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Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17303 Posts
December 23 2011 07:51 GMT
#3161
I've liked one champ in the last 8 months.
twitch.tv/cratonz
Cloud
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Sexico5880 Posts
December 23 2011 07:55 GMT
#3162
I laugh every time someone picks brand after i have picked ahri, it happens pretty often too. Pretty easy matchup for ahri imo. Ahri out-harasses brand early because of her range and is more mana efficient when it comes to pushing the wave. After level 6 unless she is dumb and blinks right into your face she becomes impossible to kill. My advice would be, try to harass with e for the first few levels while keeping in mind her orb and maxing w, afterwards ask your jungler for blue and just clear waves and hug turret/gank other lanes.
BlueLaguna on West, msg for game.
wussleeQ
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States3130 Posts
December 23 2011 08:08 GMT
#3163
lol. server fails right at my birthday in my time. happy birthday to me D:
BW -> League -> CSGO
ControlMonkey
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia3109 Posts
December 23 2011 08:14 GMT
#3164
Glad its not just me then.
RogerX
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
New Zealand3180 Posts
December 23 2011 08:14 GMT
#3165
Happy birthday! Hope you win lots of ranked!

Most of my team Brand picks are fails, they can't aim.
Stick it up. take it up. step aside and see the world
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-23 08:35:28
December 23 2011 08:18 GMT
#3166
On December 23 2011 12:20 0123456789 wrote:
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On December 23 2011 12:12 57 Corvette wrote:
Its funny, teams would rather focus the 3/3 Xin than a 14/0 Gragas..

If I get more opponents like this, maybe I can make it back to 1200 elo.

I also have a rule for playing league. Each night when I go online, I play until i have either 3 wins or 3 losses. Min 3 games, max 5. After three wins i don't want to risk ruining my good mood, and after 3 losses i don't want to play any more anyways.


Oh... interesting. So this is how people who want to stay mediocre think. Go for the wins/good feeling rather than playing to get better regardless of elo.

This goes for people who only normals too.

Imagine that, people having a life and just playing a GAME for their enjoyment instead of having to be the best at everything.
When you go out for a ride do you aim to be the fastest driver and pass everyone aswell, gotta be the best you know.
On December 23 2011 16:55 Cloud wrote:
I laugh every time someone picks brand after i have picked ahri, it happens pretty often too. Pretty easy matchup for ahri imo. Ahri out-harasses brand early because of her range and is more mana efficient when it comes to pushing the wave. After level 6 unless she is dumb and blinks right into your face she becomes impossible to kill. My advice would be, try to harass with e for the first few levels while keeping in mind her orb and maxing w, afterwards ask your jungler for blue and just clear waves and hug turret/gank other lanes.

Even more fun when people pick xerath against ahri, you can literally dash out of his entire ult.
What the hell do you do if you're top and the enemy jungler literally camps top after they do blue/wolves, just sit under turret and miss out on 3waves of minions?
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
December 23 2011 08:33 GMT
#3167
Xerath is one of the matchups I feel actually IS a counterpick to Ahri though... it doesn't matter if you can dodge ult, if he hits you with one stun you're completely done.
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
daemir
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland8662 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-23 08:35:43
December 23 2011 08:34 GMT
#3168
On December 23 2011 16:45 Synystyr wrote:
Loooool xD



rooofl, so who is worse at that, elementz or hsgg? not dat easy as it looks!

and holy crap I wanna watch the drunk state of the league, but they ain't uploading it on the youtube chan or I'm blind
holdthephone
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States523 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-23 08:39:16
December 23 2011 08:35 GMT
#3169
What is the Ahri build that's been agreed upon? She has horrendous AP ratios so I don't understand the dorans ring stacking at all (she has no mana problems either), much less getting a deathcap . I agree on RoA and Rylais, those at least make more sense.

