaming as he duels in river and barely survives. Announcer Lady:"Humiliation" | ||
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starfries
Canada3508 Posts
On February 08 2012 06:44 Hidden_MotiveS wrote: You should get ionic spark on voli so people will be confused as to whether you're using your ult :p Explain!? that was a sarcastic response to the people who think Volibear's changes were straight up nerfs just because you can't auto win the lane with W spam On an unrelated note, are there any champions for which boots of swiftness are a viable choice? | ||
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