• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 10:02
CEST 16:02
KST 23:02
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Serral wins HomeStory Cup 2914Serral wins Maestros of the Game 243ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play3Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview12
Community News
ZeroSpace Early Access is Now Live!17Weekly Cups (July 13-19): Terran & Protoss rise; Zerg falters2Balance hotfix patch 5.0.16b (July 16)84Reynor: GSL Loss Wasn't About Preparation Format16[IPSL] Spring 2026 Grand Finals - This Weekend!18
StarCraft 2
General
August World Ranking Watchlist: Serral back to #1? How would you feel about frequent/monthly balance patches for SC2? Balance hotfix patch 5.0.16b (July 16) Clem: "I don't have that much hope in Blizzard" Weekly Cups (July 13-19): Terran & Protoss rise; Zerg falters
Tourneys
RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2) WardiTV Summer Cup 2026 GSL CK #5 Race War HomeStory Cup 29
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
[M] (2) Industrial Park New Map Maker - Looking for Advice - Love or Hate
External Content
Mutation # 535 Assembly of Vengeance The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 534 Burning Evacuation Mutation # 533 Die Together
Brood War
General
Animated Gateway BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ BW General Discussion HORROR STARCRAFT MOVIE How Famous was FlaSh before his Debut?
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [IPSL] Spring 2026 Grand Finals - This Weekend! Escore Tournament - Season 3 Small VOD Thread 2.0
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers PvT advise for noobs Fighting Spirit mining rates Creating a full chart of Zerg builds
Other Games
General Games
Path of Exile ZeroSpace Early Access is Now Live! General RTS Discussion Thread ZeroSpace at Steam NextFest - Last free demo Nintendo Switch Thread
Dota 2
Looking for a Dota Mentor Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
TSM pausing esports and CLG Dead
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Power Rank NeO.D_StephenKing vs This Guy From 1 Million Dance TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
Artificial Intelligence Thread US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread How to buy a book - shipping from Korea to Europe The Games Industry And ATVI
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club The HerO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread Series you have seen recently... Movie Discussion! [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Formula 1 Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023 McBoner: A hockey love story
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread Simple Questions Simple Answers FPS when play League Of Legend on laptop
TL Community
Northern Ireland Global Starcraft The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Hello guys!
LIN1s
Role of Gaming on Mental Hea…
TrAiDoS
ASL S22 English Commentary…
namkraft
Poker (part 2)
Nebuchad
An Exploration of th…
waywardstrategy
ramps on octagon
StaticNine
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 13116 users

[Patch 1.0.0.132: Sejuani] General Discussion - Page 70

Forum Index > LoL General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 68 69 70 71 72 193 Next
Public Service Announcement
Use the Champion threads whenever appropriate.
Don't use General Discussion simply out of ease.
=====
If you want to whine about server lag, use the QQ thread. We all suffer alike when Riot servers kaput. No need to make a post about it in GD.
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
January 22 2012 06:09 GMT
#1381
On January 22 2012 15:07 JBright wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2012 15:03 beefhamburger wrote:
Haha if anyone noticed, Cella is streaming LoL right now. He's Vayne and opens regrowth pendant into swift boots =P


Aren't those just the recommended items?

Phreak real phake plat.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
beefhamburger
Profile Joined December 2007
United States3962 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-22 06:12:05
January 22 2012 06:09 GMT
#1382
On January 22 2012 15:07 JBright wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2012 15:03 beefhamburger wrote:
Haha if anyone noticed, Cella is streaming LoL right now. He's Vayne and opens regrowth pendant into swift boots =P


Aren't those just the recommended items?

