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Doctorbeat
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands13241 Posts
January 04 2012 21:43 GMT
#1341
On January 05 2012 06:37 Shiv. wrote:
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On January 05 2012 05:46 AwayFromLife wrote:
Whatever, I'm asking for a refund. Most annoying champ to play in the game.

Sorry, I'm sure everyone's free to have their own opinion on stuff, but if you say she is BAD in comparison to other ADs unless she gets fed early (what you have been saying), then you have no idea how to teamfight at all.
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On January 05 2012 05:59 Perplex wrote:
who beats tryndamere top in his current state? It feels impossible to touch him once he gets wriggles..

I feel like Riven and Panth beat him pretty easily, I have a feeling Rumble does too, but that's just based on gut instincts


Vayne is still one of my favourite AD's. I've also seen Snoopeh jungle Vayne in solo queue, does anyone know what kind of runes/masteries you would use for that?

And at least Vayne is still miles better than MF/Ezreal.
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starfries
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada3508 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-04 21:50:15
January 04 2012 21:46 GMT
#1342
On January 05 2012 05:53 Terranasaur wrote:
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On January 05 2012 05:51 JackDino wrote:
Ashe chasing better than vayne, what?


Dude. Running away from an Ashe is literally impossible. I mean, Vayne will just kill you, but you will never get away from an Ashe.

Don't forget Sivir. And you have to escape her whole team to get away.

On January 05 2012 06:43 Doctorbeat wrote:
And at least Vayne is still miles better than MF/Ezreal.

lol Vayne is miles better than everyone

re Trynd
for Irelia vs Trynd, I think the best you can reasonably expect is a tie? I've never been able to straight up win without outplaying him severely (meaning he was pretty bad)
DJ – do you like ramen, Savior? Savior – not really. Bisu – I eat it often. Flash – I’m a maniac! | Foxer Fighting!
unichan
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States4223 Posts
January 04 2012 22:04 GMT
#1343
On January 05 2012 06:29 mr_tolkien wrote:
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On January 05 2012 05:53 Terranasaur wrote:
On January 05 2012 05:51 JackDino wrote:
Ashe chasing better than vayne, what?


Dude. Running away from an Ashe is literally impossible. I mean, Vayne will just kill you, but you will never get away from an Ashe.

Udyr, mercs + bear stance (+ MS quints + MS 4% masteries). You run away (tested and approved).

damn if i ever see an ashe on the enemy team i'll make sure to run exactly this!! thx!!
:)
Sandster
Profile Joined November 2006
United States4054 Posts
January 04 2012 22:08 GMT
#1344
On January 05 2012 06:29 mr_tolkien wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2012 05:53 Terranasaur wrote:
On January 05 2012 05:51 JackDino wrote:
Ashe chasing better than vayne, what?


Dude. Running away from an Ashe is literally impossible. I mean, Vayne will just kill you, but you will never get away from an Ashe.

Udyr, mercs + bear stance (+ MS quints + MS 4% masteries). You run away (tested and approved).


Yeah, see Ashe on other team, pick Udyr. Never get within 500 range without flash.

When I'm Udyr there are few champions I hate more than Ashe.
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
January 04 2012 22:08 GMT
#1345
On January 05 2012 06:29 mr_tolkien wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2012 05:53 Terranasaur wrote:
On January 05 2012 05:51 JackDino wrote:
Ashe chasing better than vayne, what?


Dude. Running away from an Ashe is literally impossible. I mean, Vayne will just kill you, but you will never get away from an Ashe.

Udyr, mercs + bear stance (+ MS quints + MS 4% masteries). You run away (tested and approved).


It depends actually. If Ashe's Q is rank 1 escape is easy since you'll still have 444 movement speed if she hits you. If it's rank 5, you'll only be moving at 344. Similarly, if all Ashe has is boots her movement speed is only 350. But if she has boots 2 + PD she'll be zipping along at 423 movement speed.

I wouldn't say Ashe is a better chaser than Vayne since Vayne doesn't need to be in AA range to give chase, but if you let Ashe hit you late in the game getting away is almost entirely dependent on flashing over something, juking, or reaching your team before your health bar is gone.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
January 04 2012 22:13 GMT
#1346
I gotta say, I don't really enjoy playing Vayne. She has the kit of an assassin, not an AD carry and it just feels weird. But yeah, even though I suck with her if the game goes more than like 30 minutes it doesn't matter how badly you did earlier as Vayne because you can now carry your entire team on your back.
Sandster
Profile Joined November 2006
United States4054 Posts
January 04 2012 22:20 GMT
#1347
What are good picks against Rumble in lane? And what are some general tips on playing against him? The guy absolutely crushes me in lane every time I don't play a caster top.
De4ngus
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6533 Posts
January 04 2012 22:25 GMT
#1348
On January 05 2012 07:20 Sandster wrote:
What are good picks against Rumble in lane? And what are some general tips on playing against him? The guy absolutely crushes me in lane every time I don't play a caster top.

