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tobi9999
Profile Joined April 2009
United States1966 Posts
January 08 2012 04:37 GMT
#2401
why would you even go to Mobafire ever? -_-

you can learn more from year-old solomid guides
"tobi is ur iq 9999? cuz i think it might be u so smart wowowow." -Artosis
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
January 08 2012 04:37 GMT
#2402
On January 08 2012 13:26 starfries wrote:
Holy balls, scariest game of my life.


Grabbed a bush as Blitz just to check before I got near for a ward once. Got a whole christmas tree with a sinister grin and saplings pulled to me. Was routine checking, didn't expect anything, so I litterally jumped on my chair.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
anmolsinghmzn2009
Profile Joined June 2011
India1783 Posts
January 08 2012 04:49 GMT
#2403
On January 08 2012 13:37 Alaric wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2012 13:26 starfries wrote:
Holy balls, scariest game of my life.


Grabbed a bush as Blitz just to check before I got near for a ward once. Got a whole christmas tree with a sinister grin and saplings pulled to me. Was routine checking, didn't expect anything, so I litterally jumped on my chair.


I remember the first time I was ganked by a fiddle with his ulti when I started playing league. Shit was scary yo.
Dunk first. Ask questions while dunking.
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
January 08 2012 04:55 GMT
#2404
On January 08 2012 12:30 RogerX wrote:
Hope you guys don't mind; but I wanna see the range of people in this forum of players who are above 1500 ELO (Gold, nearly) or below (Silver, bronze) orr if you don't play ranked at all

Just want to see how competitive you guys are. Hm, Loco?

POLL!


1500 elo actually tells you next to nothing. The solo q ladder breaks down to this:

sub 1200- You dont know how to farm minions and/or champions

1200-1500- You dont know how late game works, or you still dont know how to farm minions or champions

1500-1800- You have the basics down. You can farm well, and you know how to play a game out late and where to be.

1800-2200- You have 2-3 champs that you know all the ins and outs of in terms of being able to come out ahead in little trades, but you still make a few bad trades to worse players & one or two bad plays a game.

2200+ You never make bad trades to worse players, and given any semblance of a lead against bad players you can close it out. You can also get quick leads by just being BETTER than everyone in the game (see SV at -2 elo, jiji on any smurf in the 1500s).

So ya. 1500 isnt any good as a cutoff because it really isnt a measure of skill, just basic knowledge and having decent mechanics.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
starfries
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada3508 Posts
January 08 2012 05:02 GMT
#2405
On January 08 2012 13:49 anmolsinghmzn2009 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2012 13:37 Alaric wrote:
On January 08 2012 13:26 starfries wrote:
Holy balls, scariest game of my life.


Grabbed a bush as Blitz just to check before I got near for a ward once. Got a whole christmas tree with a sinister grin and saplings pulled to me. Was routine checking, didn't expect anything, so I litterally jumped on my chair.


I remember the first time I was ganked by a fiddle with his ulti when I started playing league. Shit was scary yo.

The worst for me was playing against Eve. They ALWAYS wait until the last minute. I'm recalling in a bush and as the animation finishes up I breathe a sigh of relief because I think I'm safe, when BAM.

Or when I'm recalling and that Destiny debuff appears over my head, and all I can think is "please don't be me.. please don't be me"
DJ – do you like ramen, Savior? Savior – not really. Bisu – I eat it often. Flash – I’m a maniac! | Foxer Fighting!
anmolsinghmzn2009
Profile Joined June 2011
India1783 Posts
January 08 2012 05:06 GMT
#2406
On January 08 2012 14:02 starfries wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2012 13:49 anmolsinghmzn2009 wrote:
On January 08 2012 13:37 Alaric wrote:
On January 08 2012 13:26 starfries wrote:
Holy balls, scariest game of my life.


Grabbed a bush as Blitz just to check before I got near for a ward once. Got a whole christmas tree with a sinister grin and saplings pulled to me. Was routine checking, didn't expect anything, so I litterally jumped on my chair.


I remember the first time I was ganked by a fiddle with his ulti when I started playing league. Shit was scary yo.

The worst for me was playing against Eve. They ALWAYS wait until the last minute. I'm recalling in a bush and as the animation finishes up I breathe a sigh of relief because I think I'm safe, when BAM.

Or when I'm recalling and that Destiny debuff appears over my head, and all I can think is "please don't be me.. please don't be me"


The absolute worst even now is when I'm playing with a few friends and their nocturne ults and we all go 'oh shit!!' at the same time. XD
Dunk first. Ask questions while dunking.
SnK-Arcbound
Profile Joined March 2005
United States4423 Posts
January 08 2012 05:11 GMT
#2407
On January 08 2012 13:55 Two_DoWn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2012 12:30 RogerX wrote:
Hope you guys don't mind; but I wanna see the range of people in this forum of players who are above 1500 ELO (Gold, nearly) or below (Silver, bronze) orr if you don't play ranked at all

Just want to see how competitive you guys are. Hm, Loco?