No idea since I don't even have her nor look at the recommended items for anyone lol. But yeah it looks like he's following the recommended items list and reading their descriptions.
R11
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Canada213 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-22 06:16:00
January 22 2012 06:15 GMT
#1383
I want to hear TL's opinion about Sona... I've been thinking about this for a while but decided to post this after seeing that in the IEM semi's, Sona was either picked or banned (Winning team in semi's all had Sona except 1 game she was banned)

In my mind, she is the strongest support when it comes to zoning people and building an advantage for your AD carry, as well as providing decent sustain with W. I think now with bot constantly warded and the summoner heal trend, people are even less willing to commit against a Sona/AD combo. This ends up giving extra room for Sona to be aggressive and beat out other supports to win the lane.

I was thinking about this earlier but I am starting to feel that people would still pick Sona even if her spells don't generate a passive aura simply because they are almost just bonuses from all the things she does well.

dignity
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada908 Posts
January 22 2012 06:17 GMT
#1384
Sona is good in the current meta with support/ad bot since she can both sustain and add some good utility/damage compared to other supports. She ends up being one of the most squishiest supports though and if the other team is playing a non-traditional lane (leona +jarman bot?) She ends up being worst than the pure sustain supports.
Alzadar
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada5009 Posts
January 22 2012 06:19 GMT
#1385
On January 22 2012 15:15 R11 wrote:
I want to hear TL's opinion about Sona... I've been thinking about this for a while but decided to post this after seeing that in the IEM semi's, Sona was either picked or banned (Winning team in semi's all had Sona except 1 game she was banned)

In my mind, she is the strongest support when it comes to zoning people and building an advantage for your AD carry, as well as providing decent sustain with W. I think now with bot constantly warded and the summoner heal trend, people are even less willing to commit against a Sona/AD combo. This ends up giving extra room for Sona to be aggressive and beat out other supports to win the lane.

I was thinking about this earlier but I am starting to feel that people would still pick Sona even if her spells don't generate a passive aura simply because they are almost just bonuses from all the things she does well.



Sona is definitely a cut above the rest, she does amazing damage, is tied for best healing and has a game-changing ultimate.

I think Sona is around the strength that supports should be, the others should be buffed to match her.
I am the Town Medic.
eagle
Profile Joined April 2009
United States693 Posts
January 22 2012 06:21 GMT
#1386
soraka healing is defenfinetly better healing
pschiu
Profile Joined April 2010
Singapore410 Posts
January 22 2012 06:27 GMT
#1387
On January 22 2012 15:19 Alzadar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2012 15:15 R11 wrote:
I want to hear TL's opinion about Sona... I've been thinking about this for a while but decided to post this after seeing that in the IEM semi's, Sona was either picked or banned (Winning team in semi's all had Sona except 1 game she was banned)

In my mind, she is the strongest support when it comes to zoning people and building an advantage for your AD carry, as well as providing decent sustain with W. I think now with bot constantly warded and the summoner heal trend, people are even less willing to commit against a Sona/AD combo. This ends up giving extra room for Sona to be aggressive and beat out other supports to win the lane.

I was thinking about this earlier but I am starting to feel that people would still pick Sona even if her spells don't generate a passive aura simply because they are almost just bonuses from all the things she does well.



Sona is definitely a cut above the rest, she does amazing damage, is tied for best healing and has a game-changing ultimate.

I think Sona is around the strength that supports should be, the others should be buffed to match her.


This please. Stop nerfing my Sona more. T.T
Hidden_MotiveS
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada2562 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-22 06:46:29
January 22 2012 06:46 GMT
#1388
Don't most of you hate playing support? Why make support more important to the game?
seRapH
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9808 Posts
January 22 2012 06:49 GMT
#1389
Poll: Do you hate playing support?

No (43)
 
91%

Yes (4)
 
9%

47 total votes

Your vote: Do you hate playing support?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No



boomer hands
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-22 06:52:34
January 22 2012 06:51 GMT
#1390
On January 22 2012 15:46 Hidden_MotiveS wrote:
Don't most of you hate playing support? Why make support more important to the game?

