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Terranasaur
Profile Joined May 2011
United States2085 Posts
January 05 2012 18:34 GMT
#1461
I solo'd Baron in a game with Noc last night, just to see if I could.

Dude is beast.
Decisions Determine Destiny - Terranasaur#1719 D3 #557 SC2 3DS FC: 2423-3623-8068
daemir
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland8662 Posts
January 05 2012 18:35 GMT
#1462
Oddone has his rage moments too, but he gives a ton of quality commentary about his play and insights about the jungle routes and all that while he plays. I'm sure he does it as much for himself as to the viewers, helps to keep you on track when you do an audible check list of what should be happening constantly.

And the trashbag wars are entertaining ^_^
Sandster
Profile Joined November 2006
United States4054 Posts
January 05 2012 18:37 GMT
#1463
Haha I sneaked a view at work and he's shitting on stream on this Talon for picking the "douchebag skin".
SHr3DD3r
Profile Joined March 2009
Pakistan2137 Posts
January 05 2012 18:37 GMT
#1464
On January 06 2012 03:28 Mogwai wrote:
Noct and Jarman are the 2 best kept secrets of the new jungle. still not sure why neither has blown up yet now that rammus, skarnar and shaco are perma banned.

Whenever my Shaco and Rammus are banned - I always try to go Jarvan if I am jungling (but teammates troll and rage in champ select then cause they are retarded - so am forced to try and carry them with Lee Sin). But when I do take Jarvan it's almost always a curbstomp.
Hit them hard! Hit them low! - Forever a Bisu Fan!~!
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
January 05 2012 18:46 GMT
#1465
OddOne mad at Talon. So mad.
It's your boy Guzma!
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17250 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-05 19:35:21
January 05 2012 18:51 GMT
#1466
Multiple d/cs in my last two games.

Getting real old, Riot.

[Edit]
3 for 3 now.
twitch.tv/cratonz
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
January 05 2012 18:54 GMT
#1467
I only DC when loading. That said, it's about half the time I'll just DC at the loading splash screen and have to reload back in and be behind. Annoying as crap.
It's your boy Guzma!
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
January 05 2012 18:57 GMT
#1468
On January 06 2012 01:26 Mogwai wrote:
yea, no doubt. Pantheon encourages hyper aggression like no other and I love it, but when you look at his kit it's pretty straight forward and while I do think I play Pantheon better than the average bear, there is nothing more satisfying to me than playing a teamfight well with Jarman. People used to talk shit about how easy Jarman was to play, but if you look at the difference between how your average "derp ult the carry" jarman player and myself play teamfights, you'll actually see that there's a ton of finesse behind playing the fucker well and I find that extremely rewarding and fun.


I found him kinda boring the two weeks where I got to test him, probably because I had no idea how to play him since I thought him too straightforward and you're talking about finesse. So, what kind of style are you supposed to play with him in teamfights?

Getting in the middle to cc people with your shield, knock-up combo, items like Phage, and generally messing with their positioning? Sticking to them, and using every opportunity to proc your passive without overextending? Keeping the ult to prevent someone from fleeing, or to cut the enemy team in two if the fight occurs in the jungle?
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
January 05 2012 19:01 GMT
#1469
On January 06 2012 03:51 Craton wrote:
Multiple d/cs in my last two games.

Getting real old, Riot.


Same, took 4 tries to get through champ select. When i finally got in a game, 1 dc on my team, 2 on enemy team at exact same time. Fortunately, gtrsrs was on the enemy team ;P
Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
deskscaress
Profile Joined May 2011
United States399 Posts
January 05 2012 19:03 GMT
#1470
On January 06 2012 04:01 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2012 03:51 Craton wrote:
Multiple d/cs in my last two games.

Getting real old, Riot.


