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Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
January 22 2012 06:09 GMT
#1381
On January 22 2012 15:07 JBright wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2012 15:03 beefhamburger wrote:
Haha if anyone noticed, Cella is streaming LoL right now. He's Vayne and opens regrowth pendant into swift boots =P


Aren't those just the recommended items?

Phreak real phake plat.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
beefhamburger
Profile Joined December 2007
United States3962 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-22 06:12:05
January 22 2012 06:09 GMT
#1382
On January 22 2012 15:07 JBright wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2012 15:03 beefhamburger wrote:
Haha if anyone noticed, Cella is streaming LoL right now. He's Vayne and opens regrowth pendant into swift boots =P


Aren't those just the recommended items?

No idea since I don't even have her nor look at the recommended items for anyone lol. But yeah it looks like he's following the recommended items list and reading their descriptions.
R11
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Canada213 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-22 06:16:00
January 22 2012 06:15 GMT
#1383
I want to hear TL's opinion about Sona... I've been thinking about this for a while but decided to post this after seeing that in the IEM semi's, Sona was either picked or banned (Winning team in semi's all had Sona except 1 game she was banned)

In my mind, she is the strongest support when it comes to zoning people and building an advantage for your AD carry, as well as providing decent sustain with W. I think now with bot constantly warded and the summoner heal trend, people are even less willing to commit against a Sona/AD combo. This ends up giving extra room for Sona to be aggressive and beat out other supports to win the lane.

I was thinking about this earlier but I am starting to feel that people would still pick Sona even if her spells don't generate a passive aura simply because they are almost just bonuses from all the things she does well.

dignity
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada908 Posts
January 22 2012 06:17 GMT
#1384
Sona is good in the current meta with support/ad bot since she can both sustain and add some good utility/damage compared to other supports. She ends up being one of the most squishiest supports though and if the other team is playing a non-traditional lane (leona +jarman bot?) She ends up being worst than the pure sustain supports.
Alzadar
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada5009 Posts
January 22 2012 06:19 GMT
#1385
On January 22 2012 15:15 R11 wrote:
I want to hear TL's opinion about Sona... I've been thinking about this for a while but decided to post this after seeing that in the IEM semi's, Sona was either picked or banned (Winning team in semi's all had Sona except 1 game she was banned)

In my mind, she is the strongest support when it comes to zoning people and building an advantage for your AD carry, as well as providing decent sustain with W. I think now with bot constantly warded and the summoner heal trend, people are even less willing to commit against a Sona/AD combo. This ends up giving extra room for Sona to be aggressive and beat out other supports to win the lane.

I was thinking about this earlier but I am starting to feel that people would still pick Sona even if her spells don't generate a passive aura simply because they are almost just bonuses from all the things she does well.



Sona is definitely a cut above the rest, she does amazing damage, is tied for best healing and has a game-changing ultimate.

I think Sona is around the strength that supports should be, the others should be buffed to match her.
I am the Town Medic.
eagle
Profile Joined April 2009
United States693 Posts
January 22 2012 06:21 GMT
#1386
soraka healing is defenfinetly better healing
pschiu
Profile Joined April 2010
Singapore410 Posts
January 22 2012 06:27 GMT
#1387
On January 22 2012 15:19 Alzadar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2012 15:15 R11 wrote:
I want to hear TL's opinion about Sona... I've been thinking about this for a while but decided to post this after seeing that in the IEM semi's, Sona was either picked or banned (Winning team in semi's all had Sona except 1 game she was banned)

In my mind, she is the strongest support when it comes to zoning people and building an advantage for your AD carry, as well as providing decent sustain with W. I think now with bot constantly warded and the summoner heal trend, people are even less willing to commit against a Sona/AD combo. This ends up giving extra room for Sona to be aggressive and beat out other supports to win the lane.

I was thinking about this earlier but I am starting to feel that people would still pick Sona even if her spells don't generate a passive aura simply because they are almost just bonuses from all the things she does well.



Sona is definitely a cut above the rest, she does amazing damage, is tied for best healing and has a game-changing ultimate.

I think Sona is around the strength that supports should be, the others should be buffed to match her.


This please. Stop nerfing my Sona more. T.T
Hidden_MotiveS
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada2562 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-22 06:46:29
January 22 2012 06:46 GMT
#1388
Don't most of you hate playing support? Why make support more important to the game?
seRapH
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9776 Posts
January 22 2012 06:49 GMT
#1389
Poll: Do you hate playing support?

No (43)
 
91%

Yes (4)
 
9%

47 total votes

Your vote: Do you hate playing support?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No



boomer hands
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-22 06:52:34
January 22 2012 06:51 GMT
#1390
On January 22 2012 15:46 Hidden_MotiveS wrote:
Don't most of you hate playing support? Why make support more important to the game?