Been playing around with AP/attackSpeed builds that have working out very well. Only reason I tried it was because I noticed her attack animation is incredibly clean (so attack speed is very effective), and going heavy AP only effected her damage output marginally given all the gold your spending. It's nothing more than a theory build right now, but my lane presence in mid has been utterly demonic.

A lot of other stuff I'd like to try as well. I feel like Abyssal Scepter would be invaluable for her, considering her constant presence in team fights.

--

lol that ali combo is difficult for people? god only knows if they tried to play street fighter.
Cloud
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Sexico5880 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-23 08:48:49
December 23 2011 08:40 GMT
#3170
Xerath is a little complicated, he can get to a point where he can just farm from turret range and his harass early game is pretty strong. If you don't get outharassed by xerath early though, you shouldnt have problems outcsing him at the very least. Dodging his entire 4 skillshots is freaking awesome too.

As for the build I've been going (I have over 40 games with ahri in ranked so i know a bit of what im talking about)

boots and 3 pots into 2 drings as the standard build. With 2 drings you dont need blue for laning unless you wanna completely rape the other guy or you wanna go roaming.

2nd boots are cdr boots for mid lane and sorc boots vs bruisers. Going sorc boots makes no sense when you're maxing q imo, because of the true damage.

Then i usually get deathcap into morello's, throw in a giants belt somewhere in between if you have problems vs leblanc. throw in a revolver in between if you have problems vs people like ryze/vlad. Rylai's into wota which is xpecial's build sucks ass imo because you do no damage and you dont need to be so tanky since its incredibly hard to kill you if you play well because of your range and your ult. Rylais can be gotten as 3rd or 4th item, wota as last item for really late game.

Her ap ratios are actually quite good if you consider how many times each of her spells hit.

Usually for mid skill order is qeqw and r>q>e>w. Need to be flexible vs some champs, like for ryze ill completely forget about w until later.

Anyway this is just how i play her in mid 1500's

I might make an actual guide if i can get her to carry me to high 1600's (so far ive gotten from 1400 to ~1550 playing mostly ahri)
BlueLaguna on West, msg for game.
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
December 23 2011 08:57 GMT
#3171
I've gotten ~600 riot points out of the blue, anyone else?
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
FR4CT4L
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia697 Posts
December 23 2011 08:59 GMT
#3172
On December 23 2011 17:34 daemir wrote:

and holy crap I wanna watch the drunk state of the league, but they ain't uploading it on the youtube chan or I'm blind


Here you go http://www.own3d.tv/StateoftheLeague#/watch/348677
Veni, vidi, vici!
daemir
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland8662 Posts
December 23 2011 09:05 GMT
#3173
Thanks dude
RogerX
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
New Zealand3180 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-23 09:07:23
December 23 2011 09:07 GMT
#3174
On December 23 2011 17:57 JackDino wrote:
I've gotten ~600 riot points out of the blue, anyone else?

Yush.
Stick it up. take it up. step aside and see the world
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
December 23 2011 09:12 GMT
#3175
On December 23 2011 17:35 holdthephone wrote:
What is the Ahri build that's been agreed upon? She has horrendous AP ratios so I don't understand the dorans ring stacking at all (she has no mana problems either), much less getting a deathcap . I agree on RoA and Rylais, those at least make more sense.

Been playing around with AP/attackSpeed builds that have working out very well. Only reason I tried it was because I noticed her attack animation is incredibly clean (so attack speed is very effective), and going heavy AP only effected her damage output marginally given all the gold your spending. It's nothing more than a theory build right now, but my lane presence in mid has been utterly demonic.

A lot of other stuff I'd like to try as well. I feel like Abyssal Scepter would be invaluable for her, considering her constant presence in team fights.

--

lol that ali combo is difficult for people? god only knows if they tried to play street fighter.