Same, took 4 tries to get through champ select. When i finally got in a game, 1 dc on my team, 2 on enemy team at exact same time. Fortunately, gtrsrs was on the enemy team ;P


so manner, ganking as soon as our 2 d/c

also real manner duoing with a plat on a smurf lol
would you ever miss it?
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
January 05 2012 19:10 GMT
#1471
On January 06 2012 03:57 Alaric wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2012 01:26 Mogwai wrote:
yea, no doubt. Pantheon encourages hyper aggression like no other and I love it, but when you look at his kit it's pretty straight forward and while I do think I play Pantheon better than the average bear, there is nothing more satisfying to me than playing a teamfight well with Jarman. People used to talk shit about how easy Jarman was to play, but if you look at the difference between how your average "derp ult the carry" jarman player and myself play teamfights, you'll actually see that there's a ton of finesse behind playing the fucker well and I find that extremely rewarding and fun.


I found him kinda boring the two weeks where I got to test him, probably because I had no idea how to play him since I thought him too straightforward and you're talking about finesse. So, what kind of style are you supposed to play with him in teamfights?

Getting in the middle to cc people with your shield, knock-up combo, items like Phage, and generally messing with their positioning? Sticking to them, and using every opportunity to proc your passive without overextending? Keeping the ult to prevent someone from fleeing, or to cut the enemy team in two if the fight occurs in the jungle?

he's completely flexible in terms of what he can do for his team in teamfights. He can initiate, he can dive and burst, he can peel, he can cover an escape or pick off someone out of position. He does whatever you need him to do, but people still always just see the enemy team and E -> Q -> R -> W into the middle of them and hope for the best. whatever, if you don't find his teamfighting engaging, then don't play him, I'm just saying I feel that I can impact fights better with jarman than I can with anyone else.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
January 05 2012 19:12 GMT
#1472
Oddone: "Everytime I see someone pick Caitlyn I think they don't play AD's very much, I don't like her as a lane champ anymore"

wat
It's your boy Guzma!
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
January 05 2012 19:15 GMT
#1473
On January 06 2012 04:03 deskscaress wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2012 04:01 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On January 06 2012 03:51 Craton wrote:
Multiple d/cs in my last two games.

Getting real old, Riot.


Same, took 4 tries to get through champ select. When i finally got in a game, 1 dc on my team, 2 on enemy team at exact same time. Fortunately, gtrsrs was on the enemy team ;P


so manner, ganking as soon as our 2 d/c

also real manner duoing with a plat on a smurf lol


Idk who that guy was, but he was a total dick. I reported him afterwards. He claimed he was hightemplar or something?

And yeah, it was pretty bm, but I've learned to do whatever I need to in order to win in solo q. <3
Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
January 05 2012 19:19 GMT
#1474
On January 06 2012 04:12 Requizen wrote:
Oddone: "Everytime I see someone pick Caitlyn I think they don't play AD's very much, I don't like her as a lane champ anymore"

wat

Explains why shikyo likes him for his insight.

User was warned for this post
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-05 19:20:07
January 05 2012 19:19 GMT
#1475
On January 06 2012 03:34 Terranasaur wrote:
I solo'd Baron in a game with Noc last night, just to see if I could.

Dude is beast.

Hm I soloed baron with Ryze so

On January 06 2012 04:19 JackDino wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2012 04:12 Requizen wrote:
Oddone: "Everytime I see someone pick Caitlyn I think they don't play AD's very much, I don't like her as a lane champ anymore"

wat

Explains why shikyo likes him for his insight.

wat (i dont need to agree with everything he says to like his streaming, also stop being an asshole please and try doing something useful)
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
January 05 2012 19:22 GMT
#1476
On January 06 2012 04:12 Requizen wrote:
Oddone: "Everytime I see someone pick Caitlyn I think they don't play AD's very much, I don't like her as a lane champ anymore"

wat

Agree...
No AD steroid. People in pro games play too passive and can't zone with her.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-05 19:23:15
January 05 2012 19:22 GMT
#1477
Just did a 2 day grind fest of LoL w/ IP boost with my friend. Epic fun :D.

Went roaming AP shaco for 4 games, won each one. (most fun i've had)Like a boss. 1 of the games, I made 2 of the enemies rage quit (the top lane GP, and the jungling shaco), the other games, I just made the entire enemy team rage at me as they kept dying in their jungle to my boxes.

I guess I'll post my makeshift AP shaco roaming guide.

