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JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
January 23 2012 20:18 GMT
#1741
On January 24 2012 05:03 gtrsrs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2012 04:48 Shiv. wrote:
a) Gangplank can farm just fine against her and personally, I think his scaling is scarier than Irelia's. Riven, Trynd, Trundle, Udyr should work, too.


to nitpick
you definitely don't want to take trundle against irelia. he won't lose the lane but he has 0% chance to kill her if they are equally skilled players without heavy jungle intervention (and for what champ is that not also true) and even though farmed trundle is good, he's not even in the same league as irelia.

also even though udyr is a go-to champ that beats a lot of top lanes, irelia is quite strong against him. i would not pick udyr against irelia ever if i could avoid it.

Trundle lets you instagib irelia tho, or anybody else.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
Chiharu Harukaze
Profile Joined September 2011
12112 Posts
January 23 2012 20:25 GMT
#1742
On January 24 2012 05:05 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2012 04:59 overt wrote:
On January 23 2012 21:51 locodoco wrote:

new vlog


This got skipped over but holy shit. Pro League for LoL? That sounds so fucking awesome. Also, if you read this loco, is MiG the first team to have actual "practice partners?" Because if so that's pretty huge.


VLOG HAS OGN INVITE SPOILERS~~~

Loco hwaiting!

Edit: Real pro team. Has house. Wins tournament. Has another team for practice. I hope LoL explodes in Korea. The OGN tournament in March sounds pretty big.

CLG considering making team house in Korea just so they can participate in the $200k Proleague too!
It's like, "Is the Federation's Mobile Suit some kind of monster?"
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
January 23 2012 20:28 GMT
#1743
On January 24 2012 05:25 Chiharu Harukaze wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2012 05:05 NeoIllusions wrote:
On January 24 2012 04:59 overt wrote:
On January 23 2012 21:51 locodoco wrote:
http://youtu.be/pEyYegQSfZk
new vlog


This got skipped over but holy shit. Pro League for LoL? That sounds so fucking awesome. Also, if you read this loco, is MiG the first team to have actual "practice partners?" Because if so that's pretty huge.


VLOG HAS OGN INVITE SPOILERS~~~

Loco hwaiting!

Edit: Real pro team. Has house. Wins tournament. Has another team for practice. I hope LoL explodes in Korea. The OGN tournament in March sounds pretty big.

CLG considering making team house in Korea just so they can participate in the $200k Proleague too!


All talk atm imoimo. Getting a team house is a huge fucking step (albeit it is "needed" for a pro team). I was thoroughly impressed when TSM went through with it. I can only hope CLG bucks down and follow through. They are the biggest "money chasers" on the scene. They openly admit as much.

Can you imagine if CLGna got a gaming house and actually, *gasp*, practiced...?
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Senx
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Sweden5901 Posts
January 23 2012 20:29 GMT
#1744
Besides that CLG also needs to arrange a sub in order to have a fair chance in the korean tourney.
"trash micro but win - its marine" MC commentary during HSC 4
Chiharu Harukaze
Profile Joined September 2011
12112 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-23 20:32:14
January 23 2012 20:31 GMT
#1745
On January 24 2012 05:28 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2012 05:25 Chiharu Harukaze wrote:
On January 24 2012 05:05 NeoIllusions wrote:
On January 24 2012 04:59 overt wrote:
On January 23 2012 21:51 locodoco wrote:
http://youtu.be/pEyYegQSfZk
new vlog


This got skipped over but holy shit. Pro League for LoL? That sounds so fucking awesome. Also, if you read this loco, is MiG the first team to have actual "practice partners?" Because if so that's pretty huge.


VLOG HAS OGN INVITE SPOILERS~~~

Loco hwaiting!

Edit: Real pro team. Has house. Wins tournament. Has another team for practice. I hope LoL explodes in Korea. The OGN tournament in March sounds pretty big.

CLG considering making team house in Korea just so they can participate in the $200k Proleague too!


All talk atm imoimo. Getting a team house is a huge fucking step (albeit it is "needed" for a pro team). I was thoroughly impressed when TSM went through with it. I can only hope CLG bucks down and follow through. They are the biggest "money chasers" on the scene. They openly admit as much.

