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[Patch 1.0.0.131: Viktor] General Discussion - Page 189

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koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
January 13 2012 04:22 GMT
#3761
Man, the new champ looks really fucking cool.
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17274 Posts
January 13 2012 04:22 GMT
#3762
New champ sounds like Amumu
twitch.tv/cratonz
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
January 13 2012 04:23 GMT
#3763
On January 13 2012 13:05 Brees wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2012 12:49 Requizen wrote:
On January 13 2012 12:44 Brees wrote:
On January 13 2012 12:41 Requizen wrote:
On January 13 2012 12:28 Brees wrote:
its fun to hit people with the lazer but then they gets boots 1

Just get used to it's movement and range? It's like any other high damage skillshot.


I am used to its movement and range, thats why i dodge it everytime i have boots 1

people with downs might not be as lucky

Meh, I feel the same about Nevermove, Brand's Q, Morg's Q, and Xerath's Q. I never get hit by them if I'm paying attention in the slightest. Does that make those bad abilities or bad champions?

Not saying Viktor is on that level, but calling him bad because a skillshot is easy-ish to avoid is a bit hasty.


brand's Q is the only one thats even remotely similar and it still has a faster projectile. morg's Q is a BIND, a really long cc. brand's q is a HUGE stun if it hits. nevermove is a LONG aoe stun. xerath's q is an insanely fast projectile if you cant see him doing the animation from afar.

difference being, you are comparing it to amazing reward abilities when it only does damage.

Fair, I agree that the skill/reward ratio is a bit off. Maybe it's a bit different in higher ELO, but I've never really had a problem with it.
It's your boy Guzma!
Magus
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada450 Posts
January 13 2012 04:23 GMT
#3764
On January 13 2012 13:16 whatsupchan wrote:
new champs q w and r are the same as mumus q w and r

And the passive is Ashe's Q, but no mana cost. =\
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
January 13 2012 04:24 GMT
#3765
WAIT. I GOT IT.

Riot wanted everyone to stop bitching about lee sin, so they created another champ that has a massive aoe slow. That way, if there is 2 of them, one of them CANT be overpowered.


I AM A GENIUS.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
dignity
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada908 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-13 04:28:00
January 13 2012 04:27 GMT
#3766
That sounds like exactly something they would do, sadly.. Don't get me wrong, I love a lot of riots policies, just their decision making has proven to be a bit wonky.
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
January 13 2012 04:27 GMT
#3767
On January 13 2012 13:24 Two_DoWn wrote:
WAIT. I GOT IT.

Riot wanted everyone to stop bitching about lee sin, so they created another champ that has a massive aoe slow. That way, if there is 2 of them, one of them CANT be overpowered.


I AM A GENIUS.


New champ doesn't have AoE slow, she has an auto attack slow, and a AoE ability that does more damamge on units that are slowed by her auto attack.
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
January 13 2012 04:31 GMT
#3768
On January 13 2012 13:27 iCanada wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2012 13:24 Two_DoWn wrote:
WAIT. I GOT IT.

Riot wanted everyone to stop bitching about lee sin, so they created another champ that has a massive aoe slow. That way, if there is 2 of them, one of them CANT be overpowered.


I AM A GENIUS.


New champ doesn't have AoE slow, she has an auto attack slow, and a AoE ability that does more damamge on units that are slowed by her auto attack.

The way I read it, her ult applies permafrost in an aoe after someone gets hit, then you e and immobilize everyone. You aint gettin away from this bitch at ALL.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
Kaneh
Profile Joined April 2009
Canada737 Posts
January 13 2012 04:36 GMT
#3769
I wonder if Q splashes a bit as well.
Abenson
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada4122 Posts
January 13 2012 04:40 GMT
#3770
The champ is
a) female
b) well endowed

Must be OP.

(Past op champs: Akali, MF, Sona... etc.)
CeriseCherries
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
6170 Posts
January 13 2012 04:44 GMT
#3771
Nunu's sister?

