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On December 14 2011 16:15 FilmNoir wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2011 16:04 R04R wrote:
Perseverance was one of the weakest things in utility? I agree, it wasn't an amazing mastery but all they did was make the situation worse by removing the mana regen component, usually crucial on supports, and replaced it with health regen on a class who for the most part have heals. Edit: It's more of the principle that they're moving it away from helping supports with the masteries rather than toward.
perseverance's mana regen doesn't even match meditation's (note: tier 2 mastery) until 33 mp5, at which point if you still have mana issues you're doing something wrong
that shit was completely useless
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On the PBE:
Ninja Tabi
+30 Armor
UNIQUE Passive: Ignores Unit Collision
UNIQUE Passive: Enhanced Movement 2
Interesting....
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After spending 16 points in the utility tree you unlock the 5th tier with only 5 points left to spend. It should be an obvious choice to spend 3 points in Intelligence to get that sweet, sweet 6% CDR, almost crucial to all supports. That leaves you with 2 points left, and 1 is already preallocated to Mastermind. 1 point in perseverance or SoS is really not going to have that much effect on a support. If they had changed perseverance to something better than intelligence but still not support-centric, then maybe there would be something to fuss about.
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On December 14 2011 16:38 Requizen wrote:
On the PBE:
Ninja Tabi
+30 Armor
UNIQUE Passive: Ignores Unit Collision
UNIQUE Passive: Enhanced Movement 2
Interesting....
That sounds almost completely useless.
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Ahri really doesn't look that terrifying, her ratios are alright, but like people said it all comes down to particle speed and the mechanics of the foxes. If you can only reliable hit with one phase of her Q or if the foxes spread their damage too much then you end up hitting with .3 ratio, which is terrible.
She actually looks very odd, an assassin who specializes in not being able to target her damage and her R is actually far stronger vs 3+ targets?
Her passive is all about spellvamp yet she's supposed to charge around in crowds during teamfights with very low base health and no survivability and not get bursted down instantly? I don't really get it.
All her abilities are like orianna long range, but then she's just supposed to blitz in with a 450 range charge? Sounds very situational....im betting the ult CD is short and its a bit like kassadin. Have to wait and see.
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Guardsman stream featured, owh my god hotshot, all the moneyz where did they go?!
On December 14 2011 16:54 Juicyfruit wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2011 16:38 Requizen wrote:
On the PBE:
Ninja Tabi
+30 Armor
UNIQUE Passive: Ignores Unit Collision
UNIQUE Passive: Enhanced Movement 2
Interesting.... That sounds almost completely useless.
Getting 5 armour and ignoring unit collision for 12% dodge? That Trynda doesn't stand a ghost of a chance anymore in toplane.
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On December 14 2011 17:01 sob3k wrote:
Ahri really doesn't look that terrifying, her ratios are alright, but like people said it all comes down to particle speed and the mechanics of the foxes. If you can only reliable hit with one phase of her Q or if the foxes spread their damage too much then you end up hitting with .3 ratio, which is terrible.
She actually looks very odd, an assassin who specializes in not being able to target her damage and her R is actually far stronger vs 3+ targets?
Her passive is all about spellvamp yet she's supposed to charge around in crowds during teamfights with very low base health and no survivability and not get bursted down instantly? I don't really get it.
All her abilities are like orianna long range, but then she's just supposed to blitz in with a 450 range charge? Sounds very situational....im betting the ult CD is short and its a bit like kassadin. Have to wait and see.
I think she'll probably be a ridiculous laner but be less powerful in team fights compared to other assassins or mages. I mean, all of her spells aside from her ult are 800+ range. Have to wait and see though.
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Also curious about charm. Is it directed, is it a skillshot? Whats the misslespeed if its a skillshot?
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On December 14 2011 16:38 Requizen wrote:
On the PBE:
Ninja Tabi
+30 Armor
UNIQUE Passive: Ignores Unit Collision
UNIQUE Passive: Enhanced Movement 2
Interesting....
If by interesting you mean completely terrible then yes. It's very interesting. Instead of 12% damage reduction from autoattacks you get 5 more armor. Tabis are likely only to be seen on bruisers and junglers so basically you just gave 5 more armor to the guys who usually have ~200 armor anyways. lolololol
the ignore unit collision is nice, but ultimately worthless. hardly comparable to cc reduction. If this goes through with no other changes, then tabis will be in contention with swiftness as worst boots in the game!
On December 14 2011 17:41 ihasaKAROT wrote:
Also curious about charm. Is it directed, is it a skillshot? Whats the misslespeed if its a skillshot?
it sounds like a skillshot. IMO it sounds like a weak version of blitz hook. Instead of hooking them to you near-instantly, they walk to you over 2 seconds tops.
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On December 14 2011 16:00 FilmNoir wrote:
Why does Riot keep hitting the Utility tree with the nerf bat? It's already weaker comparatively than it was before the mastery change and yet they still removed perseverance for this strength of spirit bullshit. Considering no one other than supports really go that deep into the utility tree, why on earth would they change from 9% health/mana regen on squishy (for the most part), mana-dependent champions to health regen based on maximum mana, especially when most of the current supports have heals. I don't see strength of spirit being worth it ever, especially considering how far down the tree it is, in addition to the fact that they eliminated a crucial mana regen mastery and potentially weakened health regen (numbers dependent, haven't taken the time to work it all out).
Because they need it to be deep so that Singed can't take it since he usually takes 21 defense 
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So many Shen buffs, Shen new OP.
No seriously, weren't they going to buff Shen?
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Well in most cases dodge boots will at least still be 10x better than swifties =)
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On December 14 2011 17:58 -Kato- wrote:
So many Shen buffs, Shen new OP.
No seriously, weren't they going to buff Shen?
I don't remember that. Guinsoo said on his Twitter that they were going to buff his "favorite tank," and I think everyone just assumed that was Shen.
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Clearly his favourite tank was Lux, therefor the shield buff.
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Uhhhh....didn't he go "huehuehue" in that post, which meant that he was buffing morde?? (Riot still think morde is a tank cause low elo players play him as one lol)
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On December 14 2011 18:09 BlackPaladin wrote:
Uhhhh....didn't he go "huehuehue" in that post, which meant that he was buffing morde?? (Riot still think morde is a tank cause low elo players play him as one lol)
Morde es all. Morde es tank, es assassin, es support, es bruiser, es jungle, es ranged AD.
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Wait,so when are they going to refund IP for the dodge runes?
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This weekend, also the morde buff is pretty fucking worthless when you still don't get any shield.
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On December 14 2011 18:03 BlackPaladin wrote:
Well in most cases dodge boots will at least still be 10x better than swifties =)
'cept they won't give dodge anymore. they'll be ghost boots now.
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On December 14 2011 19:15 Ryuu314 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2011 18:03 BlackPaladin wrote:
Well in most cases dodge boots will at least still be 10x better than swifties =) 'cept they won't give dodge anymore. they'll be ghost boots now.
THEY LET YOU DODGE MINIONS. DODGE MINIONS= DODGE=DODGE BOOTS.
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