Runes.
mpen reds
gp10 yellows
cdr blues
gp10 quints.

9/0/21. (gold stuff for utility), 9 points in ap offensive.
flash/tele

Ability tomb + mana pots, opening build.

Run straight into enemy jungle, if they have a jungler (usually they do). If they start blue, box up right behind the bush (closest to the wraiths). NOT IN BUSH. this is why, because if you put it in bush, box will activate while they're not in the bush. If you put it slightly outside the bush, (away from mid lane),that way the box won't activate till they're ON TOP of the boxes, almost always insuring a kill.

If they start red, just jack their blue. (they usually don't need it anyways if they do start red.) and just keep boxing their jungle.

Also, your bot lane should ideally have someone who can 1v2, like heimer, or morde, since lack of lane presence from jungle + roaming shaco, with that being said, always pop up randomly in bot lane with a jungler. It'll keep enemy bot lane playing passive, rather than aggressive.

Rest of the build is, kage's lucky pick, mobility boots (or sorc, depending on enemy team comp), philo stone, avarice blade, hog.
You'll actually be keeping up with your lane mates in gold, with runes + gp10 items! Next, get Death Fire Grasp, then Voidstaff. From there you can get your Death Cap. People won't like the massive amount of gp10 items I get, but I think each one works amazing with shaco, they're all solid items for shaco. Also, after all the gp10 items are built, oracles is almost always a must! they'll get tired of you boxing their jungle, so they'll ward up, keep um guessing by removing their wards.

Also, R>W>E>Q
liftlift > tsm
Shiv.
Profile Joined January 2011
3534 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-05 19:27:10
January 05 2012 19:25 GMT
#1478
On January 06 2012 04:22 obesechicken13 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2012 04:12 Requizen wrote:
Oddone: "Everytime I see someone pick Caitlyn I think they don't play AD's very much, I don't like her as a lane champ anymore"

wat

Agree...
No AD steroid. People in pro games play too passive and can't zone with her.

Not having an AD steroid is important in team fights, not in lane. And you can still harass anyone that goes for a last hit. Not saying she is good, but saying she is not good champion IN LANE is kind of ridiculous.

On January 06 2012 04:22 wei2coolman wrote:
You'll actually be keeping up with your lane mates in gold, with runes + gp10 items!

wat.
currently rooting for myself.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
January 05 2012 19:28 GMT
#1479
On January 06 2012 04:25 Shiv. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2012 04:22 obesechicken13 wrote:
On January 06 2012 04:12 Requizen wrote:
Oddone: "Everytime I see someone pick Caitlyn I think they don't play AD's very much, I don't like her as a lane champ anymore"

wat

Agree...
No AD steroid. People in pro games play too passive and can't zone with her.

Not having an AD steroid is important in team fights, not in lane. And you can still harass anyone that goes for a last hit. Not saying she is good, but saying she is not good champion IN LANE is kind of ridiculous.

I've always thought she was the best AD in lane phase (passive lane phase). Her ability to zone out a lot of area with her traps, and ability to poke makes her one of the best AD in lane. Her team fight strength though is much much weaker than her other AD counter parts due to lack of steroids.
liftlift > tsm
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
January 05 2012 19:29 GMT
#1480
On January 06 2012 04:25 Shiv. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2012 04:22 obesechicken13 wrote:
On January 06 2012 04:12 Requizen wrote:
Oddone: "Everytime I see someone pick Caitlyn I think they don't play AD's very much, I don't like her as a lane champ anymore"

wat

Agree...
No AD steroid. People in pro games play too passive and can't zone with her.

Not having an AD steroid is important in team fights, not in lane. And you can still harass anyone that goes for a last hit. Not saying she is good, but saying she is not good champion IN LANE is kind of ridiculous.

Show nested quote +
On January 06 2012 04:22 wei2coolman wrote:
You'll actually be keeping up with your lane mates in gold, with runes + gp10 items!

wat.

True story, all the games I was playing with roaming AP shaco, I was usually 3rd place in gold amount in my team, which is not bad considering lack of actual farm.
liftlift > tsm
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