Can you imagine if CLGna got a gaming house and actually, *gasp*, practiced...?

Doublelift not facechecking and actually taking advantage of his mechanics? Jiji back at peak form? SaintVicious not always drunk? (Or does he get his power from Soju, who knows?) HSGG getting Nidaree status on four more champions? Chauster redefining Leona and the bottom lane?

CLG is always small flashes of brilliance, but rarely sustained. If they manned up and actually got everything together it would be terrifying imoimo.

On January 24 2012 05:29 Senx wrote:
Besides that CLG also needs to arrange a sub in order to have a fair chance in the korean tourney.

I call aLilac, ManyReason or LilBallz. Because NFGL.
It's like, "Is the Federation's Mobile Suit some kind of monster?"
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
January 23 2012 20:32 GMT
#1746
On January 24 2012 05:18 JackDino wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2012 05:03 gtrsrs wrote:
On January 24 2012 04:48 Shiv. wrote:
a) Gangplank can farm just fine against her and personally, I think his scaling is scarier than Irelia's. Riven, Trynd, Trundle, Udyr should work, too.


to nitpick
you definitely don't want to take trundle against irelia. he won't lose the lane but he has 0% chance to kill her if they are equally skilled players without heavy jungle intervention (and for what champ is that not also true) and even though farmed trundle is good, he's not even in the same league as irelia.

also even though udyr is a go-to champ that beats a lot of top lanes, irelia is quite strong against him. i would not pick udyr against irelia ever if i could avoid it.

Trundle lets you instagib irelia tho, or anybody else.


All that means is that tanks can't be as brave against trundle, nothing to do with irelia.
DoXa
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Switzerland1448 Posts
January 23 2012 20:33 GMT
#1747
On January 24 2012 05:28 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2012 05:25 Chiharu Harukaze wrote:
On January 24 2012 05:05 NeoIllusions wrote:
On January 24 2012 04:59 overt wrote:
On January 23 2012 21:51 locodoco wrote:
http://youtu.be/pEyYegQSfZk
new vlog


This got skipped over but holy shit. Pro League for LoL? That sounds so fucking awesome. Also, if you read this loco, is MiG the first team to have actual "practice partners?" Because if so that's pretty huge.


VLOG HAS OGN INVITE SPOILERS~~~

Loco hwaiting!

Edit: Real pro team. Has house. Wins tournament. Has another team for practice. I hope LoL explodes in Korea. The OGN tournament in March sounds pretty big.

CLG considering making team house in Korea just so they can participate in the $200k Proleague too!


All talk atm imoimo. Getting a team house is a huge fucking step (albeit it is "needed" for a pro team). I was thoroughly impressed when TSM went through with it. I can only hope CLG bucks down and follow through. They are the biggest "money chasers" on the scene. They openly admit as much.

Can you imagine if CLGna got a gaming house and actually, *gasp*, practiced...?


It's a huge risk imo.
What if the same thing happens with LoL like it happened to SC2? Alot of foreign teams wanted to get a teamhouse in KR and sent players to KR. And how many foreigners are staying in KR now?
Even though there is this one huge tournament, there has to be more. I'm not well informed about the KR scene, but i have the fear that the same thing happens as with SC2.
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
January 23 2012 20:34 GMT
#1748
On January 24 2012 05:32 Slayer91 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2012 05:18 JackDino wrote:
On January 24 2012 05:03 gtrsrs wrote:
On January 24 2012 04:48 Shiv. wrote:
a) Gangplank can farm just fine against her and personally, I think his scaling is scarier than Irelia's. Riven, Trynd, Trundle, Udyr should work, too.


to nitpick
you definitely don't want to take trundle against irelia. he won't lose the lane but he has 0% chance to kill her if they are equally skilled players without heavy jungle intervention (and for what champ is that not also true) and even though farmed trundle is good, he's not even in the same league as irelia.

also even though udyr is a go-to champ that beats a lot of top lanes, irelia is quite strong against him. i would not pick udyr against irelia ever if i could avoid it.