-.- well geez I agree.. this is really sounding a lot like amumu
Remember, no matter where you go, there you are.
Bladeorade
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1898 Posts
January 13 2012 04:47 GMT
#3772
1. Buy new champ
2. Buy Rylais for Super Slow and for scaling
3. Enemies move at a crawl
4. Profit

Imagine a New Champ/Ashe/Mumu/Galio/Nunu team

Trololol
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
January 13 2012 04:49 GMT
#3773
has anyone been trying viktor top? I haven't played him but i haven't seem him do very much mid, and it seems to me that might be because his spells are much better at close range. Q especially seems designed only to work at melee range since that's the only way you can actually get something from the shield with the slow projectile speed.
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
Brees
Profile Joined January 2010
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
January 13 2012 04:49 GMT
#3774
there is a very important difference, its amumu with tits

its part of riots plan to powercreep everything and replace it with tits to make money
Brees on in
tobi9999
Profile Joined April 2009
United States1966 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-13 04:50:57
January 13 2012 04:50 GMT
#3775
what the fk.

I can't believe it

Ashe Sona bot is #1 in ranked solo queue.

2 games in a row, stand in bush at 1:30, they facecheck power chord + crit + volley= insta kill on anyone.

Then just proceed to farm and laugh as you support your jungler ganks with Ashe ult + Sona ult.

It doesn't even matter if they have cleanse, ECA CD < Cleanse CD.

would be 2-0 with it, if one of the games wasn't a 3v5 where 2 people DC'd when we were 10 kills up in the middle of the game t_T
EDIT: I'm depressed people actually fall for this shit, it makes me so sad that I'm the same ELO as these retards. I have no idea how they got past 1200 :/ let alone 1500
"tobi is ur iq 9999? cuz i think it might be u so smart wowowow." -Artosis
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
January 13 2012 04:51 GMT
#3776
On January 13 2012 13:49 UniversalSnip wrote:
has anyone been trying viktor top? I haven't played him but i haven't seem him do very much mid, and it seems to me that might be because his spells are much better at close range. Q especially seems designed only to work at melee range since that's the only way you can actually get something from the shield with the slow projectile speed.


I've done it a couple of times. I max Q instead of E in that case, and it seems to do a good amount of damage. But him not doing much in mid is still completely false... But hey, if everyone wants to keep thinking he's underpowered, it's fine by me!
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RogerX
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
New Zealand3180 Posts
January 13 2012 04:53 GMT
#3777
I don't understand why majority of people I met says Viktor is weak...

His E is seriously amazing. With a really good CC for teamfights.
But yeah we've probably discussed this, just giving my opinons.
Stick it up. take it up. step aside and see the world
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
January 13 2012 04:54 GMT
#3778
On January 13 2012 13:49 Brees wrote:
there is a very important difference, its amumu with tits

its part of riots plan to powercreep everything and replace it with tits to make money

You say that, but they replaced the biggest tits in the game with graves
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
Brees
Profile Joined January 2010
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
January 13 2012 04:56 GMT
#3779
On January 13 2012 13:54 Two_DoWn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2012 13:49 Brees wrote:
there is a very important difference, its amumu with tits

its part of riots plan to powercreep everything and replace it with tits to make money

You say that, but they replaced the biggest tits in the game with graves


the want for a real ad male carry was as strong as tits if I recall. Dont know why.
Brees on in
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
January 13 2012 04:57 GMT
#3780
On January 13 2012 13:51 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2012 13:49 UniversalSnip wrote:
has anyone been trying viktor top? I haven't played him but i haven't seem him do very much mid, and it seems to me that might be because his spells are much better at close range. Q especially seems designed only to work at melee range since that's the only way you can actually get something from the shield with the slow projectile speed.


I've done it a couple of times. I max Q instead of E in that case, and it seems to do a good amount of damage. But him not doing much in mid is still completely false... But hey, if everyone wants to keep thinking he's underpowered, it's fine by me!


Don't put words in my mouth. I told you what I'd seen and you're saying I didn't see it? You seem to have jumped from me relating my experiences to me making an argument about whether he's good or not, or something.
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
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