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anmolsinghmzn2009
Profile Joined June 2011
India1783 Posts
January 22 2012 20:09 GMT
#1461
On January 23 2012 02:48 Two_DoWn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2012 02:45 mr_tolkien wrote:
SO MANY SHYVANAS. Seriously. One per game.
>.>

And when they're top against me they always try to take red or gols and I always kill them. Sad day for the dragons.

Yarp. Imma have to retire shyvana I think.

Any opinions on what I should abuse in jungle for a few weeks before some ahole streamer ruins it for me again?

Mastering new Jax seems like it could be fun. Or I could try to actually perfect TF. Thoughts?

Jungle fizz?
Dunk first. Ask questions while dunking.
Kaniol
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Poland5551 Posts
January 22 2012 20:09 GMT
#1462
On January 23 2012 05:02 anmolsinghmzn2009 wrote:
How good is olaf currently in jungle/top lane? I hardly see anyone playing him nowadays except for one random guy in a normal who just rolled my team really badly.

He is good, solo top Olaf is really strong, same for jungle Olaf but it's easy to "snowball backwards" if you are behind.
TBH if you like a champion just play it... People will flame you for picks that are not seen too often but i wouldn't care
Zhiroo
Profile Joined February 2011
Kosovo2724 Posts
January 22 2012 20:12 GMT
#1463
Holy shit TRM getting a lot of shit thrown at him for the loss of TSM.
LoL EuW: Zhiroo - By starting this squabble you've proven nothing but how vast your stupidity is.
freelander
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Hungary4707 Posts
January 22 2012 20:16 GMT
#1464
On January 23 2012 01:14 r.Evo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2012 01:12 JackDino wrote:
On January 23 2012 00:53 r.Evo wrote:
Oh gawd, IEM Kiev stream advertising TL. =(

This is bad why? Retards will get banned, good people might join, don't see the problem.


I still have a trauma from when the SC2 crowd overran my beloved TL. I think it's that trauma in me that hates seeing big influxes at once. =D


guy from 2006 talkin .. <_<
And all is illuminated.
anmolsinghmzn2009
Profile Joined June 2011
India1783 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-22 20:23:46
January 22 2012 20:22 GMT
#1465
On January 23 2012 05:09 Kaniol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2012 05:02 anmolsinghmzn2009 wrote:
How good is olaf currently in jungle/top lane? I hardly see anyone playing him nowadays except for one random guy in a normal who just rolled my team really badly.

He is good, solo top Olaf is really strong, same for jungle Olaf but it's easy to "snowball backwards" if you are behind.
TBH if you like a champion just play it... People will flame you for picks that are not seen too often but i wouldn't care


Oh I'm gonna buy him anyway. I always play champions based on fun rather than the current fotm. I was just asking what others thought about him and why isn't seen much nowadays.
Dunk first. Ask questions while dunking.
freelander
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Hungary4707 Posts
January 22 2012 20:26 GMT
#1466
On January 23 2012 05:22 anmolsinghmzn2009 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2012 05:09 Kaniol wrote:
On January 23 2012 05:02 anmolsinghmzn2009 wrote:
How good is olaf currently in jungle/top lane? I hardly see anyone playing him nowadays except for one random guy in a normal who just rolled my team really badly.

He is good, solo top Olaf is really strong, same for jungle Olaf but it's easy to "snowball backwards" if you are behind.
TBH if you like a champion just play it... People will flame you for picks that are not seen too often but i wouldn't care


Oh I'm gonna buy him anyway. I always play champions based on fun rather than the current fotm. I was just asking about what others thought about him and why isn't seen much nowadays.


he is not seen a lot because he is not as good as other champs at the moment, though he certainly has his strengths.

He's kinda binary at top lane. If he can land his E spell consistently then he is good, if the other champ can kite him or last hit from far he is not that good.
He is an okay counterpick against irelia, for example.
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NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
January 22 2012 20:31 GMT
#1467
On January 23 2012 05:16 freelander wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2012 01:14 r.Evo wrote:
On January 23 2012 01:12 JackDino wrote:
On January 23 2012 00:53 r.Evo wrote:
Oh gawd, IEM Kiev stream advertising TL. =(

This is bad why? Retards will get banned, good people might join, don't see the problem.