POLL!


1500 elo actually tells you next to nothing. The solo q ladder breaks down to this:

sub 1200- You dont know how to farm minions and/or champions

1200-1500- You dont know how late game works, or you still dont know how to farm minions or champions

1500-1800- You have the basics down. You can farm well, and you know how to play a game out late and where to be.

1800-2200- You have 2-3 champs that you know all the ins and outs of in terms of being able to come out ahead in little trades, but you still make a few bad trades to worse players & one or two bad plays a game.

2200+ You never make bad trades to worse players, and given any semblance of a lead against bad players you can close it out. You can also get quick leads by just being BETTER than everyone in the game (see SV at -2 elo, jiji on any smurf in the 1500s).

So ya. 1500 isnt any good as a cutoff because it really isnt a measure of skill, just basic knowledge and having decent mechanics.

You'd be surprised about the people who play around 1700-1900...
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
January 08 2012 05:15 GMT
#2408
On January 08 2012 14:11 SnK-Arcbound wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2012 13:55 Two_DoWn wrote:
On January 08 2012 12:30 RogerX wrote:
Hope you guys don't mind; but I wanna see the range of people in this forum of players who are above 1500 ELO (Gold, nearly) or below (Silver, bronze) orr if you don't play ranked at all

Just want to see how competitive you guys are. Hm, Loco?

POLL!


1500 elo actually tells you next to nothing. The solo q ladder breaks down to this:

sub 1200- You dont know how to farm minions and/or champions

1200-1500- You dont know how late game works, or you still dont know how to farm minions or champions

1500-1800- You have the basics down. You can farm well, and you know how to play a game out late and where to be.

1800-2200- You have 2-3 champs that you know all the ins and outs of in terms of being able to come out ahead in little trades, but you still make a few bad trades to worse players & one or two bad plays a game.

2200+ You never make bad trades to worse players, and given any semblance of a lead against bad players you can close it out. You can also get quick leads by just being BETTER than everyone in the game (see SV at -2 elo, jiji on any smurf in the 1500s).

So ya. 1500 isnt any good as a cutoff because it really isnt a measure of skill, just basic knowledge and having decent mechanics.

You'd be surprised about the people who play around 1700-1900...

Well, speaking in generalities. Obviously people have bad games/can literally only play one hero
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
Hidden_MotiveS
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada2562 Posts
January 08 2012 05:17 GMT
#2409
On January 08 2012 13:49 anmolsinghmzn2009 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2012 13:37 Alaric wrote:
On January 08 2012 13:26 starfries wrote:
Holy balls, scariest game of my life.


Grabbed a bush as Blitz just to check before I got near for a ward once. Got a whole christmas tree with a sinister grin and saplings pulled to me. Was routine checking, didn't expect anything, so I litterally jumped on my chair.


I remember the first time I was ganked by a fiddle with his ulti when I started playing league. Shit was scary yo.

I was once chased by this hammer guy who jumped at me, stunned me, and always slowed me with his attacks. Fucking jax!
Brees
Profile Joined January 2010
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
January 08 2012 05:18 GMT
#2410
On January 08 2012 14:11 SnK-Arcbound wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2012 13:55 Two_DoWn wrote:
On January 08 2012 12:30 RogerX wrote:
Hope you guys don't mind; but I wanna see the range of people in this forum of players who are above 1500 ELO (Gold, nearly) or below (Silver, bronze) orr if you don't play ranked at all

Just want to see how competitive you guys are. Hm, Loco?

POLL!


1500 elo actually tells you next to nothing. The solo q ladder breaks down to this:

sub 1200- you've played fewer then 20 games

1200-1500- you'ved played 20-50 games

1500-1800- you've played 50-200 games

1800-2200- you've played 200-400 games

2200+ you've played 400+ games

So ya. 1500 isnt any good as a cutoff because it really isnt a measure of skill, just basic knowledge and having decent mechanics.

You'd be surprised about the people who play around 1700-1900...



fixed
Brees on in
tobi9999
Profile Joined April 2009
United States1966 Posts
January 08 2012 05:23 GMT
#2411
On January 08 2012 13:55 Two_DoWn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2012 12:30 RogerX wrote:
Hope you guys don't mind; but I wanna see the range of people in this forum of players who are above 1500 ELO (Gold, nearly) or below (Silver, bronze) orr if you don't play ranked at all

Just want to see how competitive you guys are. Hm, Loco?

POLL!


1500 elo actually tells you next to nothing. The solo q ladder breaks down to this:

sub 1200- You dont know how to farm minions and/or champions

1200-1500- You dont know how late game works, or you still dont know how to farm minions or champions

1500-1800- You have the basics down. You can farm well, and you know how to play a game out late and where to be.

