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Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17303 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-22 12:08:38
January 22 2012 12:06 GMT
#1421
Moreover, it's a lot easier to dodge Q than it is to land it. You shouldn't base the strength of the lane on the assumption that players will be bad. Judicious use of spellshield will keep Sivir with a lot of mana, as every support's spells can easily be shielded except Soraka (who does no meaningful damage anyway).
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Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23404 Posts
January 22 2012 12:06 GMT
#1422
Fighting over golems has been standing for like 3 months or so. Maybe not on US though, because phreak was going on how lucky it was that their bot lane randomly showed up bot when they were doing golems lollolo.
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17303 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-22 12:10:17
January 22 2012 12:09 GMT
#1423
The problem with fighting over it is the times where someone will be standing there waiting to kill you rather than trying to do it. You have to ward before entering, which puts you at a disadvantage due to a lot of wasted ward time. You also can't help your jungler with his leash at all.
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sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
January 22 2012 12:25 GMT
#1424
Here's my question:

Why does first blood get bonus gold?

Does it encourage aggressive play because you want to get it...or passive because you dont want to give it up?

Early kills are some of the most influential already because they have the entire game to snowball, why is it necessary to give them artificial importance?
In Hungry Hungry Hippos there are no such constraints—one can constantly attempt to collect marbles with one’s hippo, limited only by one’s hippo-levering capabilities.
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
January 22 2012 12:28 GMT
#1425
On January 22 2012 21:25 sob3k wrote:
Here's my question:

Why does first blood get bonus gold?

Does it encourage aggressive play because you want to get it...or passive because you dont want to give it up?

Early kills are some of the most influential already because they have the entire game to snowball, why is it necessary to give them artificial importance?

Encourages cool play liek towerdives because it's fb, it's worth it n shit. Game would be a bit more boring without bonus gold on fb.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17303 Posts
January 22 2012 12:32 GMT
#1426
I don't think it makes much difference.
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JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
January 22 2012 12:35 GMT
#1427
On January 22 2012 21:32 Craton wrote:
I don't think it makes much difference.

It does for me, try real hard to get that FB if I can, if fb is gone I don't really give a shit anymore.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
January 22 2012 12:40 GMT
#1428
I wish they would remove that Havoc mastery from the offensive tree and put the spellvamp there from utility. >.>
Cackle™
Zhiroo
Profile Joined February 2011
Kosovo2724 Posts
January 22 2012 12:53 GMT
#1429
Why do people keep insisting playing Kayle support, she's so shit.
LoL EuW: Zhiroo - By starting this squabble you've proven nothing but how vast your stupidity is.
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
January 22 2012 13:08 GMT
#1430
On January 22 2012 19:59 Treadmill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2012 19:56 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
On January 22 2012 18:43 Hidden_MotiveS wrote:
On January 22 2012 17:26 BlackMagister wrote:
A cool support thing to do is to gank a lane lvl 1 with Taric which I've seen done in a few streams. Nobody really calls mias that early and the support could be either top or mid really. The only thing is I fear doing this in the normals that I play in because 10 seconds without a support is enough time for the AD carry to get themselves killed.

Support is fun enough for me though. I enjoy healing and supporting in teamfights as it present its own challenges. Just I hate not being able to talk quickly to your lane partner to fight or disengage. Sometimes with Alistar I will pulverize just to harass when they face check bushes, but then occasionally my partner thinks that means we're committing to fight and one of us ends up dying for no reason.

Correct me if I'm wrong but a team did the taric thing recently in the Kiev IEM. They forced a flash, but were just shy of the kill.


Dignitas did that yes, but Ryze just flashed away.

Didn't 'just flash away'. I'm pretty sure he got ganked very soon afterwards and died because he had no flash. So it was definitely worth it.


The second that bottom lane saw taric was middle they started zoning though. Not worth it imo
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
mr_tolkien
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France8631 Posts
January 22 2012 13:14 GMT
#1431
On January 22 2012 21:53 Zhiroo wrote:
Why do people keep insisting playing Kayle support, she's so shit.

Kayle solo top is beastly VS bruisers though. Ranged + slow + heal = infinitly hard to counter.
The legend of Darien lives on
sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
January 22 2012 13:14 GMT
#1432
On January 22 2012 21:53 Zhiroo wrote:
Why do people keep insisting playing Kayle support, she's so shit.


Because if you shield your ad carry from veigar's full combo+DFG its so satisfying that it makes being completely worthless and losing irrelevant.

She's not THAT bad, certainly not nearly as good as any real support but i'd rather have a kayle than a support volibear
In Hungry Hungry Hippos there are no such constraints—one can constantly attempt to collect marbles with one’s hippo, limited only by one’s hippo-levering capabilities.
57 Corvette
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada5941 Posts
January 22 2012 15:07 GMT
#1433
So, is Sivir worth banning in solo queue?
Survival is winning, everything else is bullshit.
Treadmill
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada2833 Posts
January 22 2012 15:12 GMT
#1434
On January 22 2012 22:14 sob3k wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2012 21:53 Zhiroo wrote:
Why do people keep insisting playing Kayle support, she's so shit.


Because if you shield your ad carry from veigar's full combo+DFG its so satisfying that it makes being completely worthless and losing irrelevant.

She's not THAT bad, certainly not nearly as good as any real support but i'd rather have a kayle than a support volibear

So long as the person playing Kayle doesn't make the mistake of trying to use her heal to heal someone.

(not even kidding; takes waaaaay too much mana. just q-e kite and zone.)
Kaniol
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Poland5551 Posts
January 22 2012 15:50 GMT
#1435
On January 23 2012 00:07 57 Corvette wrote:
So, is Sivir worth banning in solo queue?

Yes
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14081 Posts
January 22 2012 15:53 GMT
#1436
Oh gawd, IEM Kiev stream advertising TL. =(
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-22 16:16:22
January 22 2012 16:12 GMT
#1437
On January 23 2012 00:53 r.Evo wrote:
Oh gawd, IEM Kiev stream advertising TL. =(

This is bad why? Retards will get banned, good people might join, don't see the problem.
Not to mention TL has been advertised during multiple IEMs and MLGs anyways.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
starfries
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada3508 Posts
January 22 2012 16:13 GMT
#1438
On January 23 2012 01:12 JackDino wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2012 00:53 r.Evo wrote:
Oh gawd, IEM Kiev stream advertising TL. =(

This is bad why? Retards will get banned, good people might join, don't see the problem.

We're a hipster community ^_^
DJ – do you like ramen, Savior? Savior – not really. Bisu – I eat it often. Flash – I’m a maniac! | Foxer Fighting!
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14081 Posts
January 22 2012 16:14 GMT
#1439
On January 23 2012 01:12 JackDino wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2012 00:53 r.Evo wrote:
Oh gawd, IEM Kiev stream advertising TL. =(

This is bad why? Retards will get banned, good people might join, don't see the problem.


I still have a trauma from when the SC2 crowd overran my beloved TL. I think it's that trauma in me that hates seeing big influxes at once. =D
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
Chiharu Harukaze
Profile Joined September 2011
12112 Posts
January 22 2012 16:16 GMT
#1440
On January 23 2012 01:14 r.Evo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2012 01:12 JackDino wrote:
On January 23 2012 00:53 r.Evo wrote:
Oh gawd, IEM Kiev stream advertising TL. =(

This is bad why? Retards will get banned, good people might join, don't see the problem.


I still have a trauma from when the SC2 crowd overran my beloved TL. I think it's that trauma in me that hates seeing big influxes at once. =D

I was part of TL back before it was cool, when it has ghetto BW restreams /hipster
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