Given 2 ad carries of equal skill, the better support will win bot lane. Its the reason that TSM's bot lane is so good. Chaox is a competent carry, but Xpecial makes him look like a god.

And being able to peel/heal effectively makes the difference in teamfights that last longer than .5 seconds.

Of course, all that doesnt mean that it STILL doesnt suck to play support in solo q because 99% of the time your team will be retarded.

@ the poll, I dont really hate playing support in a nutshell. Better statement is do you hate playing support in solo q where you have no idea of the relative skill of your teammates.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
seRapH
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9808 Posts
January 22 2012 06:53 GMT
#1391
Sure, but in context of the question, which was why would you want support to be stronger if you hate playing it, making it stronger would let you do more in solo que
boomer hands
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
January 22 2012 07:02 GMT
#1392
The problem with playing support in solo q is that the threshold to actually be able to show off your skill and carry a game is a competent team. In other words, the only way to actually make support stronger is to make the average solo q team not suck balls.

So its impossible.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-22 07:04:42
January 22 2012 07:03 GMT
#1393
I like playing support, but only with a decent AD. Playing support with a retard who never harasses or dives crazily or doesn't notice junglers ganking through 4 wards is insanely not fun
In Hungry Hungry Hippos there are no such constraints—one can constantly attempt to collect marbles with one’s hippo, limited only by one’s hippo-levering capabilities.
Alzadar
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada5009 Posts
January 22 2012 07:07 GMT
#1394
On January 22 2012 15:46 Hidden_MotiveS wrote:
Don't most of you hate playing support? Why make support more important to the game?


Because then it would be more fun? It's kind of boring being the heal/ward bitch. But being a powerful lane harasser with a massive AoE stun? That's fun, because your effect on the game is very tangible and obvious.
I am the Town Medic.
starfries
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada3508 Posts
January 22 2012 07:22 GMT
#1395
If my AD carry is completely hopeless, I say "fuck this" and go gank people. Obviously it works better with Alistar than Soraka.
DJ – do you like ramen, Savior? Savior – not really. Bisu – I eat it often. Flash – I’m a maniac! | Foxer Fighting!
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20255 Posts
January 22 2012 07:25 GMT
#1396
Playing support is fun as fuck when you have a good AD. But when your have a moron then it becomes so frustrating.
Never Knows Best.
pschiu
Profile Joined April 2010
Singapore410 Posts
January 22 2012 07:29 GMT
#1397
On January 22 2012 16:03 sob3k wrote:
I like playing support, but only with a decent AD. Playing support with a retard who never harasses or dives crazily or doesn't notice junglers ganking through 4 wards is insanely not fun


/begin tryhard

Ally AD never harasses: npnp he farms and you harass and zone their AD and you still win.

Ally AD doesn't notice junglers ganking through wards: he WILL notice when you spam 10 pings+retreat pings. Also, if you harass your bot enemies enough and heal your ally enough and the jungler is derp enough (that's alot of ands) in rare cases it can even be a 1v2 countergank.

Ally AD has 1 cs by 3 mins: you start last hitting, nofarm AD + farmed support > enemy nofarm AD + nofarm support

Ally AD dives crazily: no idea

/end tryhard

Sometimes your team will derp *too* hard, then you just lulz and shout "Tonight we dine in hell!" and tryhard all the way. :3
wussleeQ
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States3130 Posts
January 22 2012 07:52 GMT
#1398
just played malphite in blind pick. they had corki yi garen and vayne... so freaking awesome. lol. got to troll and get like 666 armor with W up and was able to do so many retarded things
BW -> League -> CSGO
Hidden_MotiveS
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada2562 Posts
January 22 2012 08:20 GMT
#1399
On January 22 2012 15:49 seRapH wrote:
Poll: Do you hate playing support?