1800-2200- You have 2-3 champs that you know all the ins and outs of in terms of being able to come out ahead in little trades, but you still make a few bad trades to worse players & one or two bad plays a game.

2200+ You never make bad trades to worse players, and given any semblance of a lead against bad players you can close it out. You can also get quick leads by just being BETTER than everyone in the game (see SV at -2 elo, jiji on any smurf in the 1500s).

So ya. 1500 isnt any good as a cutoff because it really isnt a measure of skill, just basic knowledge and having decent mechanics.


sub 1200- probably playing under 10 FPS. you need to get a better computer, better mouse, or actually start caring about ELO. You belong here if you cannot get out. This is not ELO hell

1200-1500 - you don't know/aren't good at all roles. You need to stop intentionally feeding and running into turrets for stress relief every 5 games. some people are very good in this ELO and don't play enough games as well. The most common "ELO hell" because of the vast disparity in skill between players.

1500-1800 - you are likely just a 1200-1500 who tryhards too often (not saying it's a bad thing)

1800-2200 - you are a god and can carry people, but get too frustrated after losing when you were raping everyone. Then start sucking like everyone else

2200+ - you are either a progamer, play 6+ hours a day on average, played sleeper OP champions that were never banned, or just one of the 1800-2200's who got really lucky.

BTW, I just made up BS, as I've never played above 1650~. I just don't think ELO shows skill until you're platinum. I've seen 1800 ELO players in normal that honestly just suck balls (in my opinion anyways).
"tobi is ur iq 9999? cuz i think it might be u so smart wowowow." -Artosis
Parnage
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States7414 Posts
January 08 2012 05:31 GMT
#2412
I fall under the "never enough ranked games" I keep telling myself I'll play more ranked but then my friends are on and I am like "okay... I'll play with you guys instead!" and so the cycle continues. Someday though, someday I'll get around to actually playing more ranked so I can be cool like everyone else.
-orb- Fan. Live the Nal_rA dream. || Yordles are cool.
Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
January 08 2012 05:41 GMT
#2413
I have a friend who is 1500, and got there playing one champ. Played normals with him and he got absolutely rolled by everybody when he wasn't wukong. Being bossmode at one champion doesn't mean anything imo, because if you don't get it, you feed like a champ and generally need to get carried.
Porouscloud - NA LoL
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-08 05:47:44
January 08 2012 05:41 GMT
#2414
On January 08 2012 14:31 Parnage wrote:
I fall under the "never enough ranked games" I keep telling myself I'll play more ranked but then my friends are on and I am like "okay... I'll play with you guys instead!" and so the cycle continues. Someday though, someday I'll get around to actually playing more ranked so I can be cool like everyone else.

The one thing that ranked (hopefully) teaches is how to tighten up your play if you actually want to win. Its one of those things where no matter how hard you think you tryhard in normals, you never really understand the true meaning of tryhard till you are trying to break a 5 game losing streak.

Of course, as soon as you catch yourself doing that and STILL losing, you have a shot at elo enlightenment: when winning and losing does not matter, only the ability to play whatever the fuck you want and shit on tryharders faces can make you truly happy.

However, it takes many cycles of winning and losing streaks for elo enlightenment to occur. For some it is near instantaneous (caller) for others, they will never be able to reach the freedom that just not caring will bring (shikyo).
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
January 08 2012 05:56 GMT
#2415
thx for labeling me because you know me so well
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
January 08 2012 05:58 GMT
#2416
Well, when you have this thread named after you...
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
Treadmill
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada2833 Posts
January 08 2012 06:19 GMT
#2417
On January 08 2012 14:58 Two_DoWn wrote:
Well, when you have this thread named after you...

I'm still not entirely sure why its "memorial" thread though. When did Shikyo die?
infinitestory
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4053 Posts
January 08 2012 06:22 GMT
#2418
On January 08 2012 14:15 Two_DoWn wrote:
can literally only play one hero

I immediately thought of TiensiNoAkuma when I read this
Translator:3
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
January 08 2012 06:22 GMT
#2419
On January 08 2012 15:19 Treadmill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2012 14:58 Two_DoWn wrote:
Well, when you have this thread named after you...

I'm still not entirely sure why its "memorial" thread though. When did Shikyo die?

Its because stadiums are always the "Memorial" stadium. Like that.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
Treadmill
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada2833 Posts
January 08 2012 06:29 GMT
#2420
On January 08 2012 15:22 Two_DoWn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2012 15:19 Treadmill wrote:
On January 08 2012 14:58 Two_DoWn wrote:
Well, when you have this thread named after you...

I'm still not entirely sure why its "memorial" thread though. When did Shikyo die?

Its because stadiums are always the "Memorial" stadium. Like that.

No no I understand. But if you're going to call it the "memorial" whatever you should at least figure out what its a memorial to. Most memorial stadiums are to people nobodies ever heard of but they're at least dead.
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