On January 05 2012 09:06 sob3k wrote: So what's the community's consensus about Volibear now? He seemed brutal at launch, then he got a bit of a nerf, and I rarely see him now. I've faced a few that got fed and became absolute monsters, but also alot of total fails.
OP/UP/? whats his deal?
I love Volibear and I think he's one of the coolest champions in the game, but he kinda sucks. He's completely outclassed. His jungle clear is slow (comparably), and why would you use Volibear in solo top when you can used Singed? Singed has a better fling, a better slow, can increase all his stats, and is faster and tanks more damage.
Even if you just play him as a tank Volibear sucks, because he has no ability or passive to increase his resistances, no shield, and his passive is easily countered by just Igniting him. His only CCs are a fling that can be countered by just slowing or snaring/stunning him (or you know, just running in the opposite direction), and a slow that requires you to get into melee range to use. And then Riot decided to nerf his W for some reason (probably to keep it in line with the useless %HP quints).
People cried about his kit because his W is a "built in Garen ult," "built in Jax ult," and he has a fling and an AoE slow that has poor range and his ult has the ability to "ace entire teams," but that's only because people are stupid and would bunch up and try to wail on him.
tl;dr Volibear sucks but is great for trolling bads because they bunch up and let him auto them so his ult wears them down and he can use his execution strike.
On January 05 2012 09:06 sob3k wrote: So what's the community's consensus about Volibear now? He seemed brutal at launch, then he got a bit of a nerf, and I rarely see him now. I've faced a few that got fed and became absolute monsters, but also alot of total fails.
OP/UP/? whats his deal?
I love Volibear and I think he's one of the coolest champions in the game, but he kinda sucks. He's completely outclassed. His jungle clear is slow (comparably), and why would you use Volibear in solo top when you can used Singed? Singed has a better fling, a better slow, can increase all his stats, and is faster and tanks more damage.
Even if you just play him as a tank Volibear sucks, because he has no ability or passive to increase his resistances, no shield, and his passive is easily countered by just Igniting him. His only CCs are a fling that can be countered by just slowing or snaring/stunning him (or you know, just running in the opposite direction), and a slow that requires you to get into melee range to use. And then Riot decided to nerf his W for some reason (probably to keep it in line with the useless %HP quints).
People cried about his kit because his W is a "built in Garen ult," "built in Jax ult," and he has a fling and an AoE slow that has poor range and his ult has the ability to "ace entire teams," but that's only because people are stupid and would bunch up and try to wail on him.
tl;dr Volibear sucks but is great for trolling bads because they bunch up and let him auto them so his ult wears them down and he can use his execution strike.
I don't think he's as bad as you make him out to be. It's not so easy to avoid his ult by simply spreading out seeing how his ulti has a respectable search range. Even if you're only hitting one person with your ulti it's a bonus 155 damage on every hit, which synergies really well with his W, even more so if you get Wit's End. He can be kited, that's true, but the built-in 40% movespeed on his Q helps to prevent some kiting. Despite the nerfs, his W still hits pretty hard and is good harass in lane+a decent execution move which can be comparable to Lee Sin's second Q hit.
I think Volibear's a pretty crappy jungler, but can be good in lane and isn't terrible in the bruiser role. TBH he seems a bit underwhelming atm, but that might be just 'cause he's still relatively new and people aren't playing him much at all. I do agree that I'd rather have singed tho.
On January 05 2012 11:40 Vei wrote: wait as karth is it not frowned upon if you Q minions? i try to strongly prefer meleeing them to conserve mana for harass but then ugh
URGH
...I dont know that you shouldn't Q them... You get mana back when you kill shit from defile passive so if you last hit with it thats all good... Karthus auto is fuckign stupid
On January 05 2012 11:40 Vei wrote: wait as karth is it not frowned upon if you Q minions? i try to strongly prefer meleeing them to conserve mana for harass but then ugh
URGH
Karthus has a good number of bad matchups where he can get killed very easily. In those matchups, you gotta just farm with max range Qs which is really good for letting you keep up in cs.Using Q to farm is fine. Using Q to harass and farm is even better.
On January 05 2012 11:40 Vei wrote: wait as karth is it not frowned upon if you Q minions? i try to strongly prefer meleeing them to conserve mana for harass but then ugh
URGH
It's pretty standard to get most of your farm with Q.
When I first started playing I thought Karthus' Q actually was his auto attack and thought he was mad broken because of it. I don't think I've ever seen him auto attack before.
edit: poor Oddone built frozen mallet on Pantheon. 0 damage panth ):
On January 05 2012 12:40 Cloud9157 wrote: Question: Do you always get a death whenever you DC? No one killed me, just kinda bothers me.
No...
It shows a death for whatever reason.
Then your character died. Either to a champion, minions, or a tower. When you d/c it'll attempt to back for your character and even run straight towards fountain but when you first start losing internet connection and the game hasn't realized you've DC'd you'll just stand still. You don't always die but if you're like in the middle of the lane you almost certainly will die to something before the game realizes you're gone and tries to return you to fountain.
On January 05 2012 12:40 Cloud9157 wrote: Question: Do you always get a death whenever you DC? No one killed me, just kinda bothers me.
No...
It shows a death for whatever reason.
Because if you disconnect there's like a minute gap between when you actually disconnect and when you recall back to the summoner's circle. If your enemies fight you in the mean time, you die. Pretty simple.
EPT