Trundle lets you instagib irelia tho, or anybody else.


All that means is that tanks can't be as brave against trundle, nothing to do with irelia.

It's why I added the anybody else part>.>, irelia because it was about irelia vs trundle n irelia being much moar useful.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-23 20:46:54
January 23 2012 20:45 GMT
#1749
On January 24 2012 05:33 DoXa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2012 05:28 NeoIllusions wrote:
On January 24 2012 05:25 Chiharu Harukaze wrote:
On January 24 2012 05:05 NeoIllusions wrote:
On January 24 2012 04:59 overt wrote:
On January 23 2012 21:51 locodoco wrote:
http://youtu.be/pEyYegQSfZk
new vlog


This got skipped over but holy shit. Pro League for LoL? That sounds so fucking awesome. Also, if you read this loco, is MiG the first team to have actual "practice partners?" Because if so that's pretty huge.


VLOG HAS OGN INVITE SPOILERS~~~

Loco hwaiting!

Edit: Real pro team. Has house. Wins tournament. Has another team for practice. I hope LoL explodes in Korea. The OGN tournament in March sounds pretty big.

CLG considering making team house in Korea just so they can participate in the $200k Proleague too!


All talk atm imoimo. Getting a team house is a huge fucking step (albeit it is "needed" for a pro team). I was thoroughly impressed when TSM went through with it. I can only hope CLG bucks down and follow through. They are the biggest "money chasers" on the scene. They openly admit as much.

Can you imagine if CLGna got a gaming house and actually, *gasp*, practiced...?


It's a huge risk imo.
What if the same thing happens with LoL like it happened to SC2? Alot of foreign teams wanted to get a teamhouse in KR and sent players to KR. And how many foreigners are staying in KR now?
Even though there is this one huge tournament, there has to be more. I'm not well informed about the KR scene, but i have the fear that the same thing happens as with SC2.


All of them but Doublelift (and actually he might have too, I'm not sure) put college on hold. It's not like they'd stop streaming either. I dunno if it'd even be permanent. Like, I take it that the biggest motivation for them to do it isn't so they can practice but so that they can participate in that 200K tournament (which I think might be the LoL Pro League?).

Then, I'm assuming, they would either stay in Korea longer if the scene looks like it'll take off or just come back to America if it isn't gonna take off in Korea. The only really concerning thing would be if Riot and other organizers would start considering them a Korean team or allow them to still play as an NA team. Oh, also, if they lose. It'd kind of suck to not make any money off a tournament like that after sinking money into a house.
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17266 Posts
January 23 2012 20:46 GMT
#1750
I don't see them dumping their girlfriends (2-3 of them living w/ one) and moving to the other side of the world despite not knowing a word of Korean just for a 200k league.
twitch.tv/cratonz
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
January 23 2012 20:47 GMT
#1751
On January 24 2012 05:46 Craton wrote:
I don't see them dumping their girlfriends (2-3 of them living w/ one) and moving to the other side of the world despite not knowing a word of Korean just for a 200k league.


According to saint if they did the Korean house Becca would come with them. He didn't say anything about Doublelift or jiji's girlfriends though.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-23 20:53:27
January 23 2012 20:49 GMT
#1752
@Craton: lolol, looking at it from the gf persepctive. ahaha
I know it's a legitimate point of view but it's still pretty hilar. :>

Edit: ... wat? I thought it was funny that you took the personal relationship aspect into consideration. afaik, most gamers would not have look at it from that way. zzzz ;<
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Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17266 Posts
January 23 2012 20:50 GMT
#1753
?
twitch.tv/cratonz
Flakes
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States3125 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-23 20:54:50
January 23 2012 20:54 GMT
#1754
On January 24 2012 03:32 Wala.Revolution wrote:
Oh it was galio. Galio's shield heals him for each tick of damage and rumble's Q ticks six times per Q.

whoah I never thought of that, did he heal 3 times for Udyr's old tiger stance autoattack? (I wish the developers actually did something with that mechanic but I guess it wasn't worth bugfixing).
edit: oh that was 2 pages ago I didn't refresh : \
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-23 21:08:07
January 23 2012 21:01 GMT
#1755
Sivir's scaling with AD marks+doran blade start is so disgusting in lane...