Given 2 ad carries of equal skill, the better support will win bot lane. Its the reason that TSM's bot lane is so good. Chaox is a competent carry, but Xpecial makes him look like a god.

And being able to peel/heal effectively makes the difference in teamfights that last longer than .5 seconds.

Of course, all that doesnt mean that it STILL doesnt suck to play support in solo q because 99% of the time your team will be retarded.

@ the poll, I dont really hate playing support in a nutshell. Better statement is do you hate playing support in solo q where you have no idea of the relative skill of your teammates.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
seRapH
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9776 Posts
January 22 2012 06:53 GMT
#1391
Sure, but in context of the question, which was why would you want support to be stronger if you hate playing it, making it stronger would let you do more in solo que
boomer hands
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
January 22 2012 07:02 GMT
#1392
The problem with playing support in solo q is that the threshold to actually be able to show off your skill and carry a game is a competent team. In other words, the only way to actually make support stronger is to make the average solo q team not suck balls.

So its impossible.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-22 07:04:42
January 22 2012 07:03 GMT
#1393
I like playing support, but only with a decent AD. Playing support with a retard who never harasses or dives crazily or doesn't notice junglers ganking through 4 wards is insanely not fun
In Hungry Hungry Hippos there are no such constraints—one can constantly attempt to collect marbles with one’s hippo, limited only by one’s hippo-levering capabilities.
Alzadar
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada5009 Posts
January 22 2012 07:07 GMT
#1394
On January 22 2012 15:46 Hidden_MotiveS wrote:
Don't most of you hate playing support? Why make support more important to the game?


Because then it would be more fun? It's kind of boring being the heal/ward bitch. But being a powerful lane harasser with a massive AoE stun? That's fun, because your effect on the game is very tangible and obvious.
I am the Town Medic.
starfries
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada3508 Posts
January 22 2012 07:22 GMT
#1395
If my AD carry is completely hopeless, I say "fuck this" and go gank people. Obviously it works better with Alistar than Soraka.
DJ – do you like ramen, Savior? Savior – not really. Bisu – I eat it often. Flash – I’m a maniac! | Foxer Fighting!
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20254 Posts
January 22 2012 07:25 GMT
#1396
Playing support is fun as fuck when you have a good AD. But when your have a moron then it becomes so frustrating.
Never Knows Best.
pschiu
Profile Joined April 2010
Singapore410 Posts
January 22 2012 07:29 GMT
#1397
On January 22 2012 16:03 sob3k wrote:
I like playing support, but only with a decent AD. Playing support with a retard who never harasses or dives crazily or doesn't notice junglers ganking through 4 wards is insanely not fun


/begin tryhard

Ally AD never harasses: npnp he farms and you harass and zone their AD and you still win.

Ally AD doesn't notice junglers ganking through wards: he WILL notice when you spam 10 pings+retreat pings. Also, if you harass your bot enemies enough and heal your ally enough and the jungler is derp enough (that's alot of ands) in rare cases it can even be a 1v2 countergank.

Ally AD has 1 cs by 3 mins: you start last hitting, nofarm AD + farmed support > enemy nofarm AD + nofarm support

Ally AD dives crazily: no idea

/end tryhard

Sometimes your team will derp *too* hard, then you just lulz and shout "Tonight we dine in hell!" and tryhard all the way. :3
wussleeQ
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States3130 Posts
January 22 2012 07:52 GMT
#1398
just played malphite in blind pick. they had corki yi garen and vayne... so freaking awesome. lol. got to troll and get like 666 armor with W up and was able to do so many retarded things
BW -> League -> CSGO
Hidden_MotiveS
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada2562 Posts
January 22 2012 08:20 GMT
#1399
On January 22 2012 15:49 seRapH wrote:
Poll: Do you hate playing support?

No (43)
 
91%

Yes (4)
 
9%

47 total votes

Your vote: Do you hate playing support?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No




Oh no I was wrong... don't look at me! Don't look D:
BlackMagister
Profile Joined October 2008
United States5834 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-22 08:35:46
January 22 2012 08:26 GMT
#1400
A cool support thing to do is to gank a lane lvl 1 with Taric which I've seen done in a few streams. Nobody really calls mias that early and the support could be either top or mid really. The only thing is I fear doing this in the normals that I play in because 10 seconds without a support is enough time for the AD carry to get themselves killed.

Support is fun enough for me though. I enjoy healing and supporting in teamfights as it present its own challenges. Just I hate not being able to talk quickly to your lane partner to fight or disengage. Sometimes with Alistar I will pulverize just to harass when they face check bushes, but then occasionally my partner thinks that means we're committing to fight and one of us ends up dying for no reason.
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