I still have a trauma from when the SC2 crowd overran my beloved TL. I think it's that trauma in me that hates seeing big influxes at once. =D


guy from 2006 talkin .. <_<


guy from 2004 talkin .. >_>

trolol
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Ym1r
Profile Joined May 2009
United States1164 Posts
January 22 2012 20:35 GMT
#1468
The hell is up with the mass influx of AD kennen?
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Cloud
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Sexico5880 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-22 20:41:05
January 22 2012 20:38 GMT
#1469
On January 23 2012 05:35 Ym1r wrote:
The hell is up with the mass influx of AD kennen?


Everyone is like 'sigh M5' when I pick shyvanna when she's my main jungler :p

ps. Jungle fizz is SO BAD, like omg.
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Zhiroo
Profile Joined February 2011
Kosovo2724 Posts
January 22 2012 20:58 GMT
#1470
How do people deal with Yorick? No matter what I try doesn't work, every time he just crushes me...
LoL EuW: Zhiroo - By starting this squabble you've proven nothing but how vast your stupidity is.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-22 21:03:51
January 22 2012 21:01 GMT
#1471
So, TL, since I probably won't get to test jungle Shyvanna much before next tuesday, which junglers would you advice me to try out?

Random stuff about my playstyle:
- I like mobility, as in ability to get in and out of the enemy's jungle in the blink of an eye (see Trundle's contaminate, or Maokai E->W to jump walls)
- I almost only pick "autonomous" champs, as in able to fend by themselves (so no Amumu, Fiddle, or other stuff that may need particular attention). I seek this goal by generally two means: beefiness (but most junglers are anyway) and/or being slippery (Morgana's BS, Pantheon's ult if I can't just kill them, Irelia's passive, Trundle's pillar, Swain's cc, etc.)
- I can do without cc but that'd be a big plus
- I also like being active (the reason why I didn't start with WW, who seemed to passively rush 6 ; otoh, Trundle and Maokai have spells that are potentially game-changing during teamfight, as well as jungle presence very early)
- I'm not picking up Rammus, at least while using French sounds

From what I collected stuff like Lee Sin, Olaf, Shyvanna would stick, but Shyv isn't going to be available the upcoming weeks, and I'll wait next LS free week as I didn't do well when I first tried him.
Isn't Olaf a risky jungler as he gets quite low on his clears, too?
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Zhiroo
Profile Joined February 2011
Kosovo2724 Posts
January 22 2012 21:02 GMT
#1472
What about Udyr? You can steal enemy camps very fast with Phoenix.
LoL EuW: Zhiroo - By starting this squabble you've proven nothing but how vast your stupidity is.
NotSorry
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States6722 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-22 21:10:16
January 22 2012 21:05 GMT
#1473
On January 23 2012 05:31 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2012 05:16 freelander wrote:
On January 23 2012 01:14 r.Evo wrote:
On January 23 2012 01:12 JackDino wrote:
On January 23 2012 00:53 r.Evo wrote:
Oh gawd, IEM Kiev stream advertising TL. =(

This is bad why? Retards will get banned, good people might join, don't see the problem.


I still have a trauma from when the SC2 crowd overran my beloved TL. I think it's that trauma in me that hates seeing big influxes at once. =D


guy from 2006 talkin .. <_<


guy from 2004 talkin .. >_>

trolol


guy from December 2002 talkin....<_<

damn bandwagon late comers
We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. - Orwell
Awesomo
Profile Joined June 2010
Netherlands206 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-22 21:09:23
January 22 2012 21:09 GMT
#1474
2010 is where it's at


On January 23 2012 06:01 Alaric wrote:
So, TL, since I probably won't get to test jungle Shyvanna much before next tuesday, which junglers would you advice me to try out?