I feel like you can't harass her without boots either, because she'll just aa you (especially as Sona) if you get close enough to do it, and her passive will allow her to chase.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
January 23 2012 21:10 GMT
#1756
On January 24 2012 05:18 JackDino wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2012 05:03 gtrsrs wrote:
On January 24 2012 04:48 Shiv. wrote:
a) Gangplank can farm just fine against her and personally, I think his scaling is scarier than Irelia's. Riven, Trynd, Trundle, Udyr should work, too.


to nitpick
you definitely don't want to take trundle against irelia. he won't lose the lane but he has 0% chance to kill her if they are equally skilled players without heavy jungle intervention (and for what champ is that not also true) and even though farmed trundle is good, he's not even in the same league as irelia.

also even though udyr is a go-to champ that beats a lot of top lanes, irelia is quite strong against him. i would not pick udyr against irelia ever if i could avoid it.

Trundle lets you instagib irelia tho, or anybody else.


flawed logic - irelia can stun trundle or anyone else too, which trundle can't do
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
57 Corvette
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada5941 Posts
January 23 2012 21:11 GMT
#1757
Gtrsrs, you going to be updating the Galio thread? Don't think the OP has been changed since his ult got the damage reduction buff a while back
Survival is winning, everything else is bullshit.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
January 23 2012 21:15 GMT
#1758
On January 24 2012 05:32 Slayer91 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2012 05:18 JackDino wrote:
On January 24 2012 05:03 gtrsrs wrote:
On January 24 2012 04:48 Shiv. wrote:
a) Gangplank can farm just fine against her and personally, I think his scaling is scarier than Irelia's. Riven, Trynd, Trundle, Udyr should work, too.


to nitpick
you definitely don't want to take trundle against irelia. he won't lose the lane but he has 0% chance to kill her if they are equally skilled players without heavy jungle intervention (and for what champ is that not also true) and even though farmed trundle is good, he's not even in the same league as irelia.

also even though udyr is a go-to champ that beats a lot of top lanes, irelia is quite strong against him. i would not pick udyr against irelia ever if i could avoid it.

Trundle lets you instagib irelia tho, or anybody else.


All that means is that tanks can't be as brave against trundle, nothing to do with irelia.

Ehh, it has to do with Irelia (and also Udyr, Cho'gath, etc.) because her survivability items are primarily resist-based. Trundle primarily punishes tanks whose kits make their itemization favor resists over HP, because the resist steal is percentage-based while the health steal is flat. As such Warmogs-based tanks are much stronger against Trundle. Using a Trundle ulti on a tank with 200/200 armor/MR and 2000 HP is huge. Using a Trundle ulti on a tank with 70/70 armor/MR and 4000 HP is much less impactful.
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JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
January 23 2012 21:15 GMT
#1759
On January 24 2012 06:10 gtrsrs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2012 05:18 JackDino wrote:
On January 24 2012 05:03 gtrsrs wrote:
On January 24 2012 04:48 Shiv. wrote:
a) Gangplank can farm just fine against her and personally, I think his scaling is scarier than Irelia's. Riven, Trynd, Trundle, Udyr should work, too.


to nitpick
you definitely don't want to take trundle against irelia. he won't lose the lane but he has 0% chance to kill her if they are equally skilled players without heavy jungle intervention (and for what champ is that not also true) and even though farmed trundle is good, he's not even in the same league as irelia.

also even though udyr is a go-to champ that beats a lot of top lanes, irelia is quite strong against him. i would not pick udyr against irelia ever if i could avoid it.

Trundle lets you instagib irelia tho, or anybody else.


flawed logic - irelia can stun trundle or anyone else too, which trundle can't do

That would be true except irelia's stun is conditional, trundle can ult whenever, wasn't the point tho, just saying trundle ult real strong.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
January 23 2012 21:16 GMT
#1760
Cmon, everyone knows drunk saint is 3x the jungle sober saint is. Which makes drunk saint 3x the best jungle in the world.
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