Her ratios aren't amazing, but they're not terrible either. It seems deceptively low. Her ratios aren't as bad as they may seem. Her Q is 0.64 if you hit both times and the second hit is technically a bit more than 0.32 since it's true damage. Once people hit 100+ mres true damage is roughly double that of magic. You should be able to hit at least 2 out of 3 of your W procs, which combines for 0.67 AP ratio, which is comparable as other champs have generally 0.7. Hit all 3 and it's 0.76. Ahri's E is pretty crappy ratio but that's mostly used for CC. Her ult hits 3 times so it's actually 0.9.

Drings are good also because of the hp gain. It's just too efficient to pass up. Deathcap is also good as it's the best source of damage increase. Rylais is pretty core as Rylais+W is infinite kiting against melees and Ahri needs the hp. Void staff is a no brainer and I personally like Lichbane since you'll be in auto-attack range most of the time anyways and the lichbane proc is really good. Abyssal and Zhonyas are good defensive options for late game.
Owned Noob
Profile Joined April 2010
United States731 Posts
December 23 2011 09:28 GMT
#3176
On December 23 2011 18:12 Ryuu314 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2011 17:35 holdthephone wrote:
What is the Ahri build that's been agreed upon? She has horrendous AP ratios so I don't understand the dorans ring stacking at all (she has no mana problems either), much less getting a deathcap . I agree on RoA and Rylais, those at least make more sense.

Been playing around with AP/attackSpeed builds that have working out very well. Only reason I tried it was because I noticed her attack animation is incredibly clean (so attack speed is very effective), and going heavy AP only effected her damage output marginally given all the gold your spending. It's nothing more than a theory build right now, but my lane presence in mid has been utterly demonic.

A lot of other stuff I'd like to try as well. I feel like Abyssal Scepter would be invaluable for her, considering her constant presence in team fights.

--

lol that ali combo is difficult for people? god only knows if they tried to play street fighter.

Her ratios aren't amazing, but they're not terrible either. It seems deceptively low. Her ratios aren't as bad as they may seem. Her Q is 0.64 if you hit both times and the second hit is technically a bit more than 0.32 since it's true damage. Once people hit 100+ mres true damage is roughly double that of magic. You should be able to hit at least 2 out of 3 of your W procs, which combines for 0.67 AP ratio, which is comparable as other champs have generally 0.7. Hit all 3 and it's 0.76. Ahri's E is pretty crappy ratio but that's mostly used for CC. Her ult hits 3 times so it's actually 0.9.

Drings are good also because of the hp gain. It's just too efficient to pass up. Deathcap is also good as it's the best source of damage increase. Rylais is pretty core as Rylais+W is infinite kiting against melees and Ahri needs the hp. Void staff is a no brainer and I personally like Lichbane since you'll be in auto-attack range most of the time anyways and the lichbane proc is really good. Abyssal and Zhonyas are good defensive options for late game.


when i play ahri (1800~ elo) i always go 2~3 dorans, sorcs, and dcap. the dorans really help in laning cuz you wont go oom and the dcap is because it gives so much dmg and you dont need the cc from rylais if you just kill them. however, i typically follow up dcap with rylais to be more tanky and a wota for sustain and the ability to 1v1 anyone on their team. void staff for when they get mr, and zhonyas/ga for last tank item. i dont really like the rylais and wota before deathcap thing xpecial does because i just feel really weak during midgame, which is her strongest point
jaedong the man with the huge dong
mr_tolkien
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France8631 Posts
December 23 2011 09:40 GMT
#3177
I LOVE Warwick \o/

http://fr.twitch.tv/mr_tolkien/b/303397761
The legend of Darien lives on
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-23 10:38:45
December 23 2011 09:49 GMT
#3178
Ok... that was REALLY funny. Really good clip.
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
-Kato-
Profile Joined June 2010
Spain1146 Posts
December 23 2011 10:33 GMT
#3179
The most delayed penta in the history of LoL!

Also amazing micro in that fight xD!
R04R
Profile Joined March 2009
United States1631 Posts
December 23 2011 11:02 GMT
#3180
45 minute 4v5 WIN with Bly and Craton
Pretty entertaining game to watch. GGs
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