No (43)
 
91%

Yes (4)
 
9%

47 total votes

Your vote: Do you hate playing support?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No




Oh no I was wrong... don't look at me! Don't look D:
BlackMagister
Profile Joined October 2008
United States5834 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-22 08:35:46
January 22 2012 08:26 GMT
#1400
A cool support thing to do is to gank a lane lvl 1 with Taric which I've seen done in a few streams. Nobody really calls mias that early and the support could be either top or mid really. The only thing is I fear doing this in the normals that I play in because 10 seconds without a support is enough time for the AD carry to get themselves killed.

Support is fun enough for me though. I enjoy healing and supporting in teamfights as it present its own challenges. Just I hate not being able to talk quickly to your lane partner to fight or disengage. Sometimes with Alistar I will pulverize just to harass when they face check bushes, but then occasionally my partner thinks that means we're committing to fight and one of us ends up dying for no reason.
Prev 1 68 69 70 71 72 193 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Kung Fu Cup
11:00
2026 Week 16
IntoTheiNu 1493
WardiTV643
RotterdaM548
Ryung 479
TKL 203
Rex137
SteadfastSC129
EnkiAlexander 28
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Serral 946
RotterdaM 548
Ryung 479
TKL 203
Rex 137
SteadfastSC 129
BRAT_OK 44
trigger 11
RushiSC 8
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 4822
Rain 2806
Jaedong 1627
Horang2 1202
EffOrt 624
BeSt 513
Light 426
firebathero 422
Soulkey 347
Rush 246
[ Show more ]
hero 233
Stork 228
Snow 208
ggaemo 194
ZerO 189
Soma 178
Last 137
Zeus 124
Mong 104
Dewaltoss 96
Hyun 88
sorry 85
Pusan 76
Leta 64
NaDa 49
[sc1f]eonzerg 49
ToSsGirL 35
Movie 33
JYJ 31
JulyZerg 28
yabsab 22
GoRush 19
Hm[arnc] 19
Sacsri 17
Sexy 17
Nal_rA 16
Noble 16
Aegong 16
Rock 14
IntoTheRainbow 13
Yoon 12
ajuk12(nOOB) 12
zelot 8
Terrorterran 8
Dota 2
qojqva1678
XaKoH 283
syndereN268
XcaliburYe201
League of Legends
KnowMe41
Counter-Strike
fl0m3270
Other Games
FrodaN4202
B2W.Neo791
hiko702
Lowko543
Mlord390
uThermal300
Liquid`LucifroN180
Pyrionflax143
DeMusliM132
ArmadaUGS127
ToD94
Trikslyr26
CosmosSc2 24
ZerO(Twitch)17
Organizations
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 16 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• StrangeGG 40
• poizon28 2
• Kozan
• Migwel
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• sooper7s
• intothetv
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
StarCraft: Brood War
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• C_a_k_e 2123
• WagamamaTV389
League of Legends
• Nemesis2262
• TFBlade745
Upcoming Events
OSC
9h 58m
CrankTV Team League
20h 58m
Replay Cast
1d 9h
CrankTV Team League
1d 20h
Korean StarCraft League
2 days
Afreeca Starleague
2 days
RSL Revival
2 days
Serral vs SHIN
herO vs Solar
Online Event
3 days
Replay Cast
3 days
RSL Revival
3 days
Clem vs ByuN
Rogue vs Lambo
[ Show More ]
OSC
3 days
WardiTV Weekly
4 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
5 days
PiGosaur Cup
6 days
The PondCast
6 days
Kung Fu Cup
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-07-21
HSC XXIX
Eternal Conflict S2 E3

Ongoing

CSL 2026 Summer (S21)
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3
RSL Revival: Season 6
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
SCTL 2026 Spring
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S3: W4
ASL S22 SEASON OPEN Day 2
Escore Tournament S3: W5
ASL Season 22: Qualifier #1
ASL Season 22: Qualifier #2
CSLAN 4
ASL Season 22
HSC XXX
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
Light Tournament 2026
Eternal Conflict S2 Finale
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
Logitech G Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #5
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.