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- Neo, Dec. 15 2011, 6:33 KST

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barbsq
Profile Joined November 2009
United States5348 Posts
December 28 2011 05:22 GMT
#3801
On December 28 2011 12:29 Shiv. wrote:
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On December 28 2011 12:21 UniversalSnip wrote:
On December 28 2011 09:49 Shiv. wrote:
On December 28 2011 09:39 UniversalSnip wrote:
ive seen nat go ward/pots on janna as well

Haven't played soraka in a while but boots 2 wards sounds pretty good to me, you can do that with two points in the utility starting gold mastery

Are you still maining support?
How many GP/10 do you generally get on your supports, Utah? Really trying to pick up support at the moment because I feel a good support influences the game soooooo much, but I'm torn apart between spine saying anything after Philo is usually not worth it because you rarely get your 2nd GP/10 early enough (don't think he literally said, just how I interpret his posts) and any pro support player still getting 2-3 every game.


lololol. I'm not utah dude, I'm bad (1500s).

I hope people haven't been thinking I know what I'm talking about when I say shit, I'm really bad. I am not utahime haha.

My bad, I guess I'm just super confusing something. On a stupid sleep schedule atm due to university and it starts getting to me. Sorry man.


for future reference, Southlight = uta
Look at this guy, constantly diluting himself! (╮°-°)╮┳━┳ ( ╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17274 Posts
December 28 2011 05:24 GMT
#3802
Of course it would die when I have trolls to report.
twitch.tv/cratonz
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20254 Posts
December 28 2011 05:25 GMT
#3803
On December 28 2011 14:24 Craton wrote:
Of course it would die when I have trolls to report.


Yes very sad....had 2 people who gave up in my ranked game just now like 10 min in ~_~ just an awesome cap to a 1-4 ranked day lol.
Never Knows Best.
seppolevne
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada1681 Posts
December 28 2011 05:30 GMT
#3804
On December 28 2011 12:28 wei2coolman wrote:
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On December 28 2011 11:03 infinitestory wrote:
On December 28 2011 11:01 Requizen wrote:
On December 28 2011 10:45 Inschato wrote:
On December 28 2011 10:29 Shiv. wrote:
On December 28 2011 10:16 KaoReal wrote:
IIRC the rule for a game that you anticipate will last an average duration, (not 20 minute surrender, not 50 minutes long,) is to buy as many GP10 as you can until around 13 minutes, (exluding Avarice, of course.) This is the rule that I follow, anyway. It serves me well on Sona.

but realistically, how often will you even get a second GP10 until 13 minutes?

If you ever accidentally take first blood, which is the kill a support is most likely to accidentally get anyway since every shot counts at that point in the game.

Happens all too often as Taric with me. AD v AD fight going on, Dazzle flies across the screen and kills the enemy. I get blamed :\

Why would you get blamed for that? A support who gets a kill, sure that's one less kill for the carry, but it also means a much greater chance of getting aura items (shurelya, aegis) faster, which comes back to benefit the whole team. People act as if supports are a gold sink that has no return, which is totally bogus.

EDIT: Also, from my experience for the optimal time for a support to first back is when he has enough for a Philosopher's Stone + 2 wards, or 770 gold, and this usually happens between 8:00 and 9:00. Enough cash for Heart of Gold can be anywhere between 15:00 and 18:00 depending on the state of the lane. I occasionally get two gp10 before boots, but I almost always get two (unless I'm doing really poorly around that 18:00 mark). If I'm doing exceptionally AND my champion can make use of the AP well (soraka, sona mainly), I often opt for a Kage's Lucky Pick as well. I find that gp10 helps me maintain an actual cashflow for wards; maybe I'm just bad at money management.

But the returns on that gold invested into a support, is much less than if it were to go to a carry.

But the impact it has on the support is much greater. 300g (or like 150g vs assist) compared to what a support usually farms is >>> to 300g (150g) extra gold to a farming carry. Boots2/best friend sword 3-4 creeps faster is cool but a philo/hog 2-3 minutes faster = even MORE money. Maybe not enough to be worth it but not quite "much less".
J- Pirate Udyr WW T- Pirate Riven Galio M- Galio Annie S- Sona Lux -- Always farm, never carry.
LoCicero
Profile Joined August 2010
1100 Posts
December 28 2011 05:36 GMT
#3805
I love you all.
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
December 28 2011 05:38 GMT
#3806
On December 28 2011 14:36 LoCicero wrote:
I love you all.


Love you too man. Lots of homo.
Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
December 28 2011 05:52 GMT
#3807
Hey guys is there a reason why you always kill the big golem before you kill his lizards? Do you end up with more life at the end that way? Is it the same for wolves and weak golems?
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
Parnage
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States7414 Posts
December 28 2011 05:53 GMT
#3808
I don't love, but I feel that if I had to leave you with my wallet and phone you wouldn't go ruffling threw either and I may somehow find bloodthirsters added somehow.
-orb- Fan. Live the Nal_rA dream. || Yordles are cool.
atmospheric
Profile Joined April 2010
Austria49 Posts
December 28 2011 05:53 GMT
#3809
reach 1400elo
suddenly last pick every game
forced to play support
lose every game because top fails, mid fails and jungle fails
10 game losing streak
1200 elo again

wtf am I supposed to do?
Hynda
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Sweden2226 Posts
December 28 2011 05:54 GMT
#3810
On December 28 2011 14:53 atmospheric wrote:
reach 1400elo
suddenly last pick every game
forced to play support
lose every game because top fails, mid fails and jungle fails
10 game losing streak
1200 elo again

wtf am I supposed to do?

