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On December 28 2011 12:21 UniversalSnip wrote:Show nested quote +On December 28 2011 09:49 Shiv. wrote:On December 28 2011 09:39 UniversalSnip wrote:
ive seen nat go ward/pots on janna as well
Haven't played soraka in a while but boots 2 wards sounds pretty good to me, you can do that with two points in the utility starting gold mastery Are you still maining support? How many GP/10 do you generally get on your supports, Utah? Really trying to pick up support at the moment because I feel a good support influences the game soooooo much, but I'm torn apart between spine saying anything after Philo is usually not worth it because you rarely get your 2nd GP/10 early enough (don't think he literally said, just how I interpret his posts) and any pro support player still getting 2-3 every game. lololol. I'm not utah dude, I'm bad (1500s). I hope people haven't been thinking I know what I'm talking about when I say shit, I'm really bad. I am not utahime haha.
My bad, I guess I'm just super confusing something. On a stupid sleep schedule atm due to university and it starts getting to me. Sorry man.
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On December 28 2011 12:05 Craton wrote:
Only need like one assist.
Nhat just got his HoG at around 11 minutes with 1 assist. He had to sell 2 wards, now neither has boots nor wards. I don't know, I'm really not a fan of that, but who am I to judge Nhat?
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This is really wierd, every time I play Taric I have one really good game where I am the awesome support every ranged ad wants (warding and everyhthing), and then if I try to play him again in the next 40ish hours, I completely fail.
Its the same thing with Jungle Maokai too, great one game then flop.
Could this just been cockiness carrying over from previous games?
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On December 28 2011 12:29 Shiv. wrote:
Nhat just got his HoG at around 11 minutes with 1 assist. He had to sell 2 wards, now neither has boots nor wards. I don't know, I'm really not a fan of that, but who am I to judge Nhat?
You'll cover the cost of 2 wards from just your gp10 in those two minutes. I often don't get boots till after my first two gp10 on Janna, but usually do on slower supports.
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On December 28 2011 12:35 57 Corvette wrote:
This is really wierd, every time I play Taric I have one really good game where I am the awesome support every ranged ad wants (warding and everyhthing), and then if I try to play him again in the next 40ish hours, I completely fail.
Its the same thing with Jungle Maokai too, great one game then flop.
Could this just been cockiness carrying over from previous games?
Happens to me all the fucking time >.> Especially when I decide to play a carry.
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On December 28 2011 12:28 wei2coolman wrote:Show nested quote +On December 28 2011 11:03 infinitestory wrote:On December 28 2011 11:01 Requizen wrote:On December 28 2011 10:45 Inschato wrote:On December 28 2011 10:29 Shiv. wrote:On December 28 2011 10:16 KaoReal wrote:
IIRC the rule for a game that you anticipate will last an average duration, (not 20 minute surrender, not 50 minutes long,) is to buy as many GP10 as you can until around 13 minutes, (exluding Avarice, of course.) This is the rule that I follow, anyway. It serves me well on Sona. but realistically, how often will you even get a second GP10 until 13 minutes? If you ever accidentally take first blood, which is the kill a support is most likely to accidentally get anyway since every shot counts at that point in the game. Happens all too often as Taric with me. AD v AD fight going on, Dazzle flies across the screen and kills the enemy. I get blamed :\ Why would you get blamed for that? A support who gets a kill, sure that's one less kill for the carry, but it also means a much greater chance of getting aura items (shurelya, aegis) faster, which comes back to benefit the whole team. People act as if supports are a gold sink that has no return, which is totally bogus. EDIT: Also, from my experience for the optimal time for a support to first back is when he has enough for a Philosopher's Stone + 2 wards, or 770 gold, and this usually happens between 8:00 and 9:00. Enough cash for Heart of Gold can be anywhere between 15:00 and 18:00 depending on the state of the lane. I occasionally get two gp10 before boots, but I almost always get two (unless I'm doing really poorly around that 18:00 mark). If I'm doing exceptionally AND my champion can make use of the AP well (soraka, sona mainly), I often opt for a Kage's Lucky Pick as well. I find that gp10 helps me maintain an actual cashflow for wards; maybe I'm just bad at money management. But the returns on that gold invested into a support, is much less than if it were to go to a carry.
if u dont go back because your support can heal you to full, this kill hasnt earned you any extra money. if the support heals you up then goes back while u take farm then he can invest in gp10 which will have half payed for itself before u even back, plus its not like gp10 items have no stats.
sure prob still better for the ad to get the kill but support getting kills allows him to do his job better too, support you.
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On December 28 2011 11:24 Shiv. wrote:
Just saw some guy solo dragon as lvl 4 Lee with just 2 Dorans and w/o smite. Finished it 4:45. What the actual fuck.
..how.. what.
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On December 28 2011 12:54 Jaso wrote:Show nested quote +On December 28 2011 11:24 Shiv. wrote:
Just saw some guy solo dragon as lvl 4 Lee with just 2 Dorans and w/o smite. Finished it 4:45. What the actual fuck. ..how.. what.
I'm pretty sure it's possible, the question is what runes he was running.
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full life steal runes + 2 dorans + masteries + lees w is like 30% life steal isnt it?
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I'm not too sure about that BT on Blitz... but then again, when I play champs like him or Mao I often end up with 5 items and wards, so FH/BV/boots/Shurelya's/Triforce cover it quite well. I can't remember what I build on Blitz instead of Shurelya's tho... probably some stuff with cdr, 100% uptime on W is so good.
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wtf
how do I get paired vs hotshot and TeddyRO in the middle 1800s
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Saintvicious: "The problem with Ahri is that she doesn't scale for horse shit"
Is this statement true?
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On December 28 2011 13:32 UniversalSnip wrote:
how bout you stream it
someone on network using too much bandwidth atm
On December 28 2011 13:38 Abenson wrote:
Saintvicious: "The problem with Ahri is that she doesn't scale for horse shit"
Is this statement true?
I doubt it. I ignore all things said by SV not related to junglers he actually plays.
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On December 28 2011 13:38 Abenson wrote:
Saintvicious: "The problem with Ahri is that she doesn't scale for horse shit"
Is this statement true?
Source might be a troll but the assessment is rather accurate. Ahri has a fun kit, which is why you see her so often this patch but her scaling (AP ratios, skill level scaling) is pretty horrendous compared to other AP mids.
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On December 28 2011 13:38 Abenson wrote:
Saintvicious: "The problem with Ahri is that she doesn't scale for horse shit"
Is this statement true?
Her Q is 0.33 per hit. So 0.66 total assuming you hit both. But the second hit is true damage, which means it's essentially double damage as soon as targets hit 100+ mr.
Her W is 0.38 per hit. Up to 0.76 on one target. Definitely on the weak side, but it has the added benefit of applying full item effects for each hit (ie Rylai slow/spellvamp). It's good in lane and for kiting mostly.
Her E is 0.35. Shit scaling, but it's basically a weaker version of blitz grab imo.
Her R is 0.3 per hit but can hit 3 times so 0.9. It's respectable.
Her AP ratios are on the low side, but I think it's okay seeing how mobile she is and how abusive she can be in certain lane matchups with her W.
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Anyone else having issues with NA server connection, or just me?
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It seems the servers have gone down like they did yesterday again.
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She's only mobile with her ult up.
Her AP scaling isn't bad but THAT does not = scales well. Look at leblanc. She has great AP scaling but she scales terribly into lategame because of the difference between being able to kite 1 person or kill them 1v1 vs a real 5v5 teamfight.
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Server is down for me as well.
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Time to go to the consoles! Awayyyyyyy!
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