• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 03:16
CEST 09:16
KST 16:16
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Serral wins HomeStory Cup 2914Serral wins Maestros of the Game 243ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play3Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview12
Community News
Balance hotfix patch 5.0.16b (July 16)43Reynor: GSL Loss Wasn't About Preparation Format16[IPSL] Spring 2026 Grand Finals - This Weekend!5Weekly Cups (July 6 - 12): Protoss strike back12BSL Season 22 Full Overview & Conclusion8
StarCraft 2
General
Balance hotfix patch 5.0.16b (July 16) [D] Wireframe Casting Removed Clem: "I don't have that much hope in Blizzard" Reynor: GSL Loss Wasn't About Preparation Format Is the larve respawn broken?
Tourneys
Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2) WardiTV Summer Cup 2026 GSL CK #5 Race War RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event HomeStory Cup 29
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
New Map Maker - Looking for Advice - Love or Hate Work In Progress Melee Maps [D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 534 Burning Evacuation Mutation # 533 Die Together Mutation # 532 Nuclear Family
Brood War
General
BW General Discussion Pros Debate: Zerg Unfairly Nerfed? (ASL S22 map) Etiquete rules in Asl? Recent recommended BW games Recommended FPV games (post-KeSPA)
Tourneys
Escore Tournament - Season 3 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues Small VOD Thread 2.0 [IPSL] Spring 2026 Grand Finals - This Weekend!
Strategy
Fighting Spirit mining rates Simple Questions, Simple Answers Creating a full chart of Zerg builds Relatively freeroll strategies
Other Games
General Games
General RTS Discussion Thread Path of Exile Nintendo Switch Thread Beyond All Reason Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread
Dota 2
Looking for a Dota Mentor Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Power Rank NeO.D_StephenKing vs This Guy From 1 Million Dance TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread The Games Industry And ATVI Russo-Ukrainian War Thread UK Politics Mega-thread YouTube Thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club The HerO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books Series you have seen recently...
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread MLB/Baseball 2023 McBoner: A hockey love story Tennis[sport] Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Simple Questions Simple Answers FPS when play League Of Legend on laptop How to clean a TTe Thermaltake keyboard?
TL Community
Northern Ireland Global Starcraft The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Poker (part 2)
Nebuchad
The Experiences We Want and …
TrAiDoS
An Exploration of th…
waywardstrategy
ramps on octagon
StaticNine
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Evil Gacha Games and the…
ffswowsucks
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 5659 users

[Patch 1.0.0.133: Ziggs] General Discussion - Page 104

Forum Index > LoL General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 102 103 104 105 106 176 Next
Heed these two simple warnings. It will help make our GD a better place.

Consider this fair notice to all users. Warning will be dished out this patch.

Thanks.
Neo, 31.01.12
BlackMagister
Profile Joined October 2008
United States5834 Posts
February 07 2012 22:58 GMT
#2061
Garen is about the only champ that I can think of that gets boots of swiftness.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
February 07 2012 23:00 GMT
#2062
This has nothing to do with LoL or anything that we're talking about, but what the fuck, is that Felicia Day on Day[9]'s stream?
It's your boy Guzma!
LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
February 07 2012 23:00 GMT
#2063
On February 08 2012 08:00 Requizen wrote:
This has nothing to do with LoL or anything that we're talking about, but what the fuck, is that Felicia Day on Day[9]'s stream?

yes
eagle
Profile Joined April 2009
United States693 Posts
February 07 2012 23:01 GMT
#2064
there ok on ashe but serkers are better for less moneys
seRapH
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9808 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-07 23:07:26
February 07 2012 23:04 GMT
#2065
Sometimes I take swiftness on janna along with double ms masteries and ms quints. It's the funnest thing ever, even if my AD doesn't want to play sivir.

+ Show Spoiler +
janna's told me multiple times to build it, i have to oblige her
boomer hands
Navi
Profile Joined November 2009
5286 Posts
February 07 2012 23:04 GMT
#2066
Anivia
Hey! Listen!
Treadmill
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada2833 Posts
February 07 2012 23:13 GMT
#2067
On February 08 2012 08:04 seRapH wrote:
Sometimes I take swiftness on janna along with double ms masteries and ms quints. It's the funnest thing ever, even if my AD doesn't want to play sivir.

+ Show Spoiler +
janna's told me multiple times to build it, i have to oblige her

But why would you go for swifties when you could go boots of mobility?
seRapH
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9808 Posts
February 07 2012 23:16 GMT
#2068
On February 08 2012 08:13 Treadmill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2012 08:04 seRapH wrote:
Sometimes I take swiftness on janna along with double ms masteries and ms quints. It's the funnest thing ever, even if my AD doesn't want to play sivir.