yorick riven and kennen are pretty good
GANDHISAUCE
deskscaress
Profile Joined May 2011
United States399 Posts
January 04 2012 22:26 GMT
#1349
honestly i don't think yorick or riven do well against rumble
those are definitely push lanes at best
would you ever miss it?
De4ngus
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6533 Posts
January 04 2012 22:33 GMT
#1350
this is coming from a rumble main but ok.

vs yorick and riven you have to get an advantage and allin around level 4-6 or else the lane is lost. also need to rune armor vs riven.

kennen is just retarded.
GANDHISAUCE
sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
January 04 2012 22:40 GMT
#1351
Interesting, on riot5 Urgot least played by far, also highest win/lose ratio....I guess only pros play te urgot
In Hungry Hungry Hippos there are no such constraints—one can constantly attempt to collect marbles with one’s hippo, limited only by one’s hippo-levering capabilities.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
January 04 2012 22:44 GMT
#1352
So does anyone still play Dominion? I'be been doing it a lot recently just because I needed a break from SR, and it's kinda frustrating. People just pick stupid strong 1v1 champs or bursty champions and it's next to impossible to assault a point because they'll just instagib you :\

Oh well, at least Riven wrecks face there. I can't seem to carry hard enough on Ezreal though Q.Q
It's your boy Guzma!
Terranasaur
Profile Joined May 2011
United States2085 Posts
January 04 2012 22:52 GMT
#1353
On January 05 2012 07:44 Requizen wrote:
So does anyone still play Dominion? I'be been doing it a lot recently just because I needed a break from SR, and it's kinda frustrating. People just pick stupid strong 1v1 champs or bursty champions and it's next to impossible to assault a point because they'll just instagib you :\

Oh well, at least Riven wrecks face there. I can't seem to carry hard enough on Ezreal though Q.Q


Ya. I play quite a bit of Dominion. I think its a lot of fun and, as far as I can tell, is the fastest way to grind IP.

Basically my strategy is to pick a mobile champ and back door. If someone sets up a Heimer or a Shaco at a Turret, there is no way you're ever going to take it, so just go capture another point.

Riven wrecks like crazy, but I've never seen an Ez do well. Alistair is strong. Rammus is king. Xin is great. Panth. TF. Anyone who can hop around the map and capture. If you want a ranged AD try Twitch. Stealth into the circle and pop out anywhere.
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sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
January 04 2012 23:00 GMT
#1354
Teemo is superstrong dominon
In Hungry Hungry Hippos there are no such constraints—one can constantly attempt to collect marbles with one’s hippo, limited only by one’s hippo-levering capabilities.
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-04 23:03:40
January 04 2012 23:03 GMT
#1355
I pretty much hate dominion, impossible to carry that mode except by leading people (read: yelling at them) constantly, you can't just win your lane and rape the rest of the map. Total lack of snowballing nerfs the shit out of the better player because it means you don't impact engagements unless you're there.
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17294 Posts
January 04 2012 23:04 GMT
#1356
Irelia wins vs Trynd when your jungle camps trynd 24/7 for first 10 minutes.

Works for 99% of top lane matchups.
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starfries
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada3508 Posts
January 04 2012 23:05 GMT
#1357
On January 05 2012 07:52 Terranasaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2012 07:44 Requizen wrote:
So does anyone still play Dominion? I'be been doing it a lot recently just because I needed a break from SR, and it's kinda frustrating. People just pick stupid strong 1v1 champs or bursty champions and it's next to impossible to assault a point because they'll just instagib you :\

Oh well, at least Riven wrecks face there. I can't seem to carry hard enough on Ezreal though Q.Q


Ya. I play quite a bit of Dominion. I think its a lot of fun and, as far as I can tell, is the fastest way to grind IP.

Basically my strategy is to pick a mobile champ and back door. If someone sets up a Heimer or a Shaco at a Turret, there is no way you're ever going to take it, so just go capture another point.

Riven wrecks like crazy, but I've never seen an Ez do well. Alistair is strong. Rammus is king. Xin is great. Panth. TF. Anyone who can hop around the map and capture. If you want a ranged AD try Twitch. Stealth into the circle and pop out anywhere.

I like Dominion when I want my first win bonus. It doesn't take long, win or lose so you get it faster. It really is fun but more mindless than SR (or maybe I just don't understand the strategy).

I think late game heroes work well too, since you get items so fast.
DJ – do you like ramen, Savior? Savior – not really. Bisu – I eat it often. Flash – I’m a maniac! | Foxer Fighting!
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
January 04 2012 23:05 GMT
#1358
On January 05 2012 08:00 sob3k wrote:
Teemo is superstrong dominon

Yeah, I see Teemos do good. Quick, hit and run, and dem shrooms. Plus, stealth at a turret and people will often forget about you until they try to cap, it's pretty funny.
It's your boy Guzma!
HeroHenry
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1723 Posts
January 04 2012 23:06 GMT
#1359
Graves is pretty strong in dominion too
Ayush_SCtoss
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
India3051 Posts
January 04 2012 23:06 GMT
#1360
Wat? AP ez is super strong in dominion. This is coming from someone who has only played dominion with Ez. It is also fun seeing your ult melt faces across the map lol
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