Dance the night away
Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-28 05:55:12
December 28 2011 05:54 GMT
#3811
On December 28 2011 14:52 obesechicken13 wrote:
Hey guys is there a reason why you always kill the big golem before you kill his lizards? Do you end up with more life at the end that way? Is it the same for wolves and weak golems?


Big golem is like 80% the damage of the camp. If he gets even one more hit on you, you're down a lot of health compared to lizards hitting you.

If you can kill lizards with incidental damage though, that's good
Porouscloud - NA LoL
OutlaW-
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic5053 Posts
December 28 2011 05:57 GMT
#3812
do you have any tips on how to carry myself from elo? i seem to be stuck at 1600... played about 20 games yesterday, won like 11 and lost 9 >.< so frustrating!
Delete your post underage b&. You're incestuous for you're onee-chan so you're clearly not a bad guy, but others might not agree
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
December 28 2011 06:02 GMT
#3813
On December 28 2011 14:57 OutlaW- wrote:
do you have any tips on how to carry myself from elo? i seem to be stuck at 1600... played about 20 games yesterday, won like 11 and lost 9 >.< so frustrating!

Ride your upswings, cut your downswings, last hit better and abuse OPs.

I just rode my downswing into 1600 myself!
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-28 06:04:07
December 28 2011 06:03 GMT
#3814
On December 28 2011 12:54 Jaso wrote:
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On December 28 2011 11:24 Shiv. wrote:
Just saw some guy solo dragon as lvl 4 Lee with just 2 Dorans and w/o smite. Finished it 4:45. What the actual fuck.


..how.. what.

Yeah, I know the guy you're talking about, I was PISSED when he did it because he A) didn't level 2 gank B) did it when it was warded and C) died doing it.

But it works, and it's great if they don't ward/you don't need a level 2 gank.
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
December 28 2011 07:34 GMT
#3815
To be fair 5hit, you have an irrational hatred of every jungle who doesnt carry a pink ward at all times.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
javy_
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1677 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-28 07:41:25
December 28 2011 07:38 GMT
#3816
OMGGGGGGGG saintvicious stream es #1, easily best music, someone who actually knows what electronic music is lol

did anyone see the last game with takashiX trolling with vayne and hotshotgg getting dunked on by brand
♪~( ̄。 ̄)
Zdrastochye
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
December 28 2011 07:47 GMT
#3817
On December 28 2011 16:38 javy925 wrote:
OMGGGGGGGG saintvicious stream es #1, easily best music, someone who actually knows what electronic music is lol

did anyone see the last game with takashiX trolling with vayne and hotshotgg getting dunked on by brand


Give up three barons, win the game anyways.
Hey! How you doin'?
Parnage
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States7414 Posts
December 28 2011 07:57 GMT
#3818
Brand R pretty good. As a Former WoW player I know anything with "Pyro" in it's name is going to be amazingly awesome if it works out as planned, but the first kill was some amusing hit R then combo with all the spells, after that brand just kind went crazy explody Pyroblastin madness. Loved it.

I am a growing supporter of this hit R and run at people meta. It seems to be a solid idea most times. If only Jungle kennen wasn't so darn slow..
-orb- Fan. Live the Nal_rA dream. || Yordles are cool.
Shifft
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada1085 Posts
December 28 2011 08:00 GMT
#3819
On December 28 2011 16:38 javy925 wrote:
OMGGGGGGGG saintvicious stream es #1, easily best music, someone who actually knows what electronic music is lol

did anyone see the last game with takashiX trolling with vayne and hotshotgg getting dunked on by brand


Saintvicious #1 streamer forever, glad other people are realizing this :D
=O
barbsq
Profile Joined November 2009
United States5348 Posts
December 28 2011 08:06 GMT
#3820
On December 28 2011 17:00 Shifft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2011 16:38 javy925 wrote:
OMGGGGGGGG saintvicious stream es #1, easily best music, someone who actually knows what electronic music is lol

did anyone see the last game with takashiX trolling with vayne and hotshotgg getting dunked on by brand


Saintvicious #1 streamer forever, glad other people are realizing this :D


i feel like i have 2 streamers perched on my shoulders. on the one side, i have the angel locicero whose manners and general awesomeness i have admired as long as i've known him (xcept when he plays drunk veigar, lol), and on the other i have the little devil saint, who brings out the troll in me. It's also kinda amusing that both represent my musical tastes in a similar fashion.
Look at this guy, constantly diluting himself! (╮°-°)╮┳━┳ ( ╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻
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