+ Show Spoiler +
janna's told me multiple times to build it, i have to oblige her

But why would you go for swifties when you could go boots of mobility?

1) Janna says to
2) Because I like to zoom around in the middle of a fight
boomer hands
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-07 23:33:02
February 07 2012 23:32 GMT
#2069
Anyone actually know how you are supposed to jungle mundo? Im kind of guessing at this point and I dun like it.

The guessing i mean.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
mr_tolkien
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France8631 Posts
February 07 2012 23:34 GMT
#2070
On February 08 2012 08:32 Two_DoWn wrote:
Anyone actually know how you are supposed to jungle mundo? Im kind of guessing at this point and I dun like it.

The guessing i mean.

Vampirical + spellvamp quints.
The legend of Darien lives on
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
February 07 2012 23:41 GMT
#2071
i hear spellvamp quints OP on mundo, pretty lolsy.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
Alzadar
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada5009 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-07 23:43:40
February 07 2012 23:42 GMT
#2072
Yeah, definitely Vamp Scepter. EQEW into R -> E -> Q -> W

I find you don't need to build the Vamp Scepter into anything, the 12% lifesteal + your passive + your ultimate after 6 is all the sustain you need for the jungle.

I don't like going too heavy into lifesteal on Mundo because you are already so reliant on self-healing and healing reductions are already so powerful against you that it seems like a terrible idea to further your reliance on self-healing.
I am the Town Medic.
mr_tolkien
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France8631 Posts
February 07 2012 23:44 GMT
#2073
On February 08 2012 08:42 Alzadar wrote:
Yeah, definitely Vamp Scepter. EQEW into R -> E -> Q -> W

I find you don't need to build the Vamp Scepter into anything, the 12% lifesteal + your passive + your ultimate after 6 is all the sustain you need for the jungle.

I don't like going too heavy into lifesteal on Mundo because you are already so reliant on self-healing and healing reductions are already so powerful against you that it seems like a terrible idea to further your reliance on self-healing.

More like WEWQ if you have spellvamp quints. AoE da shit out of the small camps.
The legend of Darien lives on
seRapH
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9808 Posts
February 07 2012 23:46 GMT
#2074
You get 2 levels in W? I've been putting all my points into E. But I don't have spellvamp quints and run boots so idk might be different.
boomer hands
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-07 23:55:34
February 07 2012 23:54 GMT
#2075
On February 08 2012 08:42 Alzadar wrote:
Yeah, definitely Vamp Scepter. EQEW into R -> E -> Q -> W

I find you don't need to build the Vamp Scepter into anything, the 12% lifesteal + your passive + your ultimate after 6 is all the sustain you need for the jungle.

I don't like going too heavy into lifesteal on Mundo because you are already so reliant on self-healing and healing reductions are already so powerful against you that it seems like a terrible idea to further your reliance on self-healing.

W at level 1 for sure. The damage is a whole rank ahead of Shyvana's W at all levels.

I don't think you can really fully map out jungle Mundo's skill order. It's like with jungle Cho'gath: Cho'gath's E is definitely the best skill for jungling, but you really just want to get as much of it as you need to feel comfortable with your speed, and after that skill Q and W for actual ganking/teamfighting.

The same thing applies with Mundo. After you get W and E at level 1 and 2, you get as much W as you need to feel comfortable with your farming speed (usually 2-3 ranks), and then max Q for ganks/teamfights. Mid-lategame skill priority is R>Q>E>W, just as you would do in lane.
Moderator
Eishi_Ki
Profile Joined April 2009
Korea (South)1667 Posts
February 07 2012 23:58 GMT
#2076
On February 08 2012 07:58 BlackMagister wrote:
Garen is about the only champ that I can think of that gets boots of swiftness.


Anivia as well
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
February 08 2012 00:03 GMT
#2077
I'm not sure +20 movespeed is worth losing a 5-17% damage increase, even on Anivia.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
Navi
Profile Joined November 2009
5286 Posts
February 08 2012 00:16 GMT
#2078
Anivia is one of the slowest champions in the game
She is also perhaps the champion that gains the most from being able to reposition herself correctly, as her slows and wall synergize immensely with additional movespeed
But nowadays everyone and their brother has a repositioning of some sort so theyre not as instabuy as they used to be
Hey! Listen!
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-08 01:10:08
February 08 2012 01:09 GMT
#2079
On February 08 2012 08:54 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2012 08:42 Alzadar wrote:
Yeah, definitely Vamp Scepter. EQEW into R -> E -> Q -> W

I find you don't need to build the Vamp Scepter into anything, the 12% lifesteal + your passive + your ultimate after 6 is all the sustain you need for the jungle.