Random stuff about my playstyle:
- I like things udyr does
- I almost only pick "autonomous" champs, as in udyr
- I can do without cc but that'd be a big plus
- I also like being active (the reason why I didn't start with WW, but pick udyr instead)
- I'm not picking up Rammus, at least while using udyr

From what I collected stuff like Lee Sin, Olaf, Shyvanna would stick, but Shyv isn't going to be available the upcoming weeks, and I'll wait next LS free week as I didn't do well when I first tried him.
Isn't Olaf a risky jungler as he gets quite low on his clears, too?
I have an ice-cold beer, everything is possible.
starfries
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada3508 Posts
January 22 2012 21:12 GMT
#1475
I think jungle Jax is a great choice. He clears reasonably fast, and has pretty good ganks. His new ult gives him tons of killing power even without items, and later on you can still take lane farm and carry. He reminds me a bit of jungle Olaf in that respect except with much better ganks.
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UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
January 22 2012 21:25 GMT
#1476
olaf isn't really at risk, you can even start dorans blade and clear VERY fast without going below i think about half, if that's too risky for you open cloth and 2/3 pots or something
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14080 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-22 21:32:00
January 22 2012 21:29 GMT
#1477
On January 23 2012 05:31 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2012 05:16 freelander wrote:
On January 23 2012 01:14 r.Evo wrote:
On January 23 2012 01:12 JackDino wrote:
On January 23 2012 00:53 r.Evo wrote:
Oh gawd, IEM Kiev stream advertising TL. =(

This is bad why? Retards will get banned, good people might join, don't see the problem.


I still have a trauma from when the SC2 crowd overran my beloved TL. I think it's that trauma in me that hates seeing big influxes at once. =D


guy from 2006 talkin .. <_<


guy from 2004 talkin .. >_>

trolol


Always those people who make accounts at every site they've visited once .. ^_^

Took me like 3 years of lurking till I dared to make an account, hell, I only started posting a lot in the last 2 years or so. Damn you, EvE and League of Legends.


Edit:
On January 23 2012 06:01 Alaric wrote:
So, TL, since I probably won't get to test jungle Shyvanna much before next tuesday, which junglers would you advice me to try out?

Random stuff about my playstyle:
- I like mobility, as in ability to get in and out of the enemy's jungle in the blink of an eye (see Trundle's contaminate, or Maokai E->W to jump walls)
- I almost only pick "autonomous" champs, as in able to fend by themselves (so no Amumu, Fiddle, or other stuff that may need particular attention). I seek this goal by generally two means: beefiness (but most junglers are anyway) and/or being slippery (Morgana's BS, Pantheon's ult if I can't just kill them, Irelia's passive, Trundle's pillar, Swain's cc, etc.)
- I can do without cc but that'd be a big plus
- I also like being active (the reason why I didn't start with WW, who seemed to passively rush 6 ; otoh, Trundle and Maokai have spells that are potentially game-changing during teamfight, as well as jungle presence very early)
- I'm not picking up Rammus, at least while using French sounds

From what I collected stuff like Lee Sin, Olaf, Shyvanna would stick, but Shyv isn't going to be available the upcoming weeks, and I'll wait next LS free week as I didn't do well when I first tried him.
Isn't Olaf a risky jungler as he gets quite low on his clears, too?


Try Yi. I think he's seriously underrated in the new jungle. I picked him up again in some normals not too long ago and his clearspeed is up there with the god-tier of Shyv/Udyr, also he massively benefits from same things as Shyv does (mass jungle farm, stronk counterganks).
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-22 21:35:28
January 22 2012 21:34 GMT
#1478
Why play yi when you can play noct, clears real fucking fast aswell, ganks better, can initiate, can tank, can assassinate can do whatever.
If you like yi more then sure, but if you're looking for a new jungler noct is better than yi.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14080 Posts
January 22 2012 21:45 GMT
#1479
On January 23 2012 06:34 JackDino wrote:
Why play yi when you can play noct, clears real fucking fast aswell, ganks better, can initiate, can tank, can assassinate can do whatever.
If you like yi more then sure, but if you're looking for a new jungler noct is better than yi.


He ganks better. That's about it. Yi clears faster, can initiate, can tank, can assassinate, can do whatever.

Wriggles -> GB -> BT -> GA.
Wriggles -> Triforce -> Tankshit.
Wriggles -> Fatmogs.
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
Mondeezy
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1938 Posts
January 22 2012 21:49 GMT
#1480
How do you beat a fed Morgana? I was Vayne, and couldn't get in range of her to 4 shot her without her snare taking out half my hp then the rest of their team jumping on me. Keep in mind that my team wasn't the best and would target what ever they wanted, but would Banshee's Veil work?
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