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Ferrose
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States11378 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-05 02:36:36
January 05 2012 02:25 GMT
#1381
On January 05 2012 09:06 sob3k wrote:
So what's the community's consensus about Volibear now? He seemed brutal at launch, then he got a bit of a nerf, and I rarely see him now. I've faced a few that got fed and became absolute monsters, but also alot of total fails.

OP/UP/? whats his deal?


I love Volibear and I think he's one of the coolest champions in the game, but he kinda sucks. He's completely outclassed. His jungle clear is slow (comparably), and why would you use Volibear in solo top when you can used Singed? Singed has a better fling, a better slow, can increase all his stats, and is faster and tanks more damage.

Even if you just play him as a tank Volibear sucks, because he has no ability or passive to increase his resistances, no shield, and his passive is easily countered by just Igniting him. His only CCs are a fling that can be countered by just slowing or snaring/stunning him (or you know, just running in the opposite direction), and a slow that requires you to get into melee range to use. And then Riot decided to nerf his W for some reason (probably to keep it in line with the useless %HP quints).

People cried about his kit because his W is a "built in Garen ult," "built in Jax ult," and he has a fling and an AoE slow that has poor range and his ult has the ability to "ace entire teams," but that's only because people are stupid and would bunch up and try to wail on him.

tl;dr Volibear sucks but is great for trolling bads because they bunch up and let him auto them so his ult wears them down and he can use his execution strike.

Edit:
@113candlemagic Office lady by day, lonely woman at night. | Official lolicon of thread 94273
Vei
Profile Joined March 2010
United States2845 Posts
January 05 2012 02:40 GMT
#1382
wait as karth is it not frowned upon if you Q minions? i try to strongly prefer meleeing them to conserve mana for harass but then ugh

URGH
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Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
January 05 2012 02:51 GMT
#1383
On January 05 2012 11:25 Ferrose wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2012 09:06 sob3k wrote:
So what's the community's consensus about Volibear now? He seemed brutal at launch, then he got a bit of a nerf, and I rarely see him now. I've faced a few that got fed and became absolute monsters, but also alot of total fails.

OP/UP/? whats his deal?


I love Volibear and I think he's one of the coolest champions in the game, but he kinda sucks. He's completely outclassed. His jungle clear is slow (comparably), and why would you use Volibear in solo top when you can used Singed? Singed has a better fling, a better slow, can increase all his stats, and is faster and tanks more damage.

Even if you just play him as a tank Volibear sucks, because he has no ability or passive to increase his resistances, no shield, and his passive is easily countered by just Igniting him. His only CCs are a fling that can be countered by just slowing or snaring/stunning him (or you know, just running in the opposite direction), and a slow that requires you to get into melee range to use. And then Riot decided to nerf his W for some reason (probably to keep it in line with the useless %HP quints).

People cried about his kit because his W is a "built in Garen ult," "built in Jax ult," and he has a fling and an AoE slow that has poor range and his ult has the ability to "ace entire teams," but that's only because people are stupid and would bunch up and try to wail on him.

tl;dr Volibear sucks but is great for trolling bads because they bunch up and let him auto them so his ult wears them down and he can use his execution strike.

Edit: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LpC1DT7eYr4

I don't think he's as bad as you make him out to be. It's not so easy to avoid his ult by simply spreading out seeing how his ulti has a respectable search range. Even if you're only hitting one person with your ulti it's a bonus 155 damage on every hit, which synergies really well with his W, even more so if you get Wit's End. He can be kited, that's true, but the built-in 40% movespeed on his Q helps to prevent some kiting. Despite the nerfs, his W still hits pretty hard and is good harass in lane+a decent execution move which can be comparable to Lee Sin's second Q hit.

I think Volibear's a pretty crappy jungler, but can be good in lane and isn't terrible in the bruiser role. TBH he seems a bit underwhelming atm, but that might be just 'cause he's still relatively new and people aren't playing him much at all. I do agree that I'd rather have singed tho.
GARO
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States2255 Posts
January 05 2012 02:53 GMT
#1384
Shyvana is so fucking fast that in the time it takes me to finish a gank, my half of the jungle is gone already. Gay.
CeriseCherries
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
6170 Posts
January 05 2012 03:14 GMT
#1385
On January 05 2012 11:40 Vei wrote:
wait as karth is it not frowned upon if you Q minions? i try to strongly prefer meleeing them to conserve mana for harass but then ugh

URGH


...I dont know that you shouldn't Q them... You get mana back when you kill shit from defile passive so if you last hit with it thats all good... Karthus auto is fuckign stupid
Remember, no matter where you go, there you are.
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-05 03:55:14
January 05 2012 03:17 GMT
#1386
On January 05 2012 11:40 Vei wrote:
wait as karth is it not frowned upon if you Q minions? i try to strongly prefer meleeing them to conserve mana for harass but then ugh

URGH

Karthus has a good number of bad matchups where he can get killed very easily. In those matchups, you gotta just farm with max range Qs which is really good for letting you keep up in cs.Using Q to farm is fine. Using Q to harass and farm is even better.
Abenson
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada4122 Posts
January 05 2012 03:37 GMT
#1387
Stream alert:
Chrispy is currently playing on Saint/Regi's stream.
Cloud9157
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2968 Posts
January 05 2012 03:40 GMT
#1388
Omg, Normals are so sad.

Legendary Ken 14/0/9. Not one person touched me.

Question: Do you always get a death whenever you DC? No one killed me, just kinda bothers me.
"Are you absolutely sure that armor only affects the health portion of a protoss army??? That doesn't sound right to me. source?" -Some idiot
Ferrose
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States11378 Posts
January 05 2012 03:43 GMT
#1389
What do you guys think of this Ahri cosplay (maybe NSFW)?

http://blog.naver.com/kimtaisik/60151344837
@113candlemagic Office lady by day, lonely woman at night. | Official lolicon of thread 94273
Ryalnos
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1946 Posts
January 05 2012 03:50 GMT
#1390
On January 05 2012 12:37 Abenson wrote:
Stream alert:
Chrispy is currently playing on Saint/Regi's stream.


As a 8/1/11 GP.
zer0das
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States8519 Posts
January 05 2012 04:05 GMT
#1391
On January 05 2012 12:43 Ferrose wrote:
What do you guys think of this Ahri cosplay (maybe NSFW)?

http://blog.naver.com/kimtaisik/60151344837


It makes me hate Riot for making the last half dozen or so champions. >_>
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17294 Posts
January 05 2012 04:05 GMT
#1392
On January 05 2012 12:40 Cloud9157 wrote:
Question: Do you always get a death whenever you DC? No one killed me, just kinda bothers me.

No...
twitch.tv/cratonz
Alzadar
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada5009 Posts
January 05 2012 04:32 GMT
#1393
Why do all of the boots face the left except Mercury's Treads? It's kind of annoying now that I've noticed.
I am the Town Medic.
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17294 Posts
January 05 2012 04:34 GMT
#1394
On January 05 2012 11:40 Vei wrote:
wait as karth is it not frowned upon if you Q minions? i try to strongly prefer meleeing them to conserve mana for harass but then ugh

URGH

It's pretty standard to get most of your farm with Q.
twitch.tv/cratonz
Alzadar
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada5009 Posts
January 05 2012 04:37 GMT
#1395
Make Waste pretty much is Karthus' auto attack.
I am the Town Medic.
Cloud9157
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2968 Posts
January 05 2012 04:56 GMT
#1396
On January 05 2012 13:05 Craton wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2012 12:40 Cloud9157 wrote:
Question: Do you always get a death whenever you DC? No one killed me, just kinda bothers me.

No...


It shows a death for whatever reason.
"Are you absolutely sure that armor only affects the health portion of a protoss army??? That doesn't sound right to me. source?" -Some idiot
koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-05 04:59:23
January 05 2012 04:56 GMT
#1397
When I first started playing I thought Karthus' Q actually was his auto attack and thought he was mad broken because of it. I don't think I've ever seen him auto attack before.

edit: poor Oddone built frozen mallet on Pantheon. 0 damage panth ):
mjf
Profile Joined April 2010
United States436 Posts
January 05 2012 05:02 GMT
#1398
yeah, the first time i saw karthus autoattack, i didn't know what it was.
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
January 05 2012 05:07 GMT
#1399
On January 05 2012 13:56 Cloud9157 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2012 13:05 Craton wrote:
On January 05 2012 12:40 Cloud9157 wrote:
Question: Do you always get a death whenever you DC? No one killed me, just kinda bothers me.

No...


It shows a death for whatever reason.


Then your character died. Either to a champion, minions, or a tower. When you d/c it'll attempt to back for your character and even run straight towards fountain but when you first start losing internet connection and the game hasn't realized you've DC'd you'll just stand still. You don't always die but if you're like in the middle of the lane you almost certainly will die to something before the game realizes you're gone and tries to return you to fountain.
zer0das
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States8519 Posts
January 05 2012 05:07 GMT
#1400
On January 05 2012 13:56 Cloud9157 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2012 13:05 Craton wrote:
On January 05 2012 12:40 Cloud9157 wrote:
Question: Do you always get a death whenever you DC? No one killed me, just kinda bothers me.

No...


It shows a death for whatever reason.


Because if you disconnect there's like a minute gap between when you actually disconnect and when you recall back to the summoner's circle. If your enemies fight you in the mean time, you die. Pretty simple.
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