I don't like going too heavy into lifesteal on Mundo because you are already so reliant on self-healing and healing reductions are already so powerful against you that it seems like a terrible idea to further your reliance on self-healing.

W at level 1 for sure. The damage is a whole rank ahead of Shyvana's W at all levels.

I don't think you can really fully map out jungle Mundo's skill order. It's like with jungle Cho'gath: Cho'gath's E is definitely the best skill for jungling, but you really just want to get as much of it as you need to feel comfortable with your speed, and after that skill Q and W for actual ganking/teamfighting.

The same thing applies with Mundo. After you get W and E at level 1 and 2, you get as much W as you need to feel comfortable with your farming speed (usually 2-3 ranks), and then max Q for ganks/teamfights. Mid-lategame skill priority is R>Q>E>W, just as you would do in lane.


I find jungle cho's skill order is pretty set, the clearspeed difference maxing E first is dramatic, and in a gank/group fight you are definitely going to be hitting a lot of autos. In lane it makes more sense to harass with your ranged spells, plus they let you just explode a wave of creeps without risk, but max E just like... does more for jungle cho. He just doesn't spend that much time harassing on a 13 second cooldown as a jungler.
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
Hidden_MotiveS
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada2562 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-08 01:30:57
February 08 2012 01:27 GMT
#2080
On February 08 2012 07:53 starfries wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2012 06:44 Hidden_MotiveS wrote:
You should get ionic spark on voli so people will be confused as to whether you're using your ult :p


On February 08 2012 06:23 starfries wrote:
Being able to use Q to run away is a nerf?

Explain!?

that was a sarcastic response to the people who think Volibear's changes were straight up nerfs just because you can't auto win the lane with W spam


On an unrelated note, are there any champions for which boots of swiftness are a viable choice?

1. Oh I thought they were talking about lee sin fly kicking his allies.
2. I know blitzcrank builds it a lot. He probably only gains a bit from that item. I wouldn't build it on him either tho :/
Singed also builds it.. again don't agree

Completely unrelated: I want to see a full fire theme team like annie, brand, fire wukong (must get at least 2 sunfire capes)etc..
a full lightning team, olaf, kennen, volibear (must get at least 2 ionic sparks)
a full ice team sejuani, ashe, nunu, anivia (must get at least 2 frozen heart/mallets)
being used in a scrim :p
Prev 1 102 103 104 105 106 176 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 1h 44m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
WinterStarcraft904
SortOf 173
StarCraft: Brood War
Shuttle 2582
Leta 467
Dewaltoss 120
Larva 40
Terrorterran 23
League of Legends
JimRising 709
Other Games
summit1g7313
XaKoH 106
amsayoshi45
Organizations
StarCraft: Brood War
Afreeca ASL 5840
Other Games
gamesdonequick2081
StarCraft: Brood War
UltimateBattle 202
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH315
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• lizZardDota2337
League of Legends
• Stunt587
Upcoming Events
RSL Revival
1h 44m
Clem vs Lambo
Scarlett vs Cure
CranKy Ducklings
2h 44m
Epic.LAN
5h 44m
IPSL
8h 44m
Dragon vs Hawk
RSL Revival
1d 1h
Classic vs Trap
herO vs SHIN
Sparkling Tuna Cup
1d 2h
OSC
1d 5h
IPSL
1d 8h
Bonyth vs Ret
WardiTV Weekly
2 days
Monday Night Weeklies
2 days
[ Show More ]
PiGosaur Cup
3 days
The PondCast
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
CrankTV Team League
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
CrankTV Team League
6 days
Korean StarCraft League
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Escore Tournament S3: W3
HSC XXIX
Eternal Conflict S2 E2

Ongoing

IPSL Spring 2026
Acropolis #4
YSL S3
CSL 2026 Summer (S21)
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3
ASL S22 SEASON OPEN Day 1
RSL Revival: Season 6
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
SCTL 2026 Spring
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S3: W4
ASL S22 SEASON OPEN Day 2
Escore Tournament S3: W5
CSLAN 4
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
HSC XXX
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
Light Tournament 2026
Eternal Conflict S2 Finale
Eternal Conflict S2 E3
Logitech G Connect 2